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  1. 3 hours ago, billvon said:

    Thanks for the answer.

    It sounds like you heard that there was an operation that wasn't carried out, and later remembered it to be "Biden ordered our military not to go past the airport perimeter."  No worries.

    "Dozens of high-risk individuals, families with small children, orphans, and pregnant women, were secretly moved through the streets of Kabul throughout the night and up to just seconds before ISIS detonated a bomb into the huddled mass of Afghans seeking safety and freedom," retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel Scott Mann, a member of Task Force Pineapple and a retired Green Beret commander, told ABC News. "This Herculean effort couldn't have been done without the unofficial heroes inside the airfield who defied their orders to not help beyond the airport perimeter, by wading into sewage canals and pulling in these targeted people who were flashing pineapples on their phones."


    Here ya go.

    But I've already figured out how you twist everything, If someone said the sky is blue and you shouldn't piss into the wind you'd come up with something to the contrary. 

    There are a few in here that give some common sense thought to a discussion, but the majority don't and just bash. And then there's the outright trolls. OK, I really am out of here. 

    (Al Pacino voice) I really liked that one! LOL  For reals this time.

  2. 2 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

    Thank you.

    I appreciate your answer. 

    However, 'not carrying out operations' is not the same as 'ordered not to leave the perimeter'.
    And stating a policy isn't the same as issuing orders. 
    Biden seems to 'know his limitations'. He's flat out said that he's following the advice and recommendations of the military leadership. The idea that Biden is issuing basic operational 'housekeeping' admin orders is kind of silly.

    Part of a 'peace agreement' is respecting the opponent. You know, 'preventing tensions'.
    So far, as far as I can tell, the Taliban is holding up their end of the agreement. 

    No Taliban attacks on US forces, allowing US citizens to pass through checkpoints to access the airport for evac, that sort of thing. 

    On a slightly different note, the US has conducted 2 drone strikes since the suicide bombings at the airport.
    The first is claimed to have killed the ISIS-K leader who was behind the bombings.
    The second was right near the airport. Close enough that it was first thought to be another suicide bombing. However it was a drone strike on what is claimed to be another bombing attempt. Sympathetic detonations following the missile suggest that's a correct assumption. 


    I'm not linking anything, it's enough of a headline that a quick search will find multiple stories.


    Thank you.

    It's refreshing to see an intelligent thought out response.

    I found it- and I stand corrected that Biden was referring to forces other than the Taliban, and the wording of ops outside vs expanding the security perimeter.

    (Slightly different note also-not expanding the security perimeter still did not prevent "unintended consequences" -the attack by ISIS-k.)

     Q    Thank you, Mr. President.  You mentioned just now using every resource available for evacuations.  Why haven’t you ordered the military to expand the security perimeter around the Kabul airport?  Do you have any plans to do so, given that it will likely require more U.S. troops?  And are you considering rescue operations to recover Americans and Afghan allies stuck behind Taliban checkpoints?

    THE PRESIDENT:  The last answer is yes — to the last question.  We’re considering every op- — every opportunity and every means by which we can get folks to the airport.  That’s number one.

    Number two, the reason why we have not gone out and started — and set up a perimeter way outside the airport in Kabul is that it’s likely to draw an awful lot of unintended consequences in terms of people who, in fact, are not part of the Taliban. 


    As for stumpy and phil-if you're going to talk smack about someone commenting on current events you should at least keep up with what's going on....

    Blue skies everyone.

  3. 1 hour ago, billvon said:

    So you did make it up.

    Might I suggest that that's not the best way to come off as credible?

    I will answer this accusation...

    Actually I heard it out of Biden's own mouth at one of his "press conferences" in which he said operations outside the airport were not carried out-I can't recall his exact words, but were to the effect to prevent tensions with the Taliban . I can't find a link to it at this time, however I would offer this also.

    CNN’s Barbara Starr asked Milley pointedly if the U.S. military and international special operations would extract people from Kabul if needed.

