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  1. 1 hour ago, theplummeter said:

    Its been moved to March 20th according to the delusional wacko I work with that tracks this stuff. He also let me know that I should "be ready to hold the line" whatever that means.

     

    Wow. 

  2. Ok.  So, March 4th is winding down to a close, and the former placeholder twice-impeached president was not re-sworn in.  The Qcumbers' final prediction is just as baseless, fraudulent, and desperate as all the rest of them.  While this should be the death rattle of the conspiratorial movement altogether, I have a feeling we'll be seeing these marks stick around for a while, wringing their old, white hands while telling ghost stories around virtual campfires of satanic pedo torture porn that trump almost exposed because that's the only exciting thing left in their miserable, bigoted existences.  

  3. 1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

    Just what policies did Trump enact to abide by the Paris Agreement?

    Why are you shifting the goalposts?  Literally what you posted was incorrect.  We did not leave the Paris Climate Accord until the day after Trump lost the election.  I pointed out that you were incorrect.  Can't you admit that you just plain had that wrong?

  4. On 1/23/2021 at 4:13 PM, brenthutch said:

    Fun fact, our CO2 emissions were lower after we left the Paris Agreement than while we were still in.

    2017- 5131 million tons 

    2015- 5263 million tons 

    The United States filed its intent to withdraw at the earliest possible date, on November 4, 2019. After the one-year period, on November 4, 2020, the U.S. formally withdrew from the Agreement, coincidentally on the day following the 2020 U.S. presidential election.

    So, yeah...your post is bunk.

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  5. 6 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

    Please, for your own safety do not try to live your life like mine. God has a unique plan just for you. The key to finding it lies with Jesus Christ as the gateway.

    God has allowed me to seek the danger of crises. For in danger there is opportunity.

    To quote Dr Hawkins again, A+B does not equal C. A,B, and C manifest congruently within a given paradigm.

    What in the actual [fuck] does any of this have to do with what I posted?  I mean, seriously...what [part] of your [ramble] was relevant?  I added some unnecessary brackets in there to try to write in a way that [appeals] to you.

    Also, Ron, I'm an atheist in case I haven't been crystal clear about that in past threads.  If Yahweh exists and wants me to know, he'll know exactly how to convince me of his existence.  Trust me when I say that you're failing if he's chosen you to be his mouthpiece to bring me into the flock.  Further, even if this were to happen (it won't), I would not follow his edicts due to his shitty morals.  

  6. 6 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

    I look for things to keep me occupied until the big event. Q keep occupied, excited, and fascinated for almost three years. I thank God that He gave me that blessing. Now I will look for something else.

    Along the same lines, when I got saved I asked the Lord to make it possible for me to earn my Gold Wings. He allowed me to earn Gold, Diamond and Double Diamond. Of my 3,078 jumps I paid for about 300. I thank God for that blessing as well.

    When you learn how to expand and elevate your consciousness life becomes more dynamic and blessings flow. IOW, things tend to happen for you instead of to you.

    So the issue I have with this response is that it seems like you're saying the Q(uackery) was like your version of professional wrestling; it was entertaining, so who cares if it's all fakery?  But you're failing to acknowledge and come to terms with it being actually fake.  I don't know a single person who thinks that WWE is real - they're content to say "Ok, well, it might be staged but hey those guys do get real banged up in the process." But they don't live their lives, alienate their communities, shoot up pizza parlors, or storm the Capitol based on the fantasies that entertain them. 

    You completely lost me (and I'm pretty sure the entire room) when you tried to link this to how you got a bunch of free jumps.  There's no connection there, but maybe that's just a side-effect of your credulity in making nonsense connections, similar to the Q crap. 

    As for your last line, you should know what a "deepity" is in your line of work.  It's basically baffling with bullshit, in case this is a new term for you.  Life is dynamic.  "Expand and elevate your consciousness" is a catchy buzzword way of saying you think you've got some secret the rest of us don't have, but you're going to be super duper vague to the point where you're saying nothing at all.  And whether things happen for you or to you is a simple mindset change in positive thinking.  No mystery to it, Ron.  You might have those "double diamond" wings, but your philosophy is "bar napkin" at best.

