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Sorry, he knew about the Plame/Libby bs, and kept his mouth shut. Not exactly honorable in my book. explain. as far as i can tell, Armitage called Powell... Powell was called to testify to Fitzgerald's grand jury and was never charged. Here you go: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5570006/site/newsweek/ There's no indication Powell is a subject of the probe; the department official said the secretary never talked to Novak about the Plame matter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plame_affair scroll down to Richard Armitage...look, i'm no fanboy, and there's plenty of reasons to get upset with Powell (remember that nifty little vial he held up at the UN?), but I think you're off the mark here. Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

And then there are those on here who have actually been to Iraq and seen what's going on for themselves who have not allowed themselves to be spun into believing it's a quagmire. You are not one of them. I wonder why the Iraqi government thinks it necessary to do this, (since everything is so wonderful there): www.forbes.com/business/businesstech/feeds/ap/2006/09/15/ap3020534.html new and improved water system? could it be, *gasp*, we are actually spending some money toward re-construction? i say make a moat around baghdad. one drawbridge, and a dragon guarding it. that way, when the terrorists come, we can have the dragon breathe fire on them. surprisingly, as ridiculous as this sounds, it sounds similar to me, when i compare it against some of the public speeches from this administration regarding our "strategy" (or lack thereof) Cheney said, "I think things have gotten so bad inside Iraq, from the standpoint of the Iraqi people, my belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators." ... Asked if Americans are prepared for a "long, costly and bloody battle," Cheney replied: "Well, I don't think it's likely to unfold that way. . . . The read we get on the people of Iraq is there is no question but what they want to the get rid of Saddam Hussein, and they will welcome as liberators the United States when we come to do that." what i want to know, is who the fuck stole our damn "welcome to iraq" fruit basket... /i said something waaay back when in writing...and i'll say it again... //30 yr insurgency Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

Hurry up and wait, thats the name of the game. Pops taught me that well, and somehow I still do it to myself and others...though I've never had the (dis)pleasure of serving. BTW, Thanks for putting up with this shit. Stay safe and shoot straight out there ;) Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

well, it didn't take long, and it came from the lead chicken hawk himself: QUESTION: Mr. President, former Secretary of State Colin Powell says, The world is beginning to doubt the moral basis of our fight against terrorism. If a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and former secretary of state feels this way, don’t you think that Americans and the rest of the world are beginning to wonder whether you’re following a flawed strategy? BUSH: If there’s any comparison between the compassion and decency of the American people and the terrorist tactics of extremists, it’s flawed logic. It’s just — I simply can’t accept that. It’s unacceptable to think that there’s any kind of comparison between the behavior of the United States of America and the action of Islamic extremists who kill innocent women and children to achieve an objective. video here: http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/15/bush-powell/ you know, i really should be working, but shit like this just pisses me off to no end. 1 - it's a strawman, and 2 - argh...don't get me started... Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

It wouldn't surprise me either if he was welcomed by a moderate branch of the GOP. They'd be fools not to court him and those he influences. What would surprise me is if he was even remotely interested in political office again. You'll have to excuse my source, as this is all I really have time for at the moment http://teacher.scholastic.com/barrier/powellchat/transcript.htm Do you see yourself running for President of the United States in the future? I don't see myself running for President. I considered it several years ago, but decided that I would serve the nation in private life rather than political office. It is important that we do have people who are willing to serve in political office, and I'm glad that so many Americans do want to run for political office. It's what makes democracy work. But you really have to have a passion and a commitment to the political process to become a successful politician. Putting aside the fact that its from 2000 and the fact that it's an article geared at students, it pretty much sums up what I was looking for: Powell explaining that in order for one to be good at politics they must enjoy it and be passionate about it. He's never claimed to have that energy or passion about politics, and I think we can be fairly certain that his time with Bush pretty much ruined any chance of that passion ever developing. If you dig harder, you'll find other similar quotes. I was googling a phrase I thought I had heard him say, and although I couldn't find it exactly this was at the top of the list. FWIW, my father worked directly with Powell in JCS for a number of years. I had a chance to meet him and speak with him when I was in high school a few times, and at length at my fathers retirement. I don't think I've ever heard of, and had the pleasure to meet, a more honorable, intelligent, and respectable human being. I'd vote for him in a heartbeat, and I'd scream for others to do the same, but I don't think I'll ever get the chance. Kallend - not sure if you've read this yet, here is the full letter from all the retired generals and DOD officials: http://www.humanrightsfirst.info/pdf/06913-etn-military-let-ca3.pdf The list of signee's reads like a DoD Program Manager's rolodex...too bad they're missing the folks Bush listens to: Daddy, Karl, and Rev. Falwell Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

