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Posts posted by Andrade1812

  1. 9 hours ago, FLYJACK said:


    I predict a narrative based on a missing person from the NE who worked in a titanium machining environment who got road salt on his tie... That means Cooper was a no pull near TBAR on the Western Flight Path and best of all, it can't be proven wrong. Ulis spins the wheel in the Vortex another time.

    Interesting. I went through the NamUs database, didn't see any new matches, not from New England anyway.

  2. 2 minutes ago, FLYJACK said:


    Eric Ulis finally admitted what everyone else knew,, Sheridan Peterson wasn't Cooper.




    Didn't you post information showing Cooper had nicotine stains a few months ago?

  3. 6 hours ago, Coopericane said:

    Anyone else read that new D. B. Cooper story on the forum? It's interesting but to me it seems to be trying a little too hard to check every box. Sounds fabricated or at the very least overly indulgent with some of the details to me. I think if any of the story can be verified though it might be worth a closer look.

    Could you please summarize it for us?

  4. Chauser, It would be nice to have those calculations from Soderlind or Tosaw's notes from that interview with Soderlind. Otherwise, all we have are the FBI search zone maps, and none of them include the Columbia from what I can recall.

  5. I was willing to push the jump zone very far south until I saw one of the reports that Fly should be able to find of Rataczak's ears being popped by the jump, and that was associated with the 8:10--8:11 time frame.

  6. 12 hours ago, Coopericane said:

    Thanks. This guy and the Shelton one are really interesting to me and I appreciate your previous write-up on them. Here's hoping we learn more about both of them in the future...

    I and a few other guys are trying to identify these two people. If we can get their names... well, that'd be huge. We're hoping to find local sources in Shelton and in Egg Harbor.

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  7. 15 hours ago, Coopericane said:

    Hey, I know Martin Andrade reads this board and he is looking into the Egg Harbor suspect, so I thought I would ask here if he (or anyone else) can compile the new information about the EHS from the latest 302s? I first heard of him from here and it seems like we have some new info - I am pretty sure the same guy is mentioned a few times in the latest release, but I am not very confident in my ability to interpret the files accurately.

    There were some new details about EHS, the biggest was his release from TWA after the hijacking and his lack of an alibi during the hijacking... We think.

    The files are so heavily redacted we can't be sure. It also appears as though they had EHS' work, military and education history as well.

  8. 2 hours ago, RobertMBlevins said:

    We're not talking about what investigators believe. Many of them involved in the case either have their own favorite suspect, or they have personal issues going. That is easily proven. 

    It's not whether Cooperland believes KC is Cooper. It is what can be proven, and where the truth is. It is the only thing that matters. The sheer volume of personal attacks only proves they are worried. There's nothing like investing years of emotional garbage in a single point, and then finding out you might have been wrong the whole time. 

    Ask him. 

    So you don't know? I'm confused...

  9. The FBI couldn't *prosecute* the case, but that doesn't mean they didn't solve it. Based on what I'm seeing it looks like they believed they had a suspect they thought was Cooper, but couldn't prove it in court.

  10. 1 hour ago, RobertMBlevins said:

    These so-called 'file releases' by the FBI are so heavily redacted as to be nearly useless. Pretty much anything you could use to identify a particular suspect, or a witness, or any relevant facts...has been edited from the documents. 

    I have learned three things from reviewing these documents. 

    1. The FBI was heavily focused on the idea for years that Cooper was a regular skydiver who probably had a favorite dropzone. It never occurred to them that because Cooper was dressed so poorly for the jump, that Cooper might not have been a 'regular' in the skydiving world. 
    2. Everybody and his brother thought they knew the identity of Cooper, and the FBI was absolutely flooded with tips. Too many, in fact, to properly investigate. One after another, names (redacted, of course) come in, and one after another they are dismissed. They wasted their time chasing one dead end after another, all without result. 
    3. Because of all this, even if they had received a tip that turned out to be valid, the FBI probably would have missed it anyway. I think they actually got used to the idea that the tips were mostly a waste of time, and this tainted their approach to suspects. After so many false leads, instead of investigating each one as possibly valid, they would look for the easiest way to eliminate that suspect...and move on to the next twenty tips or so. 

    In the end, the FBI missed the most important clue of all. Who would be the kind of person that obviously knew how an NB-8 container worked...but who also came so poorly dressed for the occasion? To me, this points to a guy who had military jump experience, but had not jumped as a civilian, and had not jumped at all for a long time. Yes...that description *could* fit Kenny Christiansen. But it could also fit just about any veteran of a paratrooper company over the last twenty years PRIOR to the hijacking. A middle-aged man, with obvious experience in military jumps, (Mucklow testified that Cooper seemed to know what he was doing when he put on the parachute) who drank, who smoked, and who dressed like he didn't have much money for a decent wardrobe, even to do a most dangerous jump. A guy who said he wanted to go to Mexico, but knew the Pacific Northwest fairly well, and how to get a jet to fly as slow as possible...but got off the ride less than an hour after the takeoff from Seattle. 

    Cooper was a middle-aged guy who never saw a dropzone other than a military one, had not jumped in quite some time, and was desperate for money. Cooper never had the slightest intention of going to Mexico, or even Reno for that matter. He just said that to throw off any possible search, and probably didn't know that the crew...even if they were made to stay in the cockpit...would be able to figure out approximately when and where he jumped. The FBI had him pegged as a civilian jumper, which means they proceeded from a false assumption right from the start. If he had been a civilian jumper in his mid-40's, he would have at least worn the proper shoes. He would know to do that. This crime almost sounds like a guy who had been pushed to the edge by circumstances, knew how to use a chute but nothing much about crime, and his plan was probably hastily thought out over a period of no more than a few weeks prior to the crime. He was the luckiest guy on the face of the planet, and should have been caught, but wasn't. 

    There is a lot of valuable information in these documents, especially in regards to the named suspects like Duane Weber, Rackstraw and McCoy. There is also a lot of information on the "unresolved" suspects like the Egg Harbor Suspect and the Shelton Lead, but you have to read through the documents and the redactions to find it.

    To say that less information is better than more information is to confuse the distinction between the signal and the noise. More noise is fine, if one can find the signal contained therein.

    #57 had more information on one of those unresolved suspects, and was of great interest.


  11. There is a very specific description from Rat somewhere in the FOIA docs where he talks about his earpiece falling out and getting a pop in his ears from the pressure change as Cooper jumped. Between that and the FDR, it's highly unlikely Cooper jumped farther south.

  12. Fly, maybe you can assist here. How many parachutes are mentioned in the FOIA files? I know of one north of the Lewis River, the one on the S. Fork Lewis River, and the Amboy chute. I know there were others, did you keep track?

  13. 9 minutes ago, ParrotheadVol said:

    So, I'm asking this simply because I don't know the answer. I'll leave all of these diatom scenarios up to those who know more about them than I do. But if the money was in the bank bag, would that prevent the money from having the diatoms? I guess what I'm asking is this: Is it possible that the bank bag went into the water in November, and at some point the TB money came out of the bag in the spring time, thus accounting for the diatoms? 


    I would leave the final answer up to Tom, but based on the conclusions in his paper, that scenario doesn't work. There is a distinct disconnect between the timing of the hijacking and when the TB money is exposed to the Columbia river. They are different events.

  14. The dredging timeline doesn't fit the diatom analysis, unfortunately. Which means the money has to be out of the bank bag and fanned out, in the Columbia, in June.

  15. Even if a senior FBI agent thinks a particular suspect is Cooper that doesn't really mean anything. There is an FBI agent who thinks Sheridan Peterson is Cooper. Another says he shot and killed D.B Cooper decades ago (Richard McCoy). Curtis Eng ignored Tom Kaye's forensic findings and focused on LD Cooper until that fizzled into nothing. Himmelsbach may have at one point been convinced by Jo about Duane. FBI agents are real people with differing opinions and are fallible.

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  16. In the end, we'll be getting even more documents from the FBI. I've heard estimates as high as ten years to get the entire investigation to the public. If the penultimate or ultimate case agent thought they had a likely suspect who happened to be deceased, we'll know eventually.

  17. We really need to interview Carr or any of the other Case Agents at length about these issues. How did these transitions go? was there any meaningful transfer of knowledge? etc.