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I did dude already posted what the article used. They mentioned he has expressed hatred for religions on his social media. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

He posted on his facebook and social media that's not enough?? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Hello back buddy. I get that this is a dude is to be judged on an individual bases my friend, i am from the church of i don't know my self. I just find it very interesting how people decide to react to incidents depending on who has done what to whom, instead of what is done. I also notice that in general people who group up people never seem to group up themselves. So i am playing a little devils advocate i was sure i made it obvious. Don't want you to waist your energy arguing with me when we basically agree on this. Ass hole kills innocent people. that's the way i see it regardless of his religion lack of or what he said on facebook. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Stop worrying about stuff like that Andy Why are you trying analyze the facts to see if there is a property dispute, or any other history. He hates god and he killed people who love god, Black and white buddy just the way SC handles all other issues. All this looking at facts and trying to be objective, wonder how the tone would change if it said Muslim kills Atheist family in Chapel hill after posting on Facebook he hates nonbelievers. CNN would still be running the story. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

You are right, So Agnostic then? It is his lack of faith that must have lead him down the path of violence, only if he was a Jew, Christian or Muslim he would have known killing is a sin. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Or it could just be a righteous gun owner involved in a parking dispute: “Our preliminary investigation indicates that the crime was motivated by an ongoing neighbor dispute over parking,” the police said in a statement. Yes Kallend! it was just a simple dispute but the man made sure to bring up his beliefs when he was arrested for the,murder. Funny how that works. Now if he would have yelled Alho akbar!?? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Oh i agree, but here is a guy who literally said i am killing these people because i am an Atheist. Now if there is two more shootings does it become about the Atheism or the person, a hundred more. Just curious whats the number where people start blaming a belief system and not the person. Also good to remember this dude was living a fantastic standard of life in the US and no one was kicking down his door, invading his land, or bowing up his family on a daily bases for 10 years. Just things to keep the ones who always lack perspective to maybe get some. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/11/chapel-hill-murders_n_6660080.html Atheist kills Muslim family because of his beliefs, or maybe its because he is from Chapel Hill. Sad story, my view we have crazy people everywhere, but This is SC and by some logic it must be because this kid was white, Lacked faith or its because he is from Chapel hill. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

What religion was Hitler? FYI i know the answer. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Thank you for that post. I could not agree more. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I just want to add one thing and i wonder if you agree. I think at the root of the problem is not the type of religion or even religion it self. To me the main issue Idealism, people who are sure when no one could possibly be. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I think that's incorrect, i mean from a guy who is willing to die for the right cause or the just cause i bet many of them believed in a higher purpose. I also think many people do good and help others because of that belief in ghosts. Yes there is evil as well but it is not one sided by any means. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

From my understanding the money for the ISIS came from the Saudi Arabia . Not sure if it is still coming or not. The guns they got from the Iraqi Army which is all made in the US. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Agree, and i think everyone agrees as well, I believe every country in the region is fighting them the only one i am not sure of (don't have information) is Saudi Arabia. And they are not strong compared to a real army i am just blown away that these guys are still around. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

So as far as i can see and read all countries and groups other then the ISIS hates the ISIS. Even ones that don;t seem to agree on any thing else seem to agree that the ISIS needs to be killed off. So it would seem that lets kill these guys is what we can all agree on. So why are these fuckers not turned to pink mist yet? Basically is there any one or any country that does not want the ISIS eliminated? I feel like i am missing something? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Dude its facts its not anti any thing its just pro truth. This whole idea of good guys and bad guys is asinine to me. I live in the US i love bacon, boobies and am anti traditional to every culture i have been a part of. That doesn't give me the right to force my view on others, or to vilify them. I know people who look at our way (the American way of life) as horrific, instinct based,materialistic and lacking any spirituality. that's their right to think that and not want to become us. To each there own. Also when we confuse understandable grievances and make it about idealism were fucked. That is what happens on both sides. They are both wrong. I don't have to pretend that all our troops are super heroes, everything we do as holy to love the US, i am sorry that some have a ferry tail standard i don't. We kill people we do it for our comfort, we do it so gas is cheap food is cheap and we all enjoy a good standard of life. All you have to do is see what percentage of the world is the US population, and then pic any major resource and see what percentage we use. Its not opinion its math. I think all of the desperate and horrific action, at least a vast majority of it is motivated by desperation and a shitty life by the individuals living in that area. It is so much easier to hate when your hungry then when your full. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