If I was a betting man, I'd bet the house on Powell never setting foot in a political office again. Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

7 months and counting I just don't have the money, and I wonder where everyone else seems to find it. Travel, Gas, Gear, Jumps, Coaching...I don't have the $ for any of it. Seems like every month I read another letter in the Parachutist about someone else dropping due to cost. I keep telling myself as long as I pay for the membership, take care of my gear, and genuinely want to come back - I'll get back in the air, someday. As for the near term, I work M-F and often on the weekends. I don't see anything in my future other than work (and again, I wonder how others seem to have countless hours to spend at the DZ) Good luck to you Grue, but I'd take 73 days over my 7 months in a heartbeat. Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

No, you are insinuating (sp?) that the person has committed a violent crime. Get off your high horse and remember that not everyone is you, or has your "values". I'm not talking about my alcoholic uncle here. I'm talking about someone having a child (who has severe health problems) who can not possibly deal with what the future will hold for them and the child. Your analogy is weak and hypothesizes that everyone is constantly "moving up" in the 'ladder' of life. Many, many, many people do nothing but move down the ladder, all their lives. God does not help me get thorugh my life. He is not my personal support system. I am just one person in this world, and there are many. Is your statement true for all people? No. In the real world, the world that exsists every minute of every day on every square inch of this space, people get through life whatever way they can Unfortunately there are a large portion of people in this world that don't benefit from paved streets and strip malls like you and I do... Your question makes no sense to me. People commit suicide for all kinds of reasons. I'm not so sure it has everything to do with "too much to handle" especially since we've already determined that "too much" for one person is "not enough" for another... I don't pretend to know what is going on in people's heads. This is one of the reasons I'm not going to sit here and call someone a murderer or 'manslaughter-er' (oo a made-up word!) for choosing to terminate a pregnancy. Since you realize you can't possibly know what's going on in someone's head, and we can extrapolate that to the fact that you don't know "everyone" and their "situation" why do you feel it neccessary to tell them how to live and/or make decisions? If you lack the required information (who they are, whats in their mind, and what's their situation) to make an informed decision on what is best for them (and the pregnancy) - how can you criticize their choice? The example about the cancer patient doesn't track for me. In this hypothetical we are affecting the life another (or future 'another') - the child. The cancer patient is only affecting their own life. Their decision to quit the treatment, or continue does not do the same amount of damage that a mothers decision would do with a child. Death is one of the most natural and regular occurrences on this planet. Everyday, everywhere we see it. In plants, animals, and humans. For some reason you associate the term Pro-Choice with death. I, on the other hand, associate it with Life. Bringing a child into this world with severe health problems, when you are not equipped or motivated to handle them seems wrong to me. You negatively affect the life of this child. If you really had the spine, you'd end the pregnancy and say something on behalf of the life you saved - the life of a child that would go through life with pain and frustration. I'm sorry that not every 'health problematic' or disadvantaged person will have your brothers life. Wandering around thinking that "wonderful things" are in store for every child that is born into this world (especially a child with severe health problems) is not logical. Simple probability and statistics will show you that your brother is the exception, and certainly not the rule. I'll say it again, people need choices in this world and in this life. You've already admitted that you can't know what's going on inside someone's head. I've illustrated to you that because of this, you should understand that you can't make informed decisions for everyone - especially in regards to a pregnancy. I'm sure you still believe that your values are correct and that each life is 'precious' Good luck to you in your crusade. For every one peson whom you talk to about this, I will do my best to talk to another and show them that you are criticizing their choices blindly and naievely. Understanding and open-minds are the way to move forward. Pro-Choice = Manslaughter does nothing for anyone. It only serves to ridicule and criticize where you should be focusing on listening and accepting. Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