    “That would be a policy decision,” Milley replied. “If directed, we have capabilities to execute whatever we’re directed.”

    When asked if President Joe Biden had limited U.S. military operations in Kabul to Hamid Karzai International Airport, National Security Council spokeswoman Emily Horne said that Austin had already described what the military’s mission is.

  4. 4 hours ago, kallend said:

    Nowhere in the article you linked does it say that Biden issued the order.


    You just made that up.

    he is the commander in chief for our military. though yes he probably doesn't even know what day it is. since you want to use "you just made that up" that standard would apply to most of the crap posted in the echo chamber here. I guess nothing has changed in here. Blue skies and carry on. Out.

  5. 11 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

    Thanks for the analysis. Do you really believe you have any clue what is actually going on? You know, like the whole geopolitical thing or what our military commanders recommend? 

    And you do? Then please what's your analysis.

  6. 14 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

    When and where did he say that?

    Got a story or a quote?

    Seriously, I did a quick search and came up empty.


    "He also credited active U.S. military personnel at the airport who, despite being ordered not to go beyond the airport boundaries, offered crucial assistance such as overwatch, and stayed in communication with some of the members of the “Pineapple Express” ground team. "



  7. 10 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

    Man, that sort of thinking is the problem. Biden did listen to his military commanders and they made their recommendations based on intel. What you want is after the fact fantasy. 

    The problem I have is when Biden ordered our military not to go past the airport perimeter. Commanders on the ground ignored that order/said FU or whatever and went out to rescue a group of stranded US citizens.

  8. 8 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

    Better how?

    Please be specific.

    Basic common sense...get US Citizens out first, then Afghan interpreters, leave thru Bagram airbase that is much easier to defend, destroy our equipment that you don't want to leave (including US military uniforms!) then the military leaves. Also just listen to military commanders and the intel. 

  9. 12 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

    Well he had to do something because:

    "trump also bears responsibility for having made it harder to evacuate tens of thousands of Afghans and their families who risked their lives working with the U.S. According to an aide to former Vice President Mike Pence, Trump’s immigration team went out of its way to impede the application process of America’s Afghan allies seeking asylum and to reduce the number allowed to come in via Special Immigrant Visas, which allow Afghans who risked their lives to support U.S. forces to immigrate. That undoubtedly contributed to the backlog that has slowed the evacuation process this month."

    Above from "The Afghanistan airport explosion happened under Biden but traces back to Trump

    After ISIS-K claimed responsibility for the Kabul airport attack, Biden blamed Trump for the chaotic withdrawal. He was right."

    The Taliban had already broke some of the terms of the previous agreement. In doing so leaving it open for Biden to change the way things are going to go. (Which Biden could do anyway) So enough already with everything is Trumps fault, how about looking at the guy thats there now and has the power to change things for the better.

  10. 5 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

     (make sure you understand that the whole shitshow falls on Trump, not Biden) 

    It just gets so old to keep hearing y'all say this. Biden has been in there for plenty long enough to change things. He already changed a lot of what Trump did just by executive orders. So NOW it all falls on Biden.


    So the local commanders on the scene decided to say FU to Biden's initial order for our military not to go beyond the airport perimeter. It's called leave no one behind. I applaud the commanders that made that decision! And we still have an unknown number of US citizens stranded behind enemy lines.

  12. I'm not back in the air yet-close! I finally got the second knee done 3 1/2 months ago. I've been going to every store that carries knee protection trying them on. Motocross pads are just too restricting for mobility. Mountain biking pads for XC and downhill are perfect protection- found the POC Joint VPD 2.0 Knee pads. I figure I need to protect the new knees from PLFs, banging on the door exits etc. not just packing. Plan on using the pads for mountain biking, and everything else too. Gotta make the new knees last till I kick the bucket! Take a look at them-REI usually has some in stock to try on. Hope this helps other folk dealing with this too!

  13. On 10/27/2019 at 7:33 PM, cdcollura said:

    I was told they have to extend the runway at Perris when I was last there in April 2019 before the jet can fly again.