This is Also historical fact. No other country in the last 100 years has started more wars we average one every decade, many socially the ones who post or write this trash consider us a christian nation. So according to numbers of dead, wars started and blood spilled no NATION in the world is as blood hungry or savage as the Christian United States. Oh yea Historical fact. Can you name any Christian country has? The idea that your version of freedom is the only kind is retarded and to surprise shows a very limited perspective and life expe3rnice. Freedom for everyone is not the same, there are many things you are not free to do in the US. But because its your version it does not offend you. Freedom means freedom for every culture and country to form their own way of freedom. Some things are more looked down and up on in different cultures. Woman's rights come up often in the Muslim world. In my experience i have never heard a Iranian girl,woman (notice i didn't just say Muslim because i actually have REAL discussions and experiences with actual people) Compare sexual promiscuity as freedom. Thats an American feminist movement that thinks the right to get gang banged by random strangers is a show of freedom. Just because a majority of a culture does not want to promote such behavior doesn't mean they are not free they don;t want your version of it and that is their right. Get over your self. The idea that the country with more broken families more teenage pregnancy, all this rape and violence wants to tell others how to live is beyond stupid. The idea that our way is the only way and all others are flawed is the opposite of freedom. Simply put They don't want our style of life! and you have been inflicting wars and false governments, destroying democracies for the last 100 years, and then you wonder why there is blow back. All so we can maintain the infinite growth capitalistic model of life which we enjoy. Lets not pretend that it has to do with shit from a 1000 years ago. Its because we consume everything and we like it. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

All Jews???? , All Muslims??????? Again with the ALL. Which is always my main issue. I know ISIS is nuts, I know the Talabon Suck, i know we have bad people, but the ALLLLLL There are Jewish rabbis who suck infants cocks, but i would be an ass hole to say all Jews suck infant cock. Do you understand this. Some how for most of you Muslims is always an all or nothing subject. WHY? What is it you guys are missing Seriously. Can i use the Priest child fucking to generalize all Christians? Is that ok Can i use the Troops who have been convicted of killing and raping innocent girls in Iraq as all American troops rape and kill innocents? So to answer you, yes i can find many examples of horrific behavior by Jews Muslims Christians and Scientologest but that still does not make generalizing them not retarded. Sorry Bolas i am sure you didn't not mean it that way but i see that shit on here. Muslims all billion of them. Before anyone brings up the Quran please note the retarded shit in all religious texts and the retarded people SOME Jews Muslims and Christians who believe one must live by those words. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Really in all of the Muslim world? Or the tiny segment you watched on the news? It's reality in Afghanistan. There have been a large number of women assassinated. Usually for advocating for women's rights. Or for advocating education of women. Afghanistan is a desperate place that has had nothing but war. To try to use Islam as the explanation for horrific acts is inaccurate. It would like saying look at all the problems in Africa..fucking black people! I am not saying that religion does not act as a motivator but so does nationalism the root of the action is desperation. IMO I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Really in all of the Muslim world? Or the tiny segment you watched on the news? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