I'm sorry, but that is one of the most ridiculous statements I've heard in awhile from a rational person about the term "Pro-Choice" I'd just like to repeat something that Wendy said that will hopefully highlight why I think this is ridiculous: I find your belief that "He doesnt give us more then we can handle, but sometimes he gives us more then we want to handle" to be naieve and un-realistic. This is a pretty big world we live in, with a rather large amount of "variety". Stating that all of us will never have "more than we can handle" seems completely irrational. If that were true, there would be no need for friends/family/support groups - we'd all be trucking along quite fine on our own. But we aren't. And we will never will be. People need options in this world and in their life. They don't need to be called murderer's for making a tough decision in an impossible situation. (such as this hypothetical). Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

ironic, because of the girls i've met who have had an abortion, and guys who were involved with girls that had an abortion, i've only met one who WAS suicidal afterward - and honestly, she was on medication fulltime well before the pregnancy. why can't the decision to terminate or abort the pregnancy include things like, "i can't support a baby with special needs" or something similar? seems wrong to expect a person to continue pregnancy if they find out the child will have severe health problems that will require in-home care 24/7 (or something similar), and that person can't manage that type of financial burden or personal responsibility. everyone's just human, and i don't think i have any right to expect a woman or a man to not stop a pregnancy where the child will be born with severe problems. this world is not an easy place to live, and it's getting tougher each day, and each year. bill is right, natural selection used to help keep the balance, but now, not so much. if our mentality is such that we do not recognize the simple truth that the disadvantaged in this world are just that, disadvantaged, then i think we are just fooling ourselves. i voted to terminate. YMMV /putting a child into a foster home or up for adoption that has severe health issues, IMHO, is worse than terminating the pregnancy. you've most likely doomed that child to a life of constant pain, frustration, and isolation. Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

Hey there...this sentence caught my eye as I read the thread and just thought I would drop an additional .02 into the discussion...(since im workin late this fri and takin a break) When I first started jumping, I would drive about an hour to the DZ by myself. I had no friends interested in jumping and, at that point, I barely knew who my Instructor was (it would change, frequently) or anyone at the DZ - I was an unknown. I've always been a music junkie - massive music collection, and the constant desire to 'turn it up'. (tons more to prove the point, but i wont waste the space here...) At the time I was making those drives and doing Tandems/FJC/AFF I would listen to the same dozen or so songs. I made myself a playlist I could get pumped to. I wanted something I could sing in my head, the whole ride to altitude. I wanted to look out the window and hear the electric guitar in Orion, note for note - so I listened to that song over and over on that ride. It worked like a charm. Everytime I hear some of those songs, especially Orion, I'm instantly transported into a C206 on the CA central coast looking down from 12K ft. The doors open, I'm sitting there Instructor in front of me...it's eye contact - out - in - off...I'm skydiving. I've thought about using my shuffle jumping a thousand times since those days. I've never done it. I doubt I ever will. Orion, and some other songs, are the soundtrack to my entire beginning in skydiving and I've told myself I'll never hear it in freefall or under canopy. I hate to take sides, but I have to agree with Ron on the fundamental: It's a risk not worth taking. YMMV, but that's my analysis. You can do all you want to mitigate the extra risk the music creates, but risk mitigation is never perfect. I'll stick with the tunes in my head, but you can be damn sure my hand will be on the volume dial back in the hangar...turning it UP! Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

i hear this site is an excellent alternate to imgshack/photobucket http://www.randomcrap.net/ also, if ya search around, you'll find some free hosting from co's overseas. now i might be wearing some tinfoil on my head here, but something tells me a .nl site (netherlands) doesn't have problems with obscenity laws... www.mediahump.com Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

