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It certainly is a right...unless you've given up that right somehow. Yes, there is indeed a Right to Drive "safely". However, if you learn what the legal definition of 'driver' and 'motor vehicle' are, you can see that licensing is not required for most travelers. "The streets belong to the public and are primarily for the use of the public in the ordinary way." — Packard v. Banton, 264 U.S. 140 (1924) – http://laws.findlaw.com/us/264/140.html#144 What is the "ordinary way" we use our public highways for personal travel today? Driving the automobile, of course. A hundred years ago, the "ordinary way" would have been the horse and buggy, and nobody would have even attempted to deny that Right. Yet, today, through deceptive court rulings, our Right of Locomotion ordinarily used for personal travel on our public highways is routinely being violated by every state. And, in further support of our Right to Drive the ordinary Locomotion of the day on our public highways, there is the following court ruling. Note it’s use of the word "ordinarily", meaning the Right of Locomotion ordinarily used: "Undoubtedly the right of locomotion, the right to remove from one place to another according to inclination, is an attribute of personal liberty, and the right, ordinarily, of free transit from or through the territory of any state is a right secured by the 14th Amendment and by other provisions of the Constitution." – Williams v. Fears, 179 U.S. 270 (1900) – http://laws.findlaw.com/us/179/270.html#274 And then, in very explicit terms, our Right to Drive Automobiles is recognized by this court: "The right of a citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, by horse-drawn carriage, wagon, or automobile is not a mere privilege which may be permitted or prohibited at will, but a common right which he has under his right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Slusher v. Safety Coach Transit Co., 229 Ky 731, 17 SW2d 1012, and affirmed by the Supreme Court in Thompson v. Smith 154 S.E. 579. Driver Licensing is based on the presumption that we somehow owe it to society to demonstrate that we are unlikely harm any others in the process of Driving. But, the following court ruling clearly states that we inherently OWE NOTHING. "[The Individual] owes nothing to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights." — Hale vs. Hinkel, 201 US 43, 74-75 – http://laws.findlaw.com/us/201/43.html#74 Furthermore, Driver Licensing serves no purpose to highway safety that laws against endangerment didn’t already serve. Read more on this issue at: http://proffsl.110mb.com/driver_licensing.php References : Packard v. Banton, 264 U.S. 140 (1924) – http://laws.findlaw.com/us/264/140.html#144 Williams v. Fears, 179 U.S. 270 (1900) – http://laws.findlaw.com/us/179/270.html#274 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

I do not agree that your stament is correct, based on my research. Yes, there is indeed a Right to Drive "safely". "The streets belong to the public and are primarily for the use of the public in the ordinary way." — Packard v. Banton, 264 U.S. 140 (1924) – http://laws.findlaw.com/us/264/140.html#144 What is the "ordinary way" we use our public highways for personal travel today? Driving the automobile, of course. A hundred years ago, the "ordinary way" would have been the horse and buggy, and nobody would have even attempted to deny that Right. Yet, today, through deceptive court rulings, our Right of Locomotion ordinarily used for personal travel on our public highways is routinely being violated by every state. And, in further support of our Right to Drive the ordinary Locomotion of the day on our public highways, there is the following court ruling. Note it’s use of the word "ordinarily", meaning the Right of Locomotion ordinarily used: "Undoubtedly the right of locomotion, the right to remove from one place to another according to inclination, is an attribute of personal liberty, and the right, ordinarily, of free transit from or through the territory of any state is a right secured by the 14th Amendment and by other provisions of the Constitution." – Williams v. Fears, 179 U.S. 270 (1900) – http://laws.findlaw.com/us/179/270.html#274 And then, in very explicit terms, our Right to Drive Automobiles is recognized by this court: "The right of a citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, by horse-drawn carriage, wagon, or automobile is not a mere privilege which may be permitted or prohibited at will, but a common right which he has under his right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Slusher v. Safety Coach Transit Co., 229 Ky 731, 17 SW2d 1012, and affirmed by the Supreme Court in Thompson v. Smith 154 S.E. 579. Driver Licensing is based on the presumption that we somehow owe it to society to demonstrate that we are unlikely harm any others in the process of Driving. But, the following court ruling clearly states that we inherently OWE NOTHING. "[The Individual] owes nothing to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights." — Hale vs. Hinkel, 201 US 43, 74-75 – http://laws.findlaw.com/us/201/43.html#74 Furthermore, Driver Licensing serves no purpose to highway safety that laws against endangerment didn’t already serve. Read more on this issue at: http://proffsl.110mb.com/driver_licensing.php References : Packard v. Banton, 264 U.S. 140 (1924) – http://laws.findlaw.com/us/264/140.html#144 Williams v. Fears, 179 U.S. 270 (1900) – http://laws.findlaw.com/us/179/270.html#274 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

