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I missed something. All I've heard is that they have video and witnesses that the fellow failed to drop the weapon. I don't understand how it helps to hold the video though..... Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

All good and true points, as normal from you. I don't have a clue how to actually overcome these things. What really bugs me is that by and far (IMO) most LEO are good hard working people.....and obviously the black community is the same. While there obsoletely are some bad apples in both groups - the few are causing problems for the majority. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

You mean protesting peacefully - right? As far as burning buildings.....robbing.... you support these people going to jail? Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

Well addressing the title of the thread.... A certain element has "learned" that a good riot is great cover for robbing and stealing. While we may not shoot our way out of THAT problem (we shouldn't)...I disagree that we can't arrest the people that cause destruction and robbery during which are otherwise peaceful and constructive protest. Be interesting to see how many people who were charged after the Ferguson riots..... Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

I think I have come to crux of the problem, if the following it true: 1. LEO as a % of population deal with people of color on a more regular basis in violate situations. 2. This emotionally trains the LEO to be more aggressive with people of color because LEO are humans to and although "part of the job" can be occasionally getting your ass beat...they naturally enough don't like that. 3. As a total population of people of color the % of violate, thugs is very, very low. LEO are much more likely to confront a very reasonable person of color - BUT - the survival instinct tends to minimize that fact (to a degree) I don't have a clue how to fix it. We generally don't pay our LEO well....and I wonder if that impacts the level of ability. As far as the people that use this as an excuse to rob stores they should just go to jail..... Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

Yeah, my whole point was just how HAPPY a extra hour off on Friday made everyone. It open my eyes. We get 18 days off a year, plus the 7 standard holidays...... I'm absolutely sure that IF I had said "everyone can take the hour off without pay" 95% of the crew would have. Once people feel they are being paid fairly, benefits are in line....then I understand time off becomes the next big deal. I set someone off about mailing the check home - be actually I really want to figure out how to give more paid time off - within the ability to take care of our customers and grow the company. Sorry....talk about thread drift. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

Tell you what. I'll let everyone read this.... And they can figure out who full of what and who can and can't read.... Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

Perhaps I wasn't clear? The regular work day at my office was 8:30 - 5:30. The new policy I spoke of allowed everyone to leave at 4:30 on Friday - but there pay didn't go down. If they were hourly I paid them the same 40 rate. How can that not be "paid time off"? I'm guessing the "everyone got paid the same" wasn't enough detail for you. Not that it matters but my younger employee's would probably go out and find another job....and my older ones would enjoy life - I'd bet. My average tenure at my company is over 14 years so people tend to come and stay. I'm not angry I just don't like people to accuse me of "disingenuous bullshit" because they have a reading and or comprehension problem Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

What the hell crawl up your butt?? I was simply pointing out that paid time off is a great motivator. Go have a drink/jump or do both but chill. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

Realizing that mine is a small company (30) but last year we added free dental to the company plan....$250 month for perfect attendance (monthly)....and everyone was happy. But when I announced that we would close every Friday at 4:30 (hour earlier) and everyone still got paid the same.....everyone went WILD. Paid time off....really motivates people.....now if I could just find a way to stay profitable and just MAIL a check to everyone's house without them working I would be real popular Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

See Mark that's the problem. I bet you and I could agree on a lot of things that could be cut. I know you to be a reasonable fellow...... I don't have a mortgage now so I'm all in favor of getting rid of the mortgage deduction. Kids are grown so let's get rid of that deduction. I don't believe that we need any new aircraft carriers - so cancel that. Here's a great one. In WWII the government started a program to help wounded vets (head injuries) to get educated. Fast forward to 2012....my daughter who had a minor learning disability (she will graduate in Dec with a 3.9 gpa) received a complete year tuition paid for by the government. Think about it! You basically had to be shot in the head to get the help...in 1944....to a minor learning issue in 2012. It ONLY ended because they started means testing the program!! I'm all for helping people....certainly the people of need but the standard on need - needs to be looked at. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

Yeah it is Mark.... For example interest deduction on a house loan..... that sure doesn't seem fair to people that don't have a house. I can go on but I think you probably understood the point I was trying to make man. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

John did you bother to even look at the link? No. Look at the link read and get back to me. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