get an IRA through a bank or financial institution. throw the 401(k) in there. max your yearly contribution every year to the IRA when it's tax time and you'll be a lot happier 10 or 15 yrs down the line. the money you'll pay in taxes now if you take it out is to much $$ in my mind to justify the vacation. remember the whole point of the 401(k) is to take pre-tax money and get it 'working' to earn interest. if the gov lets you take out that pre-tax $ before that magical date, they're going to ding you hard on taxes hell, i once i had a 401(k) from a previous employer worth about $1200 when I quit. new co had no options for me so i found an IRA through my bank, USAA, and dropped it in there. i must've spent 3 months dealing with all the paperwork, for $1200. i'd spend ten times as long for $10K, but that's just me - i'm a numbers guy and i'm tight as hell right now...so every penny counts...speaking of which, i need to clean the couch for pennies to get my rig repacked... YMMV. Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

The people at Jiffy Lube used to throw a fit when I declined all services except oil change. They'd say "Manufacturer recommends" and fail to mention that the interval was for hard service (towing, off-road, etc). I kinda irritated them when they were screwing over an older woman in front of me once. They upsold her over $400 in services on her car that only had 11,000 miles on it (e.g. coolant flush, tranny flush, some sort of battery service, etc). I finally stepped in and interrupted with "Ma'am, just get the oil change. Decline everything else. Tonight get our your service manual and find out for yourself when things need to be done." The next time I went back, I asked 'em to change my wiper blades, as I was heading over a mountain pass in the winter. They charged me for it...and when I hit the snowline I realized they hadn't done it. I squinted my way through it, got some refills at a dealer, and got a refund from Jiffy Lube when I got home. The next time I went back, the guy brought me my PCV valve. He shook it so I could hear the valve clinking back & forth inside and told me that meant the valve was broken. I told him to try that on someone a little less gullible and never went back. I don't like liars. Blues, Dave LOL, nice trick with the PCV valve... Myself I've been to a few JiffyLube's on CA central coast and haven't had much problems. There is the constant question of "tire rotation/fluid change" but a simple decline is enough to shut them up. Only once did I acutally purchase the 'upsell' - changing my cabin air filter...damn thing had dead bees in it...Really I haven't had any problems with oil changes for my Audi at JiffyLube, hell in this area I see MBenz and BMW on those lifts *all the time* But it only takes once...maybe I should hunt for a mom-n-pop shop near me... Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

Your presumtion about how Americans vs. the rest of the world get their news is fallacious. This is no longer the day when people only watched their own country's TV news once a day & only read the local newspaper. This is the Internet age, and has been ever since...well, ever since Al Gore invented it. You really think Americans only go to American news websites, while the rest of the world gathers their news from all over? Personally, I read BBC.com, TorontoStar.com, TheAustralian.co.au the Guardian and Times of London online a few times every week specifically because I want a non-American perspective to contrast with the US news sites I also read. I'm not trying to rant here, but I really doubt that the average person in, say, a middle-sized city in the UK, or Canada, or France, or Germany is all that better informed than the average person in a middle-sized city in the US. you don't have to do any of that, really, to get a 'world view' of current events. news.google.com hell, you can even personalize. it pulls from just about any newswebsite it can find. i see a story from Kuwait News Agency right there at the top... Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

Yeah, knowing the higher higher-ups that would be an exercise in futility. I have other plans in the works.

Yeah I know but its too damn expensive in Florida... If you live near a Univeristy/College of some kind, and you're about the same age OR don't mind living with students - you should be able to find something through them. Here in my area the Univ has a website, as well as free listings in the school paper - best way, by far, to find roomates. The classifieds have always yielded the crazies for me. Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

Sorry I don't have more time, but here's a quicky link to GlobalSecurity.org http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/hizballah-rockets.htm Lebanon has been flying UAV's into Israel for quite some time, and initially it was thought a drone attacked the Israeli ship: Hizballah seriously damaged a Saar 5-class missile ship named the "Spear" that was helping to enforce Israel's blockade of Lebanon on 14 July 2006. One Israeli sailor was killed and three were initially missing after the attack. Israel initially believed that an aerial drone armed with explosives hit the warship, but it became clear that Hizballah had used an Iranian-made C-802 cruise missile to strike the vessel. Another Hizballah radar-guided anti-ship missile hit and sank a nearby Cambodian merchant ship around the time the Spear was struck. Twelve Egyptian sailors were pulled from the water by passing ships. And everything you ever wanted to know about our UAV'shttp://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/systems/uav.htm Personally, I wouldn't give their UAV a fighting chance in the air against our latest and greatest. The UAV is a real popular system in the Army, and there is the plenty of fun stuff in the development pipe. Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