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  7. 4 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

    As it pertained to what I wrote, I think so.

    I mean, c'mon Ron...I'm certain you'd find a welcome reception if you just outright said "Hey guys, turns out I was hoodwinked by some bullshit that was conjured up to cater to my deep-seated fears that stem from latent racism which was likely ingrained in me from my youth due to the times I grew up in."  

    It. Was. All. Bullshit.  The whole time.  We all knew it, and now you know too.  As painful as it is to run into this metaphorical wall, it's time to admit that you got played.  

  8. 11 hours ago, billvon said:

    Dude, Trump was president for four years.  He's stocked the government with his own people, many of whom are criminals.  He calls in favors.  He bribes people with money and power.  He appoints his own children to lucrative government positions.  He promised people things and then gave up on them as soon as he was in office.  He golfs more than he works, then brags about how hard working he is.  He uses the power of his political office to shirk responsibility (and culpability) for his crimes.  He funnels tax dollars into his own businesses.

    He's the ultimate Washington insider.

    But But But!!! He doesn't take a salary! /sarcasm

  9. On 11/8/2020 at 1:15 PM, RonD1120 said:

    That is one of your most foolish positions.

    If Q analyzers can't speak there is no way I can respond or share.

    Funny quote I pulled from a NYT article about how Qcumbers are flailing in grief/disbelief right now.

    "On a recent day, there were fewer new posts on one of 8kun’s QAnon boards than on its board for adult-diaper fetishists."

  11. 20 hours ago, richravizza said:

    Just call me a lier, it requires fewer words.

    While your at it, tell me what you really think of me.I won't ban you, turn off my notifications or call the speech police.I'd invite the moderator to stay out of it so we can use some profanity.You see, i've been called every name in the book.So have at it.

    In return I'll tell you my jape about the cold war,I never shared with you last year, same narrative, Trumps a racist.

    I find it interesting no one asked me what were the core American values, we're bonding over. Racist and the Alien.

     

    I'm legitimately trying to decipher the last three sentences in your post.  Can you rephrase them?

  14. 9 minutes ago, Westerly said:

    And here we have the definition of a snake oil salesman. It's interesting how people can be so naive as to support someone who's actually working against their best interest. But what can I say, people are gullible, dumb and lazy. They believe what's easy to believe and what sounds good.

    Hang on - did you mean me?  Because what I wrote was (I thought) clearly satirical.  Well, not satire, really...more like casting shade on the veracity of the story that was originally fabricated...errr...told by rich.

  15. On 10/25/2020 at 5:34 PM, richravizza said:

    Phill the election was determined in July when the country was wracked with left wing BLM violence.

     For ten years now, on the 3rd of July I'm invited to the back of the property.Under a shade tree, Lupe' and his crew of roofers, all undocumented immigrants in one way or another, offer me some Carne Asada and cold Cervezas.We celebrate the Birth of America the land of opportunity.They love to here about US history as it pertains to Mexico.The freedoms and rights not afforded to Mexican nationals at the time.

    As We tapped our bottles to America and I pressed the cold bottle to my lips.(not sexual) One asked in broken english.Do you agree with the demonstrations ? the riots? the fires.

    Trying to hold back an explosion of beer and laughter,I reluctantly replied not to offend, "well, not really". 

    "Oh Good cus, We No Like". I responded in kind, "Welcome to the Republican Party." we laughed and drank.

    Then something magical happened,as it does every year, we bond over core American Values.

    I explained there's a political party that wants them to believe, America is 

    "A Nation of One Hundred Tribes" and what do you get, waring tribes.

    The other party wants you to believe we are but  "One Tribe, of a Hundred Nations".The American Tribe.

    Phill the latino vote is going to be stronger than you think,as for the black vote

    don't believe everything you read. 

     

    And then a little girl, no more than 6 years old, began to clap - tears of joy streaming down her face.  She pledged her life in that moment to Donald John Trump's every desire.  Everyone else began to clap.  The trees clapped.  A beautiful moment.

