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billvon

>The threat of dying in a hook turn accident is completely mitigated by consciously not
> performing them.

Given that I've had two friends killed by a hook turn that they were not performing, that's not a great example. But I will grant that it is _almost_ completely mitigated by not performing them.

If they're the two I'm thinking of, they weren't killed by the hook turn, they were killed from collision with jumpers performing them. A different issue.

airdvr

******Let's use a real simple one...the AAD. I'll bet at this point in time a majority of up jumpers wouldn't make a jump without one. Yet everyone knows the actual threat of being knocked unconscious or being unable to deploy your reserve on any given jump is miniscule.

Sure, sure...I understand about using every available means to be safe, but is jumping without an AAD that much more unsafe than jumping with one?

Yours is a poor argument because a number of other threats you have more control over.

The threat of dying in a hook turn accident is completely mitigated by consciously not performing them.

However, there is no other threat mitigation a jumper himself can take when it comes to instances of him being rendered unable to pull (or otherwise becoming unaware). While the AAD is no guarantee of a successful outcome, I've seen an unreasonable number of people's lives saved by AADs. If they hadn't had them, they would have certainly have cratered.

You can find videos on YouTube of this happening all day long.

Not debating their effectiveness. Refusing to make a jump without one (not a long term series of jumps) is a perceived threat that jumping without an AAD is dangerous.

If you have control over something then it's not a threat at all.

You may have control over "A" thing in a situation. You'll almost never have control over everything in a situation.

You can only mitigate risk.

You can do everything right and still die.

airdvr

Let's use a real simple one...the AAD. I'll bet at this point in time a majority of up jumpers wouldn't make a jump without one. Yet everyone knows the actual threat of being knocked unconscious or being unable to deploy your reserve on any given jump is miniscule.

Sure, sure...I understand about using every available means to be safe, but is jumping without an AAD that much more unsafe than jumping with one?

Yours is a poor argument because a number of other threats you have more control over.

The threat of dying in a hook turn accident is completely mitigated by consciously not performing them.

However, there is no other threat mitigation a jumper himself can take when it comes to instances of him being rendered unable to pull (or otherwise becoming unaware). While the AAD is no guarantee of a successful outcome, I've seen an unreasonable number of people's lives saved by AADs. If they hadn't had them, they would have certainly have cratered.

You can find videos on YouTube of this happening all day long.

Circling back to Trump being evil, we should have mitigated that risk back in November. Now we have to jump through hoops to make sure he doesn't kill us all.

While the odds are not as high as playing Russian roulette, the world-wide risk is FAR greater when you consider the number of people potentially involved and the potential consequences.

fasted3

I think it is evil to hate someone so bad that you want to kill them, when you don't even know them.

Which BTW is precisely what Trump is doing in a number of cases. You do realize that; yes?

Phil1111

Melania Trump mocked online after anti-bullying speech

Because it rings pretty f'in' hollow when you consider who she's married to and what he does in cyberspace.

If she was really concerned about cyber-bullying, she'd make Donnie (and her own children) stop.

It was a ridiculous thing for her to even attempt to address. The people around her should have advised her to not even try it. Obviously, she has no clue.

rushmc

what harm?

Throwing literally millions of people's lives into chaos for a questionable political gain?

Yeah, sure, what harm is there in telling a little girl she and her family may be broken apart.

/eyeroll

Yeah, what harm is there is making parents literally fear for the lives of their children because healthcare may be denied to them?

What harm is there in promoting violence against journalists?

What harm is there in denying rights to people just because they want to practice a different religion, or have different color skin, or love a different person than you would have?

Geebus H. Fucking Keyrist.

yoink

Hitler was evil. That's my yardstick.

Trump isn't there yet.

Two children are on a playground. One comes from a family of millionaires and another lives in poverty. The rich kid, who can afford all the candy he wants, takes the single piece of candy the impoverished kid has, further, he sells it to a third kid for above market value.

I dunno, to me that's pretty fuckin' evil.

yoink

I don't think so.

I think evil is enjoying the deliberate harm you're doing.

I'd say not caring about the harm you're doing is pretty fuckin' evil.

This is my problem with Ayn Rand's philosophy.

Not just evil; chaotic evil.

1. There is no such thing as "earthquake weather."
2. A cluster of minor earthquakes is -way- better than a great big one. They relive stress. That's a good thing (presumably).

Dr. Lucy Jones is kind of the go to person for earthquake spokesperson. I subscribe to her on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/DrLucyJones

If there is anything happening anywhere in the seismology world that is significant, she'll be talking about it.