    Runway has been paved/extended!

  14. Hi DaveL,

    I'm sure others will add their updates also.

    Ortho surgeries are still playing catch up on schedules here. I got back on the wait list within a month and a half of my first knee and I'm just now 9 weeks out from the second(right)  knee, and that was taking a cancellation. It's been 9 months since the left knee.

    The left knee is doing fine; 0 to 135degrees, no pain. But it is stiff every morning still and takes a few minutes of bending it to get going. It will also stiffen up if standing too long. If I keep moving then it works great. 

    The right knee that's 9 weeks out has been a lot more painful and a bit slower-still at 0 to 125degrees. 

    So at the rate things are going I figure it's going to be another 3 to 4 months before I can get back in the air. 

    With the way the first knee is doing I don't anticipate any problems skydiving again. 

    Now the way you describe your base landings that sure sounds like a no way again, but skydiving sure.


  15. I just read the letter in Parachutist criticising USPA for saying anything about a gray area when it comes to harassment on the DZ.  Since there's a lot of other old farts here that remember the past I'd like to hear thoughts on it. When it comes to staff, especially TIs and other instructors then yes, a strict no harassment policy would be best. 

    But what about the rest of the jumpers? I remember lingerie jumps, naked jumps and just jokes around the bonfire after too many beers...... 

    So would they want a rating holder (pilot) on a lingerie jump disciplined because someone was offended by it? I've seen folk (just other jumpers) on the DZ tell someone to chill out with profanity etc. because there's families/kids around so I think we've mostly self controlled the public behavior that hits inappropriate. 

    But does everyone now have to stop and edit what they say to their friends on the DZ  in case someone else might be offended by it? WTF?


  16. Hi everyone! It's been a little over 4 weeks now. I went home the same day on crutches.  I admit I underestimated this. I thought it would be like just another broken bone. Of course it didn't help that I had adverse reaction to a med(Mobic)-first week and a half until half the nights on the toilet with both ends blowin out at once-that sucked!

    It still hurts-hard to sleep. PT measured me at 126 degrees flexion and almost 0 degrees extension this week. I'm happy with that progress, but that 126 degrees is with a lot of pain to get it there.

    Any ideas on when I can expect to attain max flexion with easy pain free effort? I realize everyone's different but it would help me find realistic goals.

    Also how is it to kneel down for repacking your main?

    Thanks for all the help!



  17. Now I remember why I left SC before. There is no neutral exchange of ideas. I may think differently than other people, but I would like to know why we have opposing views. And that's meant in a trying to see/meet at common ground way.  

    BTW Billvon, I do appreciate your response. I've never been much on taking things at face value and I will dig into videos posted more. Wither on the news or otherwise.

    Just one question to ponder-who unfriends people that have opposing views? Would you not get on a jump with them because of it? Not have a beer with them at beer light?

    Later, I'm out of here. Carry on with your vitriol.

  18. I hope you're just trolling. Because if you truly believe what you wrote you're a prime example of the rabid people, and there are rabid people on both sides of the isle.

    Those videos have been in the news, not in a "dark corner of the alt right internet.

    Folk with genuine thoughts on the subject I would like to hear from. I guess I'm disappointed that everything in here seems to twist into polarized political crap.

  19. We can leave out swerving lanes to mention Trump....

    What makes me go WTH is when people are "talked into" kneeling down and apologizing for being white. I've seen it happen on videos and would really like to know the circumstances. Who what when where why? Is Robin Diangelo's book being used as a "script" by people out there?  Comes off as "cultish" to me.

  20. I've been watching the show on the NXIVM cult and was browsing on more info on cults and came across this.

    I found it interesting to read the comparisons. Thoughts? And to any scientologists sorry folks but scientology meets the criteria of a cult. Not all cults demand you end up drinking the Jim Jones brand of cool aid but it seems they all have some type of cool aid even though watered down from the Jones brand.