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  16. I saw something on twitter that made me laugh.  Can't seem to find it again, but it basically said Joe should've started every answer to a moderator question with "Well, Chris, that's the $750 question, isn't it?"

     

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  17. 20 hours ago, billvon said:

     

    To prove it, he recently stumbled eight feet down a ramp with someone holding onto his arm.

    Or there was that meandering stroll a couple months prior to his Walter Reed emergency where he aimlessly trudged around, ultimately finding his way to a sad puddle - effective metaphor for his "leadership" of the United States in the last ~4 years.

    And his cultish supporters have the audacity to suggest that Biden is sundowning...

     

  19. (RNS) — It’s a rough time to be a pastor. An election year, national racial unrest and a global pandemic each challenged the usual methods of ministry. Taken together, many church leaders are facing the traditional post-vacation ingathering season with a serious case of burnout.

    But there’s another challenge that pastors I spoke with say is on the rise in their flocks. It is taking on the power of a new religion that’s dividing churches and hurting Christian witness.

    Mark Fugitt, senior pastor of Round Grove Baptist Church in Miller, Missouri, recently sat down to count the conspiracy theories that people in his church are sharing on Facebook. The list was long. It included claims that 5G radio waves are used for mind control; that George Floyd’s murder is a hoax; that Bill Gates is related to the devil; that masks can kill you; that the germ theory isn’t real; and that there might be something to Pizzagate after all.

    “You don’t just see it once,” said Fugitt. “If there’s ever anything posted, you’ll see it five to 10 times. It’s escalating for sure.”

    RELATED: Don't be fooled by QAnon’s post-apocalyptic fury. It’s really spiritual hunger.

    Conspiracy theories — grand narratives that seek to prove that powerful actors are secretly controlling events and institutions for evil purposes — are nothing new in the U.S. But since 2017, a sort of ur-conspiracy theory, QAnon, has coalesced in online forums and created millions of believers. “To look at QAnon is to see not just a conspiracy theory but the birth of a new religion,” wroteAdrienne LaFrance in The Atlantic in June.

    Named after “Q,” who posts anonymously on the online bulletin board 4chan, QAnon alleges that President Donald Trump and military officials are working to expose a “deep state” pedophile ring with links to Hollywood, the media and the Democratic Party. Since its first mention some three years ago, the theory has drawn adherents looking for a clear way to explain recent disorienting global events.

    Once the fascination of far-right commentators and their followers, QAnon is no longer fringe. With support from Trump and other elected officials, it has gained credibility both on the web and in the offline world: In Georgia, a candidate for Congress has praised Q as “a mythical hero,” and at least five other congressional hopefuls from Illinois to Oregon have voiced support.

    One scholar found a 71% increase in QAnon content on Twitter and a 651% increase on Facebook since March. 

    Jon Thorngate is the pastor at LifeBridge, a nondenominational church of about 300 in a Milwaukee suburb. In recent months, he said, his members have shared “Plandemic,” a half-hour film that presents COVID-19 as a moneymaking scheme by government officials and others, on Facebook. Members have also passed around a now-banned Breitbart video that promotes hydroxychloroquine as a cure for the virus.

    Thorngate, one of the few pastors who would go on the record among those who called QAnon a real problem in their churches, said that only five to 10 members are actually posting the videos online. But in conversations with other members, he’s realized many more are open to conspiracy theories than those who post. 

    Thorngate attributes the phenomenon in part to the “death of expertise” — a distrust of authority figures that leads some Americans to undervalue long-established measures of competency and wisdom. Among some church members, he said, the attitude is, “I’m going to use church for the things I like, ignore it for the things I don’t and find my own truth.

    “That part for us is concerning, that nothing feels authoritative right now.”

