skydived19006

Looks like Jeff slipped off the face of the earth. Nobody remembers him, no response.

I'm looking for Jumpdude! I did message him through dropzone.com, but he may not frequent here so much anymore. Had a few discussions with Jeff years ago, mostly centred around Skyride and such. I don't even know Jeff's last name.

Looked here, looked on the internet, no joy. Were the Journey band members skydivers?

From Keener: Parachute bands are available at the following price points: 1-100 lbs $7.00 / lb 250 lbs $6.90 / lb 500 lbs $6.85 / lb 1,000 lbs + $6.80 / lb The most common sizes are: Micro 1 1/4" x 3/8 x .062 (add $0.50 per pound) Micro 1 1/2 x 3/8 x .062 (add $0.50 per pound) Standard 2 x 3/8 x .062 or .080 Tandem 2 x 5/8 x .062 or .080 We also produce Mil Spec bands Type I and Type I Out of curiosity, I inquired about the Mil Spec bands. This was the reply: Mil spec bands require about $350 in testing and certificates.

"There is iron in your words." We do a lot of what Jen's talking about with our tandem students. I intentionally put time in the schedule such that we (Instructors) have time to spend with our students. We could do more, Jen's DZ was a prime example of doing tandem the "right way" for sure! I will admit, I hadn't considered just how awesome folks are for simply showing up at the DZ. And, when you do spend a little time with them, you learn some incredible stories of the how and why that person is standing in front of you at that moment. We're by far from the largest, and really a prime example of what a small DZ is. We don't do the most tandems, or put the most seats to altitude, but with very few exceptions every student who passes through the place gets a handshake or hug from the owner! "Endeavor to persevere!" Martin

Perfect! Obviously, it's been a while since I looked at this, but I'm on it! Emailed Keener for pricing and minimum quantity info.

It appears that there's a real shortage of standard size packing rubber bands. Paragear indicated that they're on a 3 to 4 week back order, but after a call, did send me one bag. They're rationing them out it seems. Two other sources are out of stock as well. I did find them with Art and Kathy at the Skydive Store, and for a better price than anywhere else I'd tried! https://www.skydivestore.com Edit to add: It's not my intention to disparage Paragear, I talk with Maureen and Carol every once in a while. They've ALWAYS treated me well and fairly with great customer service. Excellent folks to work with.

Well, heck. What I'd like to shoot HC would be a 7 for video and one of my pile of 3 or 4 for stills. Doesn't sound like there's much chance of ever outfitting a glove to do it. Maybe you could build a housing for legacy on bottom and 5/6/7 on top with access to buttons and ports??? Bet it would sell! Martin

Sure Jeff, no problem or offence taken. My opinion has remained consistent regarding these criminals for the last 13 years. Martin Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ

Ok, I called the guy noted as Trustee on the above noted web site. He's actually not the trustee, he'd rejected it, and one Martha Miller is. He did talk with me though, indicated "They can name everybody in the phone book." I told him that I'd been tossing the notices in the trash to which he responded "Keep tossing them." What's noted on the bankruptcy website for free is not the full list, there's an option to pay for the full list. The name of "my DZ" is also not really correct. They note: Air Capital Dropzone Skydiving My business is Air Capital Drop Zone which is a dba of Myrtle Aviation Inc. You are correct Jumpdude in that I do know better. I also don't tend to keep up on these forums, so if you'd like to talk with me regarding shit like this, shit in general, or anything else, feel to contact me. I'm easy to find. Otherwise, I'm not upset of offended that you "called me out publicly", fuck I'd have done the same thing. Martin Myrtle Air Capital Drop Zone Wichita KS 316.776.1700 Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ

Well shit! It looks like I'd better make a phone call or two. My DZ specifically is named, and I thought that those notification letters must have been going to every DZ. I (Air Capital Drop Zone) did trade with Skyride for approximately six months some dozen years back, so don't really see why I'd be noted as a creditor. But, if they're going to potentially pay me a settlement, I'm good with that. I also noticed that there was "Zero assets" but that the boys had been jailed for obstruction. I received a PM giving me a heads up that I'd been "called out." I appreciate the head's up! I'll get back with further developments. Martin Myrtle DZO Air Capital Drop Zone Wichita KS 316.776.1700 Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ

Over 20 years ago a few of us Kansans were on a Florida trip. One of our group was flat packing and an audience gathered around him, they'd never seen it! Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ

I do agree that there's value added in getting together, and it's a whole lot more appealing to go somewhere. Sitting at home at your computer all day would be quite unapealing. Maybe move to a Winter Meeting virtual and Summer Meeting in person. I would be interested to know what it the bottom line is for one of these meetings, to include pulling staff from VA and their normal daily jobs. Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ

So, it was a bit of an off the cuff rant and should have been better worded. Thanks for the feedback on my use/misuse of the language. I shall endever to do better. Your constructive critiscizm has put a burning desire in me for self improvement! Guessing from your response that you have no thoughts on the questions, only feedback on my poor English? What say you ShorterMG? Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ

BOD members or anyone with knowledge, has there ever been any discussion on taking the biannual BOD meetings virtual? Seems a huge waste of member money to this member. Also USPA staff time to pack up and go remote for something that could be done over the internet. It seems logical to locate these meetings at USPA headquarters, anyone not wanting to go vitrual could go to HQ. The Executive Commettee meet somewhat often between meetings and conduct business. Has there ever been any discussion on reducing the number of BOD members? What exactly is the role of the National Directors? Could the NDs not simply be eleminated and roll those duties to the RDs? I guess though that if the meetings were done virtual, it wouldn't really matter how many members since the member money spend is for all the travel for two meetings a year. As I undrstand, there's always a lot of discussion regarding where to hold the next, the BOD members argue over where will be the most fun to travel to on the membership dime. Stop the madness! Martin Myrtle 104570 Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ

I think that this is a topic well worth discussion, but "we" may be overcomplicating it. I run a single 182 DZ, we train IAD. I simply see an expedited progression, possibly similar to what we'd do if someone walked in with a 10 year old log book with 10 or 12 jumps. We move them forward depending on performance. I think that what we may need to help some to understand is that the USPA student progression is not written in stone, you can deviate, combine, move faster, etc., all dependent on the students demonstrated ability. For someone with five or 10 hours of tunnel time who came to my DZ with a desire to learn to "do it for real", I'd think that we would require them to do at least one simple IAD then progress to PPCTs if they did that exceptionally well. At least two PPCTs done exceptionally well to progress to H&P. Missing the "extremely well", they'd do all five IAD jumps. Well done H&P, move to 10 second delay, do that and look like a 100 jump skydiver, we'd move on. Potentially have them jumping from the top in 7 jumps as opposed to a dozen. Then push through the normal skills, likely spending the typical time on tracking, diving to dock, etc., stuff that's more difficult to simulate in a tunnel. As soon as they can demonstrate the A License Check Dive, they're on self supervision until completing the accuracy, 25 jumps, packing, etc. How the tunnel more often comes into play with our situation, is that once students get to freefall, we encourage them to go spend time in the tunnel. As far as value, a student exiting my 182 at 10,000' has about 30 seconds of real working time, and spends $80 USD. For that same $80, they can spend four or five minutes in a wind tunnel with pretty much every bit of that time being highly instructional. What I did learn though is that we need to instruct our students how to "go to the tunnel". I was discussing this very topic with one of our recent skydiver graduates. She didn't think that her time in the wind tunnel helped her at all. Turns out that she did a 2 Minute Introductory Flight. They need to inform the peeps at the tunnel that they are a skydiving student, and I'd think, do at least five minutes. Martin Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ

We transitioned from static line to IAD in 99 at the DZ in Lyons KS, Oz Sport Parachute Culb/Center. Other than the correctly orintented depolyment with IAD over SL, the hand deploy PC and all else the same as a sport system is a great advantage. Training main rip cord and single operation syetem, then transitioning was not the best. I believe that the K-State club changed a couple of years ago from spring loaded SL, to deploying a hand deploy PC on static line. Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ

I would have to assume that it's not mechanically limited, or at minimum, nothing to keep a pilot from maintaining 325 hp in excess of five minutes. Cessna would have had to have preformed spin testing in order to certify the airplane, and possibly again with the restart. Though, I'd guess that they don't operate on Kindergarten Rules when it comes to sharing. Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ

The -21 is still supported by PWC? The -20 is not supported any longer? Can't really lose either way with the -20, buy em cheap with good time left, run em cool for a long time, rence/repeat. If the -20s dry up, can move to the -21. Sound about right? Is 325/300 hp the max you're rated to run on this airframe per the FAA STC? Martin Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ

A couple of comments, somewhat unrelated. You can safely run without a modern engine monitor, but you can run a hell of a lot more efficiently with a 6 cylinder monitor. I'm running a Texas Skyways 520 with the high compression cylinders (standard). That engine loses 10% power if running overly rich (EGT 1200 +/-) and burns a lot more fuel! Again unrelated, PPonk STC goes back to some model in the late 60s as I recall, but for sure nothing before the model change with the 182E. Those airplanes are all operating on a Field Approval. The FAA will not give field approval on any increase of more than 10%. I figured out that they work that system by putting a data plate on the engine indicating 250 hp. Martin Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ

Exactly, and thank you John. It is still a germane subject. I've witnessed harnesses go out of the airplane at boogies that I thought were not appropriately adjusted. Not necessarily dangerously so, but the chest strap way lower than anyone would think appropriate on their sport rig. Possibly the harness in that picture was put on the student by someone other than the tandem instructor. He totally changed it before they boarded the airplane. However it happened, it didn't go out of the airplane as depicted in as they were walking to the loading area. Martin Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ

I would edit, or at a minimum remove the attachment from the original post in this thread if I were allowed. Many may see the first post, and not drill down far enough to find the "retraction". Maybe a moderator would so obliged as to remove the attachment on the opening post? Martin Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ

I was sure enough that I was correct that I spent 15 minutes finding the pictures again. I also had thught that I wasn't calling out any particular DZ, only to now notice that the two instructors are wearing CSC shirts. I had made an assumption also that since they were walking to the airplane, and that the leg straps were fully tight, that the harness appeared to be fully adjusted. I was incorrect. I looked through the pictures again, and at some point the harness was adjusted, at a minimum, shortened the laterals, back straps and moved up the chest strap. For sure as Sandy called me out, the harness was correctly adjusted by the time by the time that they were on the airplane. So, I apologise to all involved. I fully believe Sandy's assertion that they "do it right at CSC". I was not intentionally trying to be inflammatory, but regardless was incorrect in my assertion. Thank you Sandy for calling me on it! That said, I have seen harnesses exit the airplane at various times in a similar state. Here's the link to the full set of pictures for anyone so inclined to look. http://galleries.skydivecsc.com/Tandem-Skydives/2016/11-November/06/Katelyn-Tellez/i-sR6b7mv/A Martin Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ

Good point. I noticed a UPT harness adjusted similar to this by a Strong TI. I helped him with the chest strap adjustment. As a USPA IE I likely should have asked if he was also rated on UPT gear. Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