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Hello all, I was in Eloy for the new year's eve and the local instructors gave an amazing tunnel show. Unfortunately, I had not brought my camera. Does anyone know where to get a copy of the video, if available, or could someone who was there post a link to a video of the show? Thanks in advance.

Thank you for the comments I did try all that and still... In fact I bought my camera in the US (I'm French), and I have a friend who's got the exact same but wh bought it in France. With his camera it works perfectl and it does not with mine although we are doing the same thing. There might be a zone difference?

Yes I use the VCR mode (I even tried in both modes just in case...). However, I do exactly as you say with pinnacle but still it tells me to check if the camera is on of if the cable is OK. Could my firewire cable work in only one direction? (I'm better in the sky than at computers!). Do you have to switch anything on the camera so that it accepts an "in" signal?

Hi everyone I have no problem importing my videos from my PC101 to my PC either under pinnacle v9 or premiere pro and editing them but there is no way I can export beck my final work on a DV tape in my PC101. With premiere the camera starts recording but in fact it does not record anything and in pinnacle it tells me that it is impossible to initialize the DV camera. There must be a parameter that I don't know in my camera. Can anyone help me?

Just a few precisions. First, the atmonauti flight was developped by Marco and Gi, who are ITALIAN and not French.They imported it in France later in Lapalisse. Second, the flock has an angle closer to vertical. Atmonauti is around 34 to 45 degres from horizontal. The atmonauti is nor only flying with an angle, it also involves building big ways; Moreover, it is the first time I see someone tracking feet first Third, who cares if the americans are before or after the French. We have always had different ways of flying (you usually fly slower in head down and more in daffy), and both are interesting. Just compare Olav's style and Nicolas Arnaud's one. The important thing is to fly and learn as much as possible from each other and not to enter into sterile polemics.

Hi VecorBoy Please send my blessings to Marco and Gi and tell them that Gi still has to improve in relative work (they will understand...). My name is Arnaud

Hi Mel It-'s pretty easy to fly the atmonauti properly. It comes pretty fast, specially if you are already good in head down. his why it's cool: you can easily put to people in an atmonauti jump without the dangers of a 20way head down if the flyers are not very experienced. Then see you in Espace Boogie next year in the atmonauti big ways (there are going to be plenty) Arnaud

Well, the problem is that it was the freestyle competition, so you don't see very well the angle because you have no reference. However, I found it pretty cool when I saw her gripped by two guys in normal atmonauti, demonstrating that you can do the vertical stuff also in an angle., including eagles; spoks...

What I call efficiency is the horizontal speed/ vertical speed ratio. I don't know the exact term in English. According to Marco, this ratio can be better in atmonauti than in normal track because of the body position. It can seem strange because your body has more angle in atmonauti flight than in track, but it is more aerodynamic and thus creates a kind a lift effect (like a canopy). On some pictures, you can see that the rigs of the ones flying in the belly is lifted from the body due to this lift effect. This is how you can reach low vertical speeds. The higher your horizontal speed is, the lower your vertical speed is. In tandem, Marco can fly at 180 km/h without the small stuff to slow you down (sorry, I don't now the term in English).

Hi guys, these are the pistures I have found. I don't know if you cfan really realize the angle from these. They include a tandem atonauti. Besides, what is the max size of attachments? I have other pictures of Gi standing in the angle and others but I can not reduce them lower than 600kb in jpg (or they will look very bad)

Well I've been trying to find pictures or articles on the web without any success or I only founf articles in French or Italian. It is hard to explain by words but easy to show to someone. Basically, on the ground , imagine that you are head down in a nice straddke. The legs are open and the arms on the sides of the chest, not too high. Now, don't move your legs but push your chest forward and slightly bend your knees. You look like a toad and you are in the belly position. It is the reverse for the back position. The best is to do it with an experience atmonaut for the first time, in order to pick up the right angle. What I can say is that it is closer to the horizontal that to the vertical. When you are flying on your belly, look between your legs and that is where you should see the fellows flying on their backs. On your belly, the visual is mostly on the groung and on the back you only see the sky. Horizontally speaking, the people on their backs have to remain after the ones on their belly and the ones that are above the formation have to be in front of the ones below. As I said, the reference level is switched from a vertical one to a 45 degres reference. Consequently, there is no problem of depression. Regulate the proximity by adjusting your angle. For example, if you are on the back but to low, push on your arms andmove your chest forward, then your angle will be more flat. If you are on the belly, move your chest forward and your angle will increase. I hope I made it clear. It can be a little tricky at the begening to get the proper angle, but believe me, it can be great fun because you can easily put 10 to 20 people in a atmonauti jump safely. When you find the right angle, you will feel like the absence of gravity. Its is pretty weird and hard to explain. In case you do not manage, come to France next summer for the Vichy Boogie and we'll convert you to the atmonauti tribe. If you know someone you understands italian, visit http://www.frick-atmonauti.com/

The atmonauti flight is a 45 degres angle flight, either on belly or on the back. It was invented by Marco Tiezzi and Gigliola Borgnis. Basically, the position is the same as in head down but with the upper part of the body creating an angle, not at all like the track position. Unlike a track where people follow the reference, eveyone in the jump has to be at the head level, just like a head down big way but switching the horizontal reference level to a 45 degres reference level. The feelings are great. The atmonauti flight is more efficient than the track. You can reduce your vertical speed down to 155 km/h. On the other hand, you can have much more control over the movements and it is pretty easy to construct jumps with many people gripping each other and it is accessible to people who don't yet master the head down. Gi even does it feet firsts, standing in the angle. So far, she's the only one to be able to do it. I did not think it was possible before seeing it.

Hi everyone I'd like to know how widespread is the atmonauti flight. We do a lot of it with Marco and Gi in Lapalisse (France). It is becoming more and more common in France. There is even one atmonauti figure in the championship program. However I don't know how widespread it is abroad, specially in the US. Bue sky

(long post) All the suggestions that have been made so far are very good and as sais by many, relax is the most imoportant, however not the legs. When trying to hold a head down, the lags will anchor you in the air , so they must be very tonic (at least when you learn). Most people advise you to try the head down directly either from the plane exit, either from a head up position. In that case, you should not make your attempts last for more than 4-5 seconds, because you don't know where you are going. This is a good method for some people but others are blocked with this technique, probably because of an imperfect head up position. Its main problem is that you try to transition to a position that you don't know and 4 secondsis a bit short to get the proper feelings. The alternative is not to focus directly on head down but rather practive the atmonauti flight on belly and on back inveted by Marco Tiezzy and Gigliola Borgnis (Frick Atmonauti). For those who are not familar with it, it is a 45 degres flight either on belly or on back. It is much easier that head down because you can start from tracking, but if you do it right, the movements and position are the same than in head down. Flying on the belly would be like an extreme backward motion in head down and flying on the back an extreme forward motion. Once you know how to fly the atmonauti, speclially on the belly (the closest to head down), you just have to give more angle and progressively reach head down, keeping in mind all the advice that were given in the other posts. Marco and Gi (Frick atmonauti) use this techniques for beginners and it works very well. You must not forget that head down is judt one particular angle and that there are many angles before and after? If you also master these angles, you also master your movements in head down. I'm not saying that this technique is the best since it also has inconvienents. For example, some people tend to keep an angle when fkying head down and have trouble to correct it. However, this method is a good alternative that will certainly imporve your global freefly skills. To my view, flying in the angle is anyway an increasing part of freefly (just look at the freefly jumps in the Vichy Boogie this year) and the two techiques are complementary. One obvious think I forgot to mention is that when doing this, someone in the jump (flying on the belly) must make sure that you are perpendicular to the droping axis (you can go at more than 100km/h horizontal speed and less that 160km/h vertical speed!). Learning to do it in atmonauti will give you good habits for when you fly head down. Have fun in the angle!

What you say is funny. I have a stiletto 135 and I often heve shit openings (often turning and sometimes very brutal). Most of the people owing a stiletto 120 I talked to say that their openings are very good. Could it be a problem of wing loading? I'm 65kg and I'm not very familiar with the kg/pounds conversion+the addition of the rig weight. Now I'm thinking of switching to a 120 as I'm pretty confident with mine, but I'm still hesitating with the crossfire2 or the oncoming katana. The reasons for that are the openings (specially with a camera) and to have longer flares. Do you have any suggestion?