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    A DEMONSTRATOR HOLDS A QANON SIGN AS HE WALKS AT A PROTEST APRIL 19, 2020, IN OLYMPIA, WASHINGTON, OPPOSING THE STATE’S STAY-AT-HOME ORDER TO SLOW THE CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK. WASHINGTON GOV. JAY INSLEE HAS BLASTED PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP’S CALLS TO “LIBERATE” PARTS OF THE COUNTRY FROM STAY-AT-HOME AND OTHER ORDERS DESIGNED TO COMBAT THE SPREAD OF THE CORONAVIRUS. INSLEE SAID TRUMP IS FOMENTING A POTENTIALLY DEADLY INSUBORDINATION AMONG HIS FOLLOWERS BEFORE THE PANDEMIC IS CONTAINED. (AP PHOTO/ELAINE THOMPSON)

    For years in the 1980s and ’90s, U.S. evangelicals, above nearly any other group, warned what will happen when people abandon absolute truth (which they located in the Bible), saying the idea of relative truth would lead to people believing whatever confirms their own inward hunches. But suspicion of big government, questioning of scientific consensus (on evolution, for example) and a rejection of the morals of Hollywood and liberal elites took hold among millennial Christians, many of whom feel politically alienated and beat up by mainstream media. They are natural targets for QAnon.

    There’s no hard data on how many Christians espouse QAnon. But Ed Stetzer, executive director of the Billy Graham Center at Wheaton College, noted that distrust of mainstream news sources “can feed a penchant for conspiracy theories.”

    A 2018 poll from BGC found that 46% of self-identified evangelicals and 52% of those whose beliefs tagged them as evangelical “strongly agreed that the mainstream media produced fake news.” It also found that regular church attendance (at least once a month) correlated to believing that mainstream media promulgates fake news (77% compared with 68% of those who attend less regularly).

    Jared Stacy said the spread of conspiracy theories in his church is particularly affecting young members. The college and young adult pastor of Spotswood Baptist Church in Fredericksburg, Virginia, Stacy said some older members are sharing Facebook content that links the coronavirus to Jeffrey Epstein and secret pedophile rings. He says his and other pastors’ job is to teach that conspiracy theories are not where Christians should find a basis for reality.

    “My fear … is that Jesus would not be co-opted by conspiracy theories in a way that leads the next generation to throw Jesus out with the bathwater,” Stacy said, “that we’re not able to separate the narrative of taking back our country from Jesus’ kingdom narrative.”

    Others are concerned the theories will become grounds for more mistrust. “Young people are exiting the church because they see their parents and mentors and pastors and Sunday school teachers spreading things that even at a young age they can see through,” said Jeb Barr, the senior pastor of First Baptist Church of Elm Mott outside Waco, Texas. He said conspiracy theories are “extremely widespread and getting worse” among his online church networks.

    “Why would we listen to my friend Joe … who’s telling me about Jesus who also thinks that Communists are taking over America and operating a pedophile ring out of a pizza restaurant? … Why would we be believed?”

    But Barr and other pastors I spoke with are reticent to police church members’ social media conduct. Instead, they try to teach broader principles. “Christians are meant to be agents of hope, to be peacemakers; the Bible says we’re not to be quarrelsome,” said Barr. “We’re not to be the ones spreading fear and division and anger.”

    Barr also teaches critical thinking skills and encourages his members to read “boring news.” He will recommend news sources that are credible.

    But teaching media literacy isn’t enough, precisely because QAnon thrives on a narrative of media cover-up.

    Fugitt said it’s not effective to tell conspiracy spreaders that what they are sharing online is false. “Nobody joins a cult. I don’t think anybody shares a conspiracy theory either because they believe it’s truth.” Rather, he tries to address the dehumanizing language of QAnon theories that equate certain people with evil. History is replete with examples of where such language can lead.

    “I can’t hate another person, but boy if I can make them less than human, that’s the Crusades, that’s Jewish persecution throughout history, that’s racial issues hand over fist there.”

    In a fraught political moment, the pastors I spoke with worried that taking on QAnon, by addressing politics directly, would divide the church.

    But QAnon is more than a political ideology. It’s a spiritual worldview that co-opts many Christian-sounding ideas to promote verifiably false claims about actual human beings.