I know it's not "iron-clad", but something tells me the intel is more than enough ammo for our politican's and war-mongering leaders: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/hizballah-rockets.htm Some quotes for you: Iran appears to have furnished Hizballah with their unarmed Mohajer-4 UAV, which was flown over northern Israel on 07 November 2004 and 11 April 2005, both times surprising Israeli air defenses ... In October 2002 it was reported that Iranian Zelzal-2 short-range ballistic missiles had been delivered to Iranian Revolutionary Guard units in the Beka'a Valley in Lebanon. Israelis sources frequently claim that long-range rockets have been transferred to Lebanon, including 240mm versions of the standard 122mm 'Katyusha' rocket, and Iranian Fajr-3 and Fajr-5 rockets. The unguided Zelzal-2 ballistic missiles, intended to strike area targets such as communities and cities, are equipped with explosive warheads weighing up to 600 kilograms. The longer range rockets require some expertise to aim and use effectively, which may be beyond the capability of the Hizballah to operate without direct Pasdaran support in the field. And this, should give you some indication of what these rockets look like http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/mrl-iran-specs.htm Here's the way my warped little mind plays it all out: Israel continues to bomb Lebanon and Hizballah continues to rocket whatever they can. Next, Israel starts targeting supply routes into Lebanon. Intel starts building a case about where the supply comes from: Iran via Syria. Israel takes 'action' to prevent this (ground troops, air strikes, etc). Syria gets pissed and retaliates, either as a country/gov united, or as some faction inside Syria. Iran now has their excuse to wage war on the West and Zionists. Target: Israel and US interests in the ME. WWIII. /oh, and all the while, we continue to make zero progress in Iraq and Afghanistan //ain't life grand? the world is a beautiful place! Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

lol, yeah hence the need for the slash...i am not the person to be takin advice from...just another nut rambling incoherently. Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

Convenient usage of language - just by inserting one little word: "The". What a great example of how what the definition of "the" is really does make a difference. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols committed the Oklahoma City bombing. They were also Army veterans. Does that mean "the" Army veterans did the bombing? Lee Oswald (presumably) murdered JFK. He was also a Texan. Does that mean that "Texas" or "the Texans" did it? Do we paint all Army vets, or all Texans, with the broad brush of guilt? Of course not. One little word. Uh...not quite the same thing? Here, let me explain... (from the slate article I linked): In the Gospel of John, the phrase "the Jews" is used at least nine times to denote those who encouraged and assisted in Jesus' execution. In the Book of Matthew (27: 25-26) the Jews accept responsibility for the execution. When the Roman governor Pontius Pilate hesitates over deciding Jesus' fate, the Jews assembled before Pilate demand that Jesus be crucified, proclaiming "His blood be on us, and on our children." and a litte later... The small clique of Jewish authorities who were in league with the Romans does share responsibility for killing Jesus. But these authorities were distinct from the majority of the Jewish people, who had rallied around the charismatic figure. Thus some scholars have advocated substituting the terms "the authorities" or "the Temple leaders" for the collective term "the Jews" in the Gospels. suggest you bring up your edits about the word "The" with the Vatican directly, and the scholars they mention. so until man decides to change God's word (which is really what the bible represents, right?) looks like we'll be stuck with "The Jews" and your weak analogy. Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