Will almost certainly change again once Trump has been impeached.

Skwrl

Jebadiah Kerman would be a huge improvement...

Clearly a badass, but smiles a bit too much in the face of imminent and certain doom for me. Why not Val?

billvon

I understand that NASA is considering Kerbal as part of their CST program along with Blue Origin and SpaceX. They have a much faster development and certification cycle than any of the legacy IRL programs.

I've been meaning to ask you, do you have L playing it yet?

Yep. Except when you make it with KSP parts, it doesn't really look like the real thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_IV_Heavy

This is the guy about to be in charge of NASA.

I hope to hell his staff learns something about sourcing images. Scroll down a bit and see the image from June 26? That's from the video game Kerbal Space Program.

https://bridenstine.house.gov/space/default.aspx?Page=3

Phil1111

I watched about 10 seconds, as far as Bannon representing that "Republicans are trying to nullify the election".

trump ain't a republican. Never has been, never will be.

This is nonsense. While, like any good con-man Trump sways with the wind, but he has identified as Republican in the past and been accepted as such. I'll admit he's also self-identified as "Independent" and "Democratic" before as well and has been accepted as those as well.

However, you'll notice at no other time did a party accept him so much as to run him (actively too and without a floor vote [Priebus]). He identifies as Republican and the Republican leadership accepted that enough to unquestionably nominate him to represent them.

I dunno, man. Where I come from, you break it, you bought it. You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.

You -can't- now say he's not a Republican.

ryoder

***The other thing about signing up on their web site to notify you if you are affected . . . in signing up you have to agree to arbitration to settle any matters which may be a result of this.

It seems they have changed the terms: http://thehill.com/policy/technology/349826-users-checking-to-see-if-they-were-affected-by-the-equifax-hack-might-be

Yep. Companies can always be counted on to "do the right thing" after being contacted by lawyers and Congressmen telling them what they're doing is complete and utter bullshit not allowed under the law.

pterodactyl1986

******Well it seems he did, perhaps not in the traditional and religious sense.

“I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist. … I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being,” the scientist wrote, AP reported.

Reread what he's talking about. Does that sound like a man who believes in a being that created the universe or . . . a guy who's talking about "god" in a purely metaphorical sense?

I've read about him quite a bit over the years, as I said he does not believe in god in a traditional sense. You may not even call it God or a higher power,depending on your interpretation. But it is very clear that he believes in some sort of governing force in the universe

Yes. Physics.

The other thing about signing up on their web site to notify you if you are affected . . . in signing up you have to agree to arbitration to settle any matters which may be a result of this.

FUCK THESE GUYS.

Why isn't there a "death penalty" for corporations?

BIGUN

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Equifax said Thursday that it was alerting those who were affected by mail. It also set up a website, equifaxsecurity2017.com,

Wasn't it a website vulnerability that started all this, ya mopes. Now you want us to logon to another website you developed to see if we were affected?!??!??!

Exactly.

I really don't understand the ridiculous nature of their web site, their security oversight, all of it. It's bullshit.

I HATE large companies and their cavalier attitude toward these massive databases. Yet, I guarantee there will be no governmental action to ensure this doesn't happen again.

Fuck these guys.

pterodactyl1986

Well it seems he did, perhaps not in the traditional and religious sense.

“I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist. … I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being,” the scientist wrote, AP reported.

Reread what he's talking about. Does that sound like a man who believes in a being that created the universe or . . . a guy who's talking about "god" in a purely metaphorical sense?

gowlerk

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How much do you know about statistics and specifically random chance?

Uhh.... Don't confuse God's plan with random chance. Even Einstein knew that She does not play dice with the universe.

I really wish Einstein had lived at a time where he didn't have to invoke "god" to make a point. I can't believe for a second Einstein actually believed in "god." I do believe he only invoked "god" to make points and make himself somewhat more emotionally acceptable.

How much do you know about statistics and specifically random chance?

Random events specifically do NOT happen at regular intervals (otherwise they would not be random). With that in mind, there will be streaks of non-events and streaks of events which are bunched closer together. It specifically won't be smooth, but lumpy.

We see this same sort of thing in the deaths of celebrities or skydivers.

The eclipse has nothing to do with it.

Eagleeye

Does this result in engine damage?

Maybe yes, maybe no, but the percentages are high enough that you absolutely want to tear down the engine to check every part.

gowlerk

Is Texas a red state? I've heard that God loves red states.

I heard God punishes homosexuals by sending hurricanes to their state.

I wonder how Osteen feels about that today?

Oh, who am I kidding? He's still probably fine with it.