    QAnon has features akin to syncretism — the practice of blending traditional Christian beliefs with other spiritual systems, such as Santeria. Q explicitly uses Bible verses to urge adherents to stand firm against evil elites. One charismatic church based in Indiana hosts two-hour Sunday services showing how Bible prophecies confirm Q’s messages. Its leaders tell the congregation to stop watching mainstream media (even conservative media) in favor of QAnon YouTube channels and the Qmap website.

    And it’s having life-and-death effects: It’s hampering the work of anti-sex trafficking organizations. The FBI has linked it to violence and threats of violence. And its adherents are downplaying the threat of COVID and thus putting others’ lives at risk.

    The earliest Christians contended with syncretism in the form of Gnosticism, which blended elements of Greek philosophy and Zoroastrianism with Christianity, emphasizing the good-evil spirit-flesh divide as well as secret divine knowledge (Greek: gnosis is “knowledge”). Early church fathers such as Irenaeus and Tertullian battled Gnostic ideas, rejecting them as heresy.

    At a time when church leaders are having to host digital church and try to meet members’ needs virtually, the idea of adding “fight heresy” to their to-do list might sound exhausting. But a core calling of church leaders is to speak the truth in love. It’s not loving to allow impressionable people to be taken in by falsehood. Nor is it loving to allow them to spread falsehood and slander to others.

    “Conspiracy theories thrive on a sort of cynicism that says, ‘We see a different reality that no one else sees,’” said Stacy. “Paul says to take every thought captive — addressing conspiracy theories is part of that work.”

  20. Yeah so right out of the gate: fuck pederasts.  Throw them in the wood chipper.

    That said - people are increasingly failing to distinguish between pedophilia and pederasty from my subjective observation based on increasing social media content about this topic lately.  One is a thought, the other an action.  

    Thought crimes are not crimes.  If they were, I'd have been thrown in jail for thought-killing a thousand people.  

    The dumbing down of America is a problem.  Words matter.  When you hear the word pedophile, you should not automatically assume that person has committed a sex crime against a minor.  There are likely deep issues that need to be tackled with the help of a competent psychologist, and in some few cases, as Wendy said, perhaps isolation is the only viable option. 

    Imagine the horror you'd have, if you were one of those people, at the thought of seeking help when you have a huge majority of the population that doesn't know or care to make the distinction between the two words.  

  21. So...anybody who wants to claim that Biden is in cognitive decline while simultaneously ignoring the many signs that Trump is suffering from frontotemporal dementia needs to do just a wee bit of homework and watch the presser that Biden and Harris did today, and then immediately afterward watch a playback of Trump's presser.  Or switch the order - it doesn't really make a difference.  Fatilities?  Don't give me this "misspoke" excuse either.  He said it twice.  And what's with the slurring?  At best it's like watching a 3rd grader read a book report in front of the class when everyone knows damn well he didn't read the book.  0 days since Trump has been a national embarrassment.

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  22. 8 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

    Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

    Wendy P.

    It falls so flat every single time conservatives try to be funny like this.  One of my favorites lately is Brent Terhune.  

  23. On 6/13/2020 at 6:58 PM, wolfriverjoe said:


    Or the way Trump elevated KJU's status. Essentially ensuring that North Korea will never give up it's nukes. Calling a murderous despot a 'great guy' and fawning all over him. Giving him the prestige of a one-on-one sit down with the President of the US. 

    Don't forget: he "fell in love" with him too.  Blech...

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  24. 19 hours ago, BIGUN said:

    Ummmm. No. Because Tony is talking directly to Turtlespeed. Not about him to the room like you are doing. Again. Nor, did I imply you were a racist. I [specifically] said that you were acting like the cops with their bullying attitude. One of the primary factors in cyber-bullying is talking about someone in the room without their knowledge. No different than talking about someone behind their back trying to garner favor with the rest of the room to elevate their own status.

    If you have an issue with someone - talk directly to them. Not about them.       

    I won't hold my breath waiting for you to call out everyone on here who says something about Ron without directing their comments at him.  After all, you seem intently laser-focused on me.  Almost like...I dunno...a bully?