I'm sure you know that even the Vatican has declared that's not true. but its hard to uproot something that has been drilled into people's minds for 2000 years. what do you mean by 'not true'? I'm not trying to nit pick here, but if my education serves me correctly (which it may not) in the 1960's or 1970's the Vatican said that it wasn't the Jew's 'fault' that Christ was crucified and that the world should not blame them. It pointed to the passage that said something like, "Forgive them, the Jews" bla bla bla. now to me, the Vatican is not saying, "The Jews did not kill Christ". The Vatican is saying, "The Jews should not be blamed for Christ's death." Those, are two entirely different statements, are they not? Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

emphasis mine, cause those are spot on. but i'd like to add one more: ... because they have no clue what they *really* want, and therefore want what they think everyone else wants (and what tv/ad's/radio/etc tell them to want): the bad boy stereotype honestly and truly, i have heard this basic idea out of the mouth of more than one southern california female: "It's just so cool that he and I dating now! I mean I know he was with [insert other female name here] but I heard from so-and-so XYZ drama story and he told me [insert line of bull$hit here]" It's exactly as NW is saying, the feeling of being 'special' being 'chosen' by someone or something that can 'have anyone'. It's too bad, really, because from the outside-looking-in its pretty clear that guy is trash and he's looking for an easy score. So congrats young lady: you're his bimbo for the month (or two) now..for the boring...this one makes me laugh. and i wouldn't have bolded it, if i didn't have a recent event come to mind...sitting at home, listening to the female roomate whine about the current b/f: "We do all kinds of things together, we just went to LA and bla-bla-bla but I really want something new, ya know? It just seems like there's nothing left - like all we can do is move in and get married now." Kind of a two-for in her rambling there about why she was done with Mr. Nice (she's now interested in Mr. Tattoo, as I like to call him), but the central principle still remains - bored as a result of no drama in the relationship. Where's the cheating? The fighting? The arguments about ex's, etc etc. This isn't like her OC tv show, or "The Real Housewives of Orange County". Hell it doesn't even measure up to her Mom who's up to her eyeballs in relationship drama as a result of 3 divorces...So to her, the relationship is pointless - it can't go anywhere but moving in and marriage. and finally, the bread and butter - the desire to have the bad boy stereotype because they have no idea what they really want anyway. it's just easier to want what someone else or something else tells me i should want. call it lack of intelligence on her part, or immaturity, or just laziness. whatever. results are the same - the girls get passed around like blow-up toys within the same clique of friends. each time the girl(s) get a new sob story and then move on to the next trend. to the angry and the frustrated: there is no light at the end of the tunnel. laboring under a false hope is a waste of energy. turn it into something productive. i've always been a big fan of apathy, though it can lead to negativity, ultimately some asshole tendencies. it took me awhile, but this was my epiphany: if you take the high road and you're a nice guy you can safely assume that you'll make 50-60% of the women 'happy' that you run into. the problem is this pool of women that is happy (as a result of your nice personality) may not provide you with the 'physical after hours activities' you are looking for. now, if you take the low road and you're a complete ass to women you can safely assume that you'll make a lower percentage of women happy, say only 25-30%. But, of that 25-30% you'll probably find a greater level of opportunity when it comes to the physical afterhours activities. so, think of your goal, and remember it's all in the numbers :) /dr. phil, i am not //a 25 year old hopelessly lost in the craziness that is the female mind, i most certainly am Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

At the risk of being extremely simple: http://www.slate.com/id/1007589 In a nutshell, the Jews helped kill christ. But if you want to go for the complex: http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Why_Do_People_Hate_The_Jews.htm Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell

agreed. the collective idea that is now Israel, was a huge f***-up in my opinion. but, since we're in this now, it's fairly easy to see why we're allied with Israel. Ever seen pictures? Visited, or known friends/family that have? It's the 'West' in the Middle East. A GWB would call it, 'a beacon of democracy' or whatever. The idea is, when they 'win' we 'win'. (what we win, is entirely unknown to me, but i am sure it will be something shiny) as long as we're still selling our weapons tech to Israel, the way we are now (and have been for quite some time), things should be just fine...especially after we're done selling a few of these: http://www.jsf.mil/ so the question is not, "why do we support israel?" but, "how can we increase our profits by supporting israel?" /supply and demand... Does whisky count as beer? - Homer There's no justice like angry mob justice. - Skinner Be careful. There's a limited future in low pulls - JohnMitchell