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Hey billvon, Thanks for the thoughtful response. I really like the approach you outlined and I think it makes a lot of sense to have a heavily moderated forum where the facts, or whatever approximates facts could be posted. I think this would go a long way towards getting relevant information out to people in a timely manner. One thing I would ask is that it not be reduced to an online version of the incidents section in parachutist. I understand your point about having the opposite of the desired effect, but i'm not 100% on board with you yet. I think people will always discuss every incident, whether they are classified as routine or unusual. I thought that having a "routine" incidents forum would ultimately put people on notice as to the frequency of routine vs. unusual events. So the spirit of my original post was not really about finding unusual incidents, but rather to highlight the alarming rate at which people continue to make the same mistakes. You also mentioned how the notion of "routine" evolves. I think it would be interesting academically to see how the community's definition of "routine" changes over time. For example, weren't no-pull's fairly routine before AAD's, and now it's low turns? But as a friend pointed out, the classification of an incident as routine could become a point of serious contention/debate and detract from the purpose of n incidents forum. So i'm not sure how realistic it would be to implement my original idea. What do you think? Gotta go... plaything needs to spank me Feel the hate... Photos here

I haven't jumped in some time but I do check in here occasionally and have noticed over time that there are two types of incidents in skdiving: routine and unusual. At the risk of sounding harsh/heartless, I would like to propose that the incidents forum be separated into a "routine" incidents forum and an "unusual" incidents forum. I think this will do at least two things. First, having a routine incidents forum will make it more obvious how often people make the same mistakes, e.g. hooking it in. Perhaps it will make some people think twice about what they do when they are at the dz. Secondly, separating all the routine, nothing to learn from incidents from the true WTF type incidents may help to focus the community's awareness onto what are truly tragic incidents that we can all learn from. Some past examples are tandem incidents, slink cover incidents/fatalities, camera suit/gear and wingsuit related incidents. In terms of implementation, I think initially all incidents should probably be classified as unusual until proven otherwise. What do you all think? Gotta go... plaything needs to spank me Feel the hate... Photos here

lol i'm lucky if I can find mine after i'm done. Gotta go... plaything needs to spank me Feel the hate... Photos here

Amazon: Need to check in once in a while to make sure things don't get too civilized around here. NWFlyer - I'm just passing thru.

Curious as to what people do with their undies before doing the deed and reasons (if any). Gotta go... plaything needs to spank me Feel the hate... Photos here

Your opinion is crap. How's that for thought provoking criticism? Find us a posting where someone said that doing a jump has a 1 in 6 chance of death. Not exactly one in six. In the following case the person is saying you will die 100% of the time unless you do something. More like russian roulette with a semi automatic pistol. Top of pg 3: rigging65 said: On a completely different note (nerd alert), it's interesting to note the ratio of frequentist vs. bayesian type arguments in this thread. Are all skydivers bayesian? Gotta go... plaything needs to spank me Feel the hate... Photos here

Welcome to the United States of China. Gotta go... plaything needs to spank me Feel the hate... Photos here

Yeah PD has a very attractive value proposition. It's amazing how some companies just get it while others don't. Gotta go... plaything needs to spank me Feel the hate... Photos here

I can't attest to why the program was cancelled back in the 60's but when I was an undergrad there in the 90's I knew of only one ROTC student. Seemed to me like they just didn't have enough interest on campus to justify building a high quality ROTC program. Fordham already offers a fantastic program at their manhattan campus. Why start a program on campus that may take years to get up to speed and even then, may never be as good as what is already available to its students? In fact, the same argument can be made of the Columbia medical school. Their classrooms are off the main campus deep in the freaking hood, right next to the Columbia hospital. Or how about evil cornell medical school located not in Ithaca, NY along with the rest of the students but in the heart of New York City? My point is that maybe they've gotten to the point where Columbia ROTC students can get better training off campus than they can on campus. Anyone ever stop to think about that? Gotta go... plaything needs to spank me Feel the hate... Photos here

I find it interesting that this type of attack hasn't already occurred in the US. I have very limited experience with Brits so perhaps one of the locals could comment, but it seems to me like minorities, particularly Muslims, are marginalized and persecuted more often in GB vs. the US, leading to an environment conducive to extremist beliefs. Am I totally off-base here? Gotta go... plaything needs to spank me Feel the hate... Photos here

Reminds me of the crown heights riots (NY, 1991). Gotta go... plaything needs to spank me Feel the hate... Photos here

It's interesting to see how much of the budget goes to paying off the costs of past wars (presumably interest on war-related debt, veterans pensions and benefits...) Which is 3x as much as spent on health and education combined. (Clicky added) Gotta go... plaything needs to spank me Feel the hate... Photos here

My problem with the opposing landing patterns is that it only works if the no fly zone is strictly observed. If someone screws up their base leg it's highly probable that they will violate the no fly zone and pose an unexpected hazard. People setting up too high in the pattern could take their base leg long (seen it happen in Eloy with their split landing area), or people setting up low in the right handed pattern could bail on their 270 and opt out for a 90 or 180, which would be ok unless people get their panties in a bunch about 90's and 180's in the high performance area. If all traffic is coming in from the same direction with a split landing area, at least the intentions of the traffic are clear as to what type of turn they are planning. Gotta go... plaything needs to spank me Feel the hate... Photos here

Bad idea But I think you already got the idea from others. Gotta go... plaything needs to spank me Feel the hate... Photos here

Had a question about one of the audience members but never mind Gotta go... plaything needs to spank me Feel the hate... Photos here