ChasingBlueSky

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  1. You know what the problem is with trying to derive something from violent crimes, they are all far too situational. Sure, there are patterns related to the category a crime falls into but if there was a solid verifiable answer to guns and crimes 100% of the time there would be no more arguments on the right course of action. But to think you like you do? It must really suck to live in that much fear. I won't ever need one and it's nothing like needing a reserve. You complain about others making wild comparisons and yet here you go. I'm sure the big "what if you happen to be in a situation where...." question will be tossed out soon. Here is my answer: I won't need a gun. You won't ever understand that, so I won't bother explaining the subtle nuances of what that means and how it causes you to live your life. From where I'm sitting I'm more concerned about the damage people do with their mouth on a daily basis more than anything else. Lies, fear, mis truths, rumors, etc are far more damaging and can/do have a greater impact on the moments of the life I live. To sit around and worry about factors that will impact me outside my level of control? No thanks. If it happens, it happens and if that means it's the end of me, oh well. At least I would have lived a good life up to that point. Oh ya, I will discount the NRA as much as I discount the antithesis of it whatever it may be. Propaganda machines may use facts but they are spun. Neutral sources are a far better option. Downwardspiral has made the effort several times to list sites like that and I've openly considered what the topic was. But I do find it ironic the argument you make after you have repeatedly pushed aside news sites as fact sources because you considered them liberal. Well, that is until they publish a story that fits your agenda. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  2. CNN, Drudge and FoxNews covered it several times this afternoon. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  3. I'm fairly certain the OP is now trolling. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  4. Almost never != never It has everything to do with how people react to you and your gun posts. It's a bit cliche at this point. After all these years of stating the same stuff over and over, you have missed my point and you prefer to call me blind because I disagree with you on a few things. Here is something I've said to you a few times: I support the 2nd, I have a FOID, I don't want to ban guns, I don't want to own a gun, I like to go to the range for target practice and clay pigeons, and I know I will never need one in my daily life. I've pointed out countless times to you that I don't fall under any label and that I've gone out of my way to educate myself and try to understand the point of view on both sides. You, however, don't want a conversation, you want to tell people how to think and categorize them into some anti-gun stereotype you hold on to if they don't categorically agree. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  5. I hate it when simple things like proof, court verdicts and documentation get in the way of illformed options. It makes life so much harder to deal with. Keep on keeping on! _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  6. Oh the delicious irony. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  7. Clearly not being covered. http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Inauguration/story?id=6665946&page=1 _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  8. Either can be controlled? One is a better solution than the other? Which will be more accepted? To be rather blunt the best way to handle this is to educate the young and wait until the ignorant die and they are phased out of influence. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  9. I live in one of those places and know the risk. In fact I've called the cops on a neighbor three times last year for such reasons, including random violence to someone else in my neighborhood and shooting off a handgun (can't own them here). Still, I have no fear, but I'm educated and know how to act and feel no need to arm myself. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  10. Just on my own life experience, I could see how that could trend out in a study. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  11. I'd rather educate myself to avoid either situation and not live in fear at the randomness of life. I'll live a happy and full life up until that day with no regrets. Somewhere along the way you are going to die and I don't want that one moment to be the measure of my life. Idealistic? Sure, but it's worked for me so far and 8 years of fear haven't changed that, nor will some random newclippings used to propagate more fear. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  12. Comedy. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  13. Nothing in my original message here came from the NRA. Not the Brady Campaign ranking, not the gun ownership rate, nor the murder stats. Once again, this just goes to show that you are only seeing what you want to see. You have to keep making up excuses to deny the truth. What I see is you and your post history. It's blinding. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  14. Go back and read what I said again. I didn't say that kallend's posts weren't intelligent. I accused him of side-tracking and game-playing. I'm saying that our intelligent conversations here can stay more focused on the actual subject. I actually changed my wording from my original in order to try and keep someone from interpreting it as you did. But it just goes to show, that some people will see what they want to see, no matter what. Some people are more interested in personal attacks, then in actually discussing the subject. More than happy to hear about it if I could get 100% of the numbers from a non-NRA source and non-antigun source and make my own choices. However, whenever I see blatant spinning from either, I go deaf to what they have to say. I've yet to see any topic related to guns on this board that isn't spin, a lecture, anecdotal or anything else. Nor do I ever expect anything more. This is why I find these threads laughable as I go elsewhere for something more intelligent. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  15. Are you among those who say Bush has eroded our Constitution? If so, what has he removed from it? ...gently glances over at the 4th Amendment.... _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  16. Indeed, but at least we are finally headed in that direction. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  17. Yep. Anyone who was paying attention understood that. Not FoxNews. They just posed that question. It's good that their political correspondents understand little things like the Constitution _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  18. People will misunderestimate him and it will define his presidency. One has to think that is part of his strategery and I'm sure he will claim mission accomplished soon. I don't believe, he's egotistical enough. That man has a helluva mess to clean-up before he can ever say 'mission accomplished. He might yell 'calf-rope' before he says 'mission accomplished'. Chuck There needs to be a tongue in cheek emote on this board, or the ability to add personalized emotes. This one would have looked like GW to get my point across. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  19. The freepers were all over it in a few seconds. Idiots are often very predictable. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  20. The idiot has left the building. The nightmare is over, the USA as we know it can get back on track now. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  21. What does that mean? Educate people with all the facts and allow them to make their own decision. You might be surprised at the result. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  22. Once you start posting every crime that is committed by a crime I'll start listening to you. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  23. People will misunderestimate him and it will define his presidency. One has to think that is part of his strategery and I'm sure he will claim mission accomplished soon. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  24. Did Bush fund raise for his? _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....
  25. So why is it different? You will not answer even though I think you know! And, I never said the cost was good or bad. YOU are making that assumption ( I assume) I only want to know why it is different for Obama this time around. (and you say we look silly) It's not? If he ends up spending big on this, I will complain. But from what I have read nearly $50m has been raised for the event and more will be raised tonight and tomorrow. Depending on the slant of the news source I've seen estimates from $50m to $400m. So, the fact is that fund raising has been happening to take care of the cost, it's just the "experts" coming up with all sorts of estimates. _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again.....