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That would have been 1973 and part of 1974. Jim T??? ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

As an example of how it might look, there is a page on Roger Nelson. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Nelson_(skydiver) ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

Well, it's been 40 years, but if I remember correctly there was a collar that wrapped around the lines when packed for terminal. This collar required a substantial snatch to release which is why it tended to bag lock when taken sub-terminal. Edited to add: I just looked at the packing manual linked to above (I've never seen one before as Billy Revis and Dan Steiger taught me how to pack one. The manual shows just one packing method using the collar (called "Bag Retainer Strap" in the manual). I'm pretty sure this is the strap we didn't use for sub-terminal deployments. Up thread, it was said that someone has one. I'd recommend checking with them on the packing method they're using before proceeding. ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

The only low pulling friend I ever had that didn't bounce (except Billy Revis). BSBD Scotty! ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

I have many jumps on both the baby plane and cloud. If you are going sub terminal, just don't use the collar and MAKE SURE YOU DON'T GO TERMINAL. The broken ribs vs bag lock issue is just this: 1) Pack for terminal and deploy sub terminal = bag lock. 2) Pack for sub-terminal and take it to terminal = broken something (depends on weight and luck). Converting to a slider is more work than it's worth for one or two jumps. Edited to add: As for the pilot chute, I've used 2 MA-1 and 1 MA-1 with pretty much equal results. I would think the alternate pilot chute will be fine as long as it has as much or more drag as a single MA-1 (pretty much a given). ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

That would have been the Cross Bow pig rig I believe, should have had one-shot capewells. I used one-shots my whole jumping career except when borrowing other's gear. I expect an near terminal opening on a round reserve with no diaper or bag would be sort of sudden... On my mal which was a Mae West, I opened my 26' conical within a few feet of my departing capewells, so didn't have much opening shock. Same on my intentionals, didn't want to take those reserves to terminal. ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

No, I drifted out of the sport in 1980. Yes, I knew Falcon and that photo may well be from Hinkley in 1975 as that looks like the Lodestar we took up there that year. ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

I got my number on a jump with FB#1 and FB#2 among others in 1975 at Hinckley. Alas, no camera man... ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

I don't know if they were the best days or not, but the most dramatic period IMO was about 74 to 78. That period marks the transition from military gear with round canopies to custom harness/container systems, 3-ring, hand-deploy (throw out now), and all squares. Glad I was there

Here you go: https://www.flickr.com/photos/16626901@N00/sets/72157648389633247/ ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

Yikes... Ok, I have them on my PC at home, just have to upload to Flickr and post the link. I'll try to get to it by the weekend, but feel free to keep bugging me about it if you don't see my post ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

Photo #23 is Charlene (Charlie) Moore, Ed Moore's wife at the time. ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

Pat, you MUST be retired by now, how about scanning some more photos for us (please, please)? ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

76 was the 102 teams. Participation began to drop off starting in 77. ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

I didn't count, but the stage was full for the photos. There are some photos on Facebook already and I'm sure there will be more. I took a number of shots, but have not done the download or post processing yet. When I get them done, I'll drop a link in here for you. Saw at least 10 FB brothers I hadn't seen in 38 years

Hi RR I did some serious research to find the answer to your question, googled it nylon was invented by Dupont? Late 30s went into production 1940 the mcnasties started the war in end of 41 so you bet there were nylon canopies in WW2. Maybe more nylon in use towards the end of the war. But there were also silk canopies, already in use, and in the pipeline. Talked with a man who saw a american silk parachute made into a dolls dress. and my dads Silk bed cover. Sorry don't have a clue of the percentage of silk vs nylon canopies or their pruction runs. But when you google silk parachutes you never know a German plane gets shot down over england only one parachute, all the village women grab something and go after the survivor. German sees the village woman, splits in fear of his life. Village women didnt chase after the dude they wanted the silk parachute. Cut it up and made silk knickers for all the women in the village. Silk had been rationed due to the war effort in england but whatever they were using as a substitute wasn't very popular. German nylon parachutes in WW2? Maybe but, it was a American product So many questions and such little time Cool story. It makes perfect sense that both materials were in use particularly in the first part of the war. Thanks for the research

Just curious about the construction of the canopy. One of the things that got me interested in parachuting was when I was about 10 years old, a friend's Dad gave us a parachute he brought home from WWII, a front mounted 24' bailout rig. The canopy was nylon though. Was there a mix of construction materials (IE: was silk still in use in WWII)? ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

I will be there. Didn't see this thread when I looked, but thankful that I did a search before starting a new one ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

I saw it on FaceBook as well. Those were certainly great times! ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

I bought mine from Mid Ohio Parachute where I bought all my supplies for rig building. There were only a couple of us at Z-Hills using them. Some thought they were dangerous and would release with just a knock, but they would stop half way open and you had to pull them near 180 degrees to actually release. I was jumping a lot of the early squares and liked the idea of a quick cutaway in case of a bag lock or other high speed mal. In 7 years, 1000 jumps and 3 cutaways (2 intentional), I never had a problem with them and would not hesitate to jump with them again though there is no reason these days with the 3-Ring. ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

I jumped (and used) One-Shots after I got off student status. Mine certainly didn't work that way... Just pull the cover all the way down and you were gone. I did 2 intentional (practice) cutaways and one from an actual mal with them and they always worked perfectly (and way faster than 1.5 shots). There were some who said you should pull them down to the cocked (half open) position and then slap them to the harness, but it just was not necessary. ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

And a nice set of photos too! I do remember seeing you at the Sod Farm, but I don't think we made any jumps together (but it was a long time ago). What did you use for the intentional cutaway? I used a Pioneer Pig Rig with a front mounted reserve for mine (I did two of them). When I had a real mal, it was "almost" routine... ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

I'll watch for your next post here :) ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

Caption is over the picture. The bearded guy is Greg Baker, another Sod Farm regular. The girl is Traci Trimble, sister of a good friend, but not a jumper. I'm sure I know you as well; any photos of you from that period floating around? ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519

Yes, I knew them both. Here is what I looked like when jumping at the Sod Farm (in fact this shot is at the Sod Farm): http://www.dropzone.com/photos/Detailed/Personal/Left_to_right_Roger_Clark_-_Traci_Trimble_-_Greg_Baker_110879.html ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519