That's just not true. While the rich have gotten richer the middle class is taking it up the butt. The stock market is up but many people don't have tons of stocks. I don't know where that's coming from. I happen to be white but I am being honest that I haven't been thinking remotely that. Many Americans are worried about the amount of support that be paid out to people. No it isn't that we don't believe in welfare but the entitlement society we seem to be heading towards. The lack of people being able to take responsibility for themselves. The idea that having a baby isn't a personal responsibility. The idea that a women shouldn't be in control of her on body is nuts - but somewhere we lost the idea that a women is also responsible for her body. For many Americans it seems that there are two groups the haves (rich) and have not's (poor) - we are worried about the ability to move up. And my favorite (this is personal to me) I am tired on one party saying pay my fair share when in total I'm close to 50% taxes...and that particular party wants MORE. They talk that they will get BP.....but they end up getting me. And for the 1,000th time - I am NOT a Trump supporter, nor Hillary. I don't suspect you will hear a good plan come out of either of them. My sorrow is Gary Johnson won't even have a real chance to present his idea's. (They may not be good - I've read what I can though) Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

[/url]http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/09/20/racial-profiling-cnn-falsely-accuses-trump/[url] Deleted the word "bomb" when Clinton spoke when everyone was criticizing Trump for jumping the gun.... Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

*** Soon your National Nightmare will be over. The whole world will breath easier when this cartoon charade is done *** That's were your wrong. Yes I believe Hillary will win. Gary Johnson won't get in the debates and even if he did I doubt he would get a lot of traction. But our "national nightmare" will not be over and it won't be NOT because Hillary got elected. While the "world" may hate Trump (I don't like him) these people that support him now aren't going to just fall in line. The discontentment will continue to grow. Trump wasn't the right candidate but for many of us Clinton wasn't either. While you may sleep better with Hillary (can't say as I blame you) many of us here in America don't like the direction of our country and that won't change. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

*** Why is accurate reporting losing "the moral high ground"? *** John when a "news" source ADDS words - or deletes words (as they did for Hillary) you call that ACCURATE reporting? Basically your saying that they can actually modify a quote to fit a predetermined narrative? It's fine to say we think Trump is a bigot - but to change a quote???? Even you know that's bs. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

I know....I know Fox sucks..... But CNN sure seems to be in the tank for Clinton. Adding "racist" to a comment from Trump..... The press has lost the moral high ground Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

"And now of course, knowing almost nothing about the criminals or organizations involved yet, Trump declares war on Islam:" I don't like Trump....he's an asshole, I dislike H.C. as bad or worse. I'll prob go with GJ wish he could get in the debates...having said that.... It's getting to be serious b.s. when we have an attack and the same old people here and in the national news flip tits when someone calls it what it is and calls it quick. Here's a hint. When there are bombs exploding in public area's it's a damn good bet it's terrorism. And for the people that bring up Timothy McVeigh....he was a Christian (supposedly but totally an asshole) and he was put to death. I know that when (and it will happen) someone other than a Muslim blows something up the far left will just be pissing in their pants....but lately it's BEEN the nut case Muslims. No it ISN'T all the Muslims but can't you fellows just acknowledge that by and far it has been? End of rant. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

You have to hand it to her she keeps trying..... Sure seems that she is close to the end of her rope. To our legal eagles..... When does she have to pay Mile Hi? Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

I don't give a damn which "side" you are on....this is funny. 100% spot on. Oh the left will spin it "not as important" ect, ect........ But FUNNY Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

100% Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

Really? A concentrated country wide effort, strongly and often supported by our President? Hours and hours of discussion on TV shows? How about Hollywood, hear a bunch from them? I think not. Look I'm all for taking steps to prevent these things. Personally I believe that if you carry a weapon as a LEO you should have body video and it BETTER be on. But eliminating 100% of ALL LEO shooting of ALL blacks (some I think we can agree are justified) won't change the fact that the most common way for a black male to die a violet death is at the hands of another black male. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

I get your point Mark but there seems to be a lack of balance that may not bother you but it does me.... Take Ferguson......pretty much when it was all said and done we find that was a justifiable shooting. Look what happen because of a few people not telling the truth up "His hands were up" Freddy Gray isn't looking all that promising also. I'm NOT saying these shouldn't have been looked at HARD. I'm just say that a far larger problem is being ignored. It doesn't make sense to me. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

That's the most insane statement I've heard. All the hysteria about the number of blacks killed by LEO........is NOTHING compared to the monthly number just killed in Chicago. Your a very frequent poster here.....find me a thread that anywhere as long and as detailed as when a white cop is involved in a killing of a black man. Ferguson.....post after post after post .....hundreds. Now show me the post where all my liberal friends discuss as emotionally the black on black murder rate. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little