That's really about it. The Jews have a much better PR firm and have many families and groups who have settled in the US at an earlier date then the Muslims. In that time they have acquired much more power then the Muslims ,Both in political terms, Media, and financial. So not surprising that they will use and flex the power to sway public opinion. They have been extremely successful at swaying public opinion to an almost one sided view until a little thing called the internet came in to play. Now people can see the truth off course some are already brain washed past the point of no return. In NY when the Jewish religious police(WHO HAVE ZERO AUTHORITY) attacked a biker it was news for about 5 secs. If it was a Muslim Religious police who attacked an American biker think of the uproar the questions you would see from all media out lets. They would make it seem that NY was taken over by evil Muslims who want to change your way of life. Ted Nugent would make a statement and it would get blasted over and over again. Same with any Israeli conflict, NPR spend ten minutes humanizing ONE Israeli casualty, and just casually dismisses 9 Palestinians also died (never says anything other then a number, or that they were mostly woman and kids). Then you hear that one of their sponsors is the American Jewish Society. So not hard to see why. It is all easily understandable , but sad that most are not aware that the view presented is often very one sided. No different then when a politician is swayed by who his donators are. Look at Nathanyahu? Here is a guy who is itching to start a war (remember the bomb graph at the UN). He is the prime minister of a country that has nuclear weapons and refuses to sign any treaty. What has he been trying to do?, start a war with Iran for trying to get nuclear power. I mean the fact that people just don't see the obvious issue is insane. We look like hypocrites and have been for more then 60 years now because of our blind support for Israel, They have worked against the US, spied against us, stolen secrets, yet we still support them. Why?? Simple the issues mentioned above. The Jewish community in the US is very powerful, and the people are very easily mislead. The reason Americans are so easily mislead, is they believe what they are being told. Most other countries have such obviously shitty governments that it is known fact that you cant trust them and they will lie. Americans are just beginning to realize this. So these are the reasons you don't hear the same uproar. Hypocrisy, Media control, and an ill informed populace Also the Holocaust card that the Jewish community has relied on, You criticize Jews even when it is factual even when you have video you must just hate Jews. So its a very powerful and dismissive tool that is used very often. Just try this in a bar, Go and talk about how you saw a video of Muslims killing kids and be harsh , do the same thing with the IDF both stories true see the reaction. See how weird it gets when you Rightfully and with the same evidence criticize the Jewish IDF. Thats what social brain washing is. We do the same thing With black and white for different reasons I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Didn't watch the movie, read the book. The book is a very black and white, one sided view of things. As expected from a guy who killed the "Savages" BTW Any person tan , or that was different then what he viewed as normal was referred to by him as "Savages". LOL i don't know but that was funny to me. Imaging some Texan killing them savages like Jesus wanted. Like a bad fucking movie I liked it! the stories are interesting to me, and it was a fun, at times for the wrong reasons, but good book. I find so much absolute ignorance in his mentality, i understand a difference in opinion but he showed what most red necks show a lack of perspective in a lot of his views. One part in the book he says with 100% certainty that he didn't care about the Iraqis he knew all they wanted to do was kill Americans they all hated Americans. I know he was a smart guy i know he had honor and more balls then most, but the inability to grasp that people will hate whom ever kills them or invades them just made me shake my head. He couldn't understand a lot of the horrendous behavior is from desperation. We don't exactly act all civilized when the power goes out! let alone war and seeing loved ones ripped apart. MY conclusion from book: I hate the fucking propaganda machines who brain wash some of the best of our people (on Earth) to kill and die for lies. So much wasted energy and talent. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Yes that's my perception, my view after seeing incident after incident of police acting horrifically and getting away with a slap on the wrist, even when there is proof of abuse. I think cops are people and just like most people very fallible add the ego you have or get from being one not a great recipe to be left unchecked. I don't understand how we don't have an organization that actually watches the police. one that's independent of the their hierarchy. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I am with you ill say most cops are good guys, here is where it all goes to shit in my opinion. You have one bad cop who does horrific shit and the "good cops" don't say anything because of a brotherhood. Thats when they all become bad as they are no longer serving the public. Other issue when they do get caught they often serve a much reduced sentence which defies logic to most as we think they should receive harsher punishment. When that happens you are no longer serving the public you become no different then a gang. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain