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  3. The little time I spent in England, only a handful of my jumps had less than double digit winds up top. Off that same object that I'm sure you visited, there was one jumper that would do a floating back flip when the winds were decent. He said it was good practice for 180's.

    Cheers
    Pat

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    On it I found a 2000' legal cliff in WY with a long approach, but an easy summit climb . Wondering if anyone has jumped it ?



    I'm game when do you wanna go?:)
    Amazing site with some very helpful people. Can't wait to get to some of these new exit points.

    Cheers
    Pat

  11. Skydiving is a great sport and I think it takes some crazy skills to do what some of you guys do and things can go wrong very fast while skydiving as well. Especially with some of the packjobs and tiny canopies I have seen ;)

    Skydiving training dedicated towards BASE is an invaluable tool any BASEr could use. But just jumping out of a plane does almost nothing to prepare you for what will be encountered. Most skydivers don't get on their risers the instant they are above their head. Actually my first few jumps through AFF I would instantly grab the risers and one of my instructors convinced me it wasn't necessary.

    Evading a canopy flying at you is a lot different than getting yourself turned around from a wall but you do need to react quickly. The thing is though the reaction is usually going to be different. When I am facing something solid I have drilled into my head to grab my risers and stall out the canopy then release one to get it turned around as quick as possible. It eats up a lot of altitude though. If I was facing a canopy I would correct to the point I wouldn't hit them (45 degrees tops especially if they are doing the same)

    My point is that you need to develop reflexes specific to the sport and unless you are doing drills for them skydiving doesn't help.

    Pat

  12. I am not so sure how much skydiving improved my reflexes. Unless someone is having a lot of mals in which they need to deal with them quickly or opening up in a cloud of canopies there is nothing that needs quick reflexes like is required to deal with a 180. Actually you don't need to do a anything for a couple of minutes if you open high enough. I've only had two openings facing the object and luckily both were on antennas with a little tail wind. Skydiving itself would do nothing for those cases as there is nothing in skydiving in which you need to deal with that type of situation and facing an object is my biggest fear in BASE. But as I don't skydive very much my opinion may be a bit biased. Now those crewdogs on the other hand...

    Pat

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    How about me getting on someone's back with my canopy out over the edge (my risers going over their shoulders) and doing a rollover.



    Might as well just go packed and dump after a second or two while the other person takes a healthy delay. Similar to what they do on the radix video. In Norway you could probably even land in water.
    Pat

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    The NPS regulation of hanggliding in the Valley is pretty strict. You couldn't just pick up a hang glider and go throw yourself off those walls.



    That is even better than the point I was trying to make. If they can regulate hanggliders and keep inexperienced people from flying why can't we do the same.

    Pat

  18. It seems as though a lot individuals have put effort into trying to legalize our NPs. What will be necessary is a large ongoing community effort. Our parks won't be freed overnight and I think we keep getting discouraged from continuing our attempts. How many people are writing their senators? How many people are applying for permits even though they know that they will be rejected. They can keep rejecting us as long as they want but I am sure the courts would find 1000 rejections without any granted to be a little unfair. There is most likely some people going through these efforts but many of us don't know how to help even if we could. Perhaps keeping a sticky of what actions we as a community can do will encourage us to stick with it. It may take 10 years of these efforts but it would be more than worthwhile if something works out. Our community is growing and with that our potential power is growing as well. The least we could do is give the NPS some more paperwork to fill out.

    Then again it is easier to just wait and hope someone else is fighting for us.

    Pat

  19. I have to agree with everyone. You are amazing. Those short ones are fun aren't they.

    I was curious about your goal to get the rest of the objects. Do you think it would be possible to somehow roll your cart off of some over hanging platform and PCA off them? Enough speed will give you object seperation and the PCA would hopefully eleminate snag potential. The only problem I could is if the front tires left significantly sooner than the back tires you would start rotating head down.

    Pat

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    "1) The reasonable NPS fear that legalized jumping will be abused again."



    I disagree that this is a reasonable fear. We lost these big walls before and I would hope that jumpers would do whatever they could to keep them legal. It is simple BASE ethics, don't put heat on any objects. Remember that jumping isn't allowed in all national parks so yosemite isn't the only place affected. And if people were to abuse it, I think I know where to find some tar and feathers.

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    "2) Fatalities and injuries will skyrocket because untrained and/or inexperienced people will want to do it"



    Darwinism. On a serious note though. Look at our European friends. They have a lot of nice beautiful objects that they are allowed to jump. I might be wrong but I don't think that a bunch of fatalities of inexperienced jumpers occured due to legalization. BASE is growing and there are some inexperienced jumpers refining their skills in areas much more difficult than some of these big walls. Our legal bridge is an awesome place for people to learn some skills before heading to the cliffs.

    As an aside. If I just picked up a hangglider and decided to throw myself off some of these walls without experience I would probably die pretty quickly. I am not a hangglider but I haven't heard of this being a problem and certainly not one worthy of keeping everyone from playing. Most people don't have a death wish.

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    "3) Increased traffic to exit points and landing areas are contrary to the parks' goals of maintaining a somewhat pristine condition"



    This might be somewhat true but this is where regulation is involved. You can't drive a truck everyone on national park land. I don't think you can even climb everywhere. But that still is not good enough to ban us from jumping anything especially since there are some trails that already lead to beautiful exit points. And if the park wants a somewhat pristine condition I hope they have removed the piles of cement boulders I have heard about. To me I think day hikers pose more of a problem than base jumpers would in this aspect.

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    "4) BASE will never be the same if it is"



    That is very true. We will have Europeans seeing how great our walls can be as well. I would love to be able to show some friends a stressfree time at the edge of some big walls at home. There is not much better than legal big cliffs with grass fields to land in. Much nicer than landing in the talus rock off things 1/3 the height.


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    "Interestingly, a side effect of this has been the development of the BASE ethics. Would BASE ethics be what they are now without NPS rules? Without the problems of trespassing and/or burning objects?

    I actually think that BASE would become something entirely different that the "long timers" (cheers to NickDG) would not like. Legalization means a destruction of your culture, folks. Many of the BASE ethics would be shot to hell because of a lack of necessity and a probable influx of new blood who don't need to follow the rules. In a sense, that would be tragic."



    Freeing our cliffs from persecution wouldn't change BASE ethics. There have been people that burned legal objects and there will always be a plethora of new illegal ones rising up. Legalization would prevent a lot of people from using substandard gear jumping in substandard conditions to be able to play on our own big walls. I think most jumpers would agree that they would prefer nice relaxed legal day jumps from our walls.

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    Note again, I am not a BASE jumper. It's only my perspective from a couple of years of following the sport. I hope you all tell me I'm wrong about everything..."



    I hope that I did just that. ;)

    Pat

  21. I'm moving to Missoula after thanksgiving. It would be great to hook up with some local jumpers or have some beta on some exit points. Thanks for any help

    Pat

  24. I'm making a trip to alaska from the 8th to the 23rd of july. I'm hoping to be able to make a few jumps so if anyone has any beta or if there are any locals to do a few flicks with please pm me. I will be in the Anchorage vicinity.

    Any help is greatly appreciatedB|

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    \ I don't like the idea of stalling my canopy with rear risers at all, I guess i'd take my chances with a little forward surge than stalling backwards, or sinking .
    ~J



    You must be getting good seperation to not mind a forward surge. I would prefer taking my chances sinking into the ground than bouncing off the object.