Oh, you thought they meant that 14th, when they really meant the other 14th. This link describes the difference between the two, and the problem with the current 14th. http://www.deprogram.us/enter/ It's presented in the style of The Matrix, so it's entertaining, as well as eye opening. HTH 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

I dunno...it's some asshole. 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

Didn't Lee ?????? (can't remember his last name right now) go in on a naked jump in 95-96 back East somewhere? He was a crazy old bastard in his 70's, who damn near died when I took him on his only 'A' BASE jump in Lower Alabama, 1994. Lee jumped at Bridge Day 1993, then invited me to MB for a building jump in November, where I qualified for my number...359 A year or so later, after I moved to Colorado, I heard he died...on what I swear was a naked jump. Anyone help? 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

Hey Nick, Based on real world experience... You could take Nina's tanks to your local automobile raditaor shop, and have them boiled out in the hot tank. That will remove all traces of rust, or anything else for that matter, from the interior of the tank. Then the rad shop can seal the interior of the tank with an epoxy that will still be there long after you and I have both crossed over to the other side. (And I'm gonna live another 40 years) Next project. HTH 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

Sorry Bro. You seem to have had much more than your share of this type of sorrow lately. Hang in there buddy. 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

That was mighty funny Nick! But, I gotta give the kid some props for trying that on a bike with a foot clutch! If he had let the guys in front hold him up, he could have kept his left foot on the peg, and not looked quite so...lame. 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

I have a 1981 KZ1100B1 drag bike with a conversion rigid frame and 7 inch slick...capable of 9's/150mph in the quarter mile. I also have a 1983 KZ1100GPz complete parts bike. (Once the world's fastest stock street bike) If you need any torque specs or such before you get your books, PM me and I'll see what I can find for you. 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

WOW! Gits don't mess around, do she? Congrats! 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

You can't get out of being called up, but you can get out of serving...if you choose to. While being interviewed, make sure to let yourself be heard saying..."Fuck the Police...Fuck these GD lawyers...and fuck all these GD judges" C ya! 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

Don't ask me why, but quite often, Dells don't want to work properly without the "Dell Quickset" utility installed. HTH 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

Geez Jim, that is a terrifying story from the old days. A Unit, eh? Brrrr...gives me chills just to think about it! 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

When the search page you psoted opened, I had already visited the first three pages of links, without finding a suitable solution. Thanks...I guess. 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

Does there exist a free, or low cost service that provides Gold price/spike by SMS? TIA 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

Just barely! It helped that I was watching the latest episode, so I could tell the real from the...unreal. 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

Hells yeah! I can throw a good ribeye in the GFG for about 6 minutes, and have am awesome, super rare hunk of cow ass. YUM! 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

I hold a medical MJ ticket in my home state, and enjoy all the privledges that come with it. 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

Now in my mid 50's, I rarely eat fast food. However, in the last year, I have cut it out completely. I also (for the most part) quit eating processed food. So, in the last 53 weeks, my cholestrol number has gone from 295, down to 141. 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

As someonme who has held this postion on a busy DZ... It will be the best of times... and it will be the worst of times. 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

Grace Potter. 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

"First rule of Fight Club? Don't talk about Fight Club." The gang should have just harvested fat from the dumpster at the local lipo clinic. 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

If it's really that big of a deal to you, larger dishes are available (usually for fringe locations), or you can mount two dishes, and co-phase them into the receiver. Any competent installer should be able to hook you up. HTH 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

You can give these folks a try... http://www.millenicom.com/mobilebroadband/index.html A lot of the bus conversion guys use them once they go fulltime on the road. It's not for everyone, but there is no contract, and you can also have real unlimited service for $10 extra per month. HTH 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"

What's a "verge"? 359 "Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything"