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Long toes are always a threat. They need to be stamped out. $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

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Mel, you're describing parameters associated with heading sensitivity rather than heading accuracy. Smaller, faster, more reactive will lead to faster offheading openings. Accuracy, or rather minimizing the median angular displacement from the desired opening heading is what you want. A big heavily damped system which opens the same way ragardless of other factors would be the ideal. Starting to sound like a big canopy? Maybe. Of course, heading correction ability is at least as important. If you do open off heading you need a reactive system to give you sufficient correction speed. What a cunning web of intrigue we weave... Holiday fun, one and all. $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

Who's the skinny chick in the back row on the right? $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

That's almost on my doorstep ie local object and to rub it in it was a dayblaze. If I find that guinea pig I'm gonna melt candle wax all over it. Cavey bastard. $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

And mine hit the mailbox yesterday. What a guy! Thanks bro'.

Dayam! Go Faber. I almost fell for the Huckstable post but as everyone knows the McConkey was invented by that little homo who used to snowboard so how could it be you also? Or are you that paraglider pilot who really did it first? I'd have called it a Bisley since his wasn't a one shot deal. $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

I think I understood the post as it was intended. I didn't take it as disparaging, I took it as highly ironic and very sad. It also made me think of Miles in a different light. How harsh must it have been to be in Miles' position that night? I don't know if that deserves to be called famous but it sure deserves something. I sure feel for Miles after reading that account. $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

OK, let me see if I have this straight: the hypothesis is (supported by some observations apparently) that smaller canopies inflate quicker. this makes total sense from a purely applied mathematics point of view, since: -surface area is a 2nd order function of linear size -volume is 3rd order function of linear size SO, the bigger the canopy, the smaller the surface area to volume ratio, and since all the canopies' volume has to be filled through the surface areas of it's openings, it's easy to see why a smaller canopy, assuming an exactly scaled down version of the larger design, will inflate quicker cheers sam The inflation rates will not necessarily be the same. Both canopies are subject to some constants which are independant of the canopy size (pilot weight, accn due to gravity, air properties). You said you were assuming an "exactly scaled down version". Does this not imply that due to it's larger openings that the larger canopy could accept air at an increased rate and therefore pressurize in the same time as a small one? I doubt that the models give you identical geometry either. Why would a 220 stay the same shape in flight as a 280 with the same pilot? He gained no weight for the big canopy. Why should he dangle the same? This lends itself to Tom's wingloading discussion. The hypthesis as stated is not supported by the observed data. It has failed to be rejected as a result of the obervations. That's a very important distinction. This is way too heavy for this early in the morning with this big of a hangover. Maybe I'll dabble in the numbers now that I can no longer walk. $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

I'll bet you're right, young fella m'lad...begs the question "how many 180s are voluntary"? What exactly does a visible wind current involve? $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

What? You have PCP and you ain't sharing?? You deserve to have your leg gnawed off, by rabid homosexual baboons Too late...still have the left one...baboons had to split...address under separate cover...feeling weak... $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

I've heard someone jumps from the RayL...etc....ad infinitum It's a video...it already happened...if it's even in there...just watch it and chill out. Please don't start another thread on that... It'd better have some nekkidness in there... $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

I think you're right, Tom (can't vouch for the 0.5 figure) but the relevant factor is related to the ability of the falling body to overcome wind resistance and thereby induce an effective relative airspeed. What the split is, I don't pretend to know. I have a gut feel (like most folks) and since this is based on empirical observation I tend to think it's fairly accurate. I wouldn't use it to predict performance where what happens in the next 30 feet matters since, as you so rightly say, other factors may have the greater contribution. Bottom line...your mileage by analysis may vary resulting in severe death and horrible dismemberment or glory and stardom. Think about that on your next sub200 footer. My fucking leg is killing me. What's up with that? $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

Have you figured out the difference between red and purple? Good rigs..suitable for the colorblind. $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

Nice pic. Who's the chick with the small rack? BTW, if you're gonna jump this bridge please don't exit from the RayL. This has to be the only thing in from France with a big deck. Bon soir mes petits pois, $cumbag $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

Wingloading also matters, in my opinion. Opinion or fact? You may be right but wingloading as a parameter hides a multitude of sins. It is calculated simply in terms of area, mass and acceleration but it's effect on canopy performance is non-linear so as an engineering coefficient it has about as much use as a chocolate condom. It gives you a flava but it provides no protection (I believe that's original. Royalties required for use.) Also, the speed of inflation is dependant upon size (unsure if this is area or volume related for the purposes of this discussion - I guess it depends on whther you are considering bottom skin inflation or full pressurization) and rate of inflation. The rate of inflation of the bottom $kin will be proportional to airspeed raised to a power that I can't be bothered to consider right now. The pressurization rate is proportional to relative forward speed (again raised to a power - probably squared but don't quote me today. I can't be arsed to think about it), size of vents and tons of other stuff that I can't be bothered to think about. Bottom line without thinking too hard...off heading openings due to differential inflation rates are initiated by events / conditions rather than properties so to say that a larger canopy is inherently more prone to off headings is only valid in the context of empirical data from a high level rather than from theoretical analysis (if indeed you have this data and you trust it's validity). I'd contend that fat jumpers with big canopies are just more fucking clumsy. I'm on vacation for a coupla weeks now so I may do some analysis and try to figure this out. On the other hand I may just smoke some PCP and gnaw my own fucking leg off. Both sound pretty good. Trust this bores the living shit out of you. Festive cheer to one and all... $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

All good questions to ask while you're at the top looking down with the canopy still on your back. Post exit? Like I told Johnny Utah...I'd do the same thing as I would do at 1:50 am in a night club...go for the big ones. $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

Sorry but please try not to confuse everyone by posting relevant to the original thread. Talk about a curve ball! $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

Yuri pursed his lips, clenched in his butt cheeks, flicked his hair back over his left ear (with his right hand) and said... "I agree with you, most base jumpers (in US at least) are in poor physical shape and really cannot be called "athletes".". Being a bit of a dumbass I had to look it up.. Main Entry: ath·lete Pronunciation: 'ath-"lEt, ÷'a-th&-"lEt Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Latin athleta, from Greek athlEtEs, from athlein to contend for a prize, from athlon prize, contest : a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina I'd say we are extreme athletes. Yessir, indeedy. We just suck at it with the exception of a few of the buff boys. Is not your 500lb lard ass Sumo an athlete? Hell, they almost fit the etymology perfectly. If they were Greek they'd be a pair of big, fat, Greek, semi-naked, cat fighting fighting bitches which I believe is word-for-word the definition that Webster gives for Greco-Roman wrestling. The defense rests... $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

I disagree with your second point. I think it's painting BASE in this light which makes it look "kewl". I think these shows are the reason that many new jumpers are inspired to take their first huck. Your first point gives me pause...If they're not extreme athletes what are they? What do you think of as an extreme athlete? How do you see the jumping population split up? What are the categories? What I was clumsily (and drunkenly) trying to say was that the media would eventually be so desensitized to BASE casualties that it would quit making the news. We already get [mostly] negative attention by the media. You're right. It was pretty entertaining as a show in and of itself. There was little depth or insight to it though. Hence the MTV accusation. $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

I've heard enough good stuff about Jeb to think that this must've been a media highjack. I trust the people I know to relate accurate info (which has all been good) regarding Jeb so I'm not making this out to be comparable to RedBull$hit or anything like that...Don't get the wrong idea. My mind is already made up in that regard (unless I experience otherwise first hand). For those who would suggest jealousy being the reason for my post, just remember that if Jeb and I changed places he would wind up a hell of a lot better looking (if a little shorter). I guess I'm going to be in the extreme minority when I suggest that this show was $hite. What else can you expect from an hour long show which attempts to delve into the psyche of a jumper. In just 1 hour? Talk about a cheap ride? This was MTV type bull$hit at it's most egregious. The photography was awesome but the pretext that BASE jumpers are bad-ass athletes is just too much of a horse's cock to swallow. Wannabes please form an orderly line at the pair of pink neon pants on the corner. Fuck FJC's. No more extreme athletes are required at this point. We have enough to paint the sidewalk red at this time. Try out next year, darling? Where will this end? Perhaps it's best if we have a huge influx of new jumpers who go in with such enormous frequency that the media ceases to be interested in it. That may avert a lemming like massacre due to the newly inspired, skydive free, "I've high-dived" / "been a gymnast" / been on a FJC so I can base jump, newbies. Darwin may only be a theory. Please don't participate in it's becoming a law as a result of watching this crap. It's only eyecandy. And if you want to launch a personal attack as a result of my post...just remember...Ray Losli thinks it's ok to jump off the rail at the IBP. Discuss.... The pot has been $trirred. $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

As satisfying as it is to read the tear-jerkingly beautiful bickering on here recently (which is often my fault), I still need a few minutes here and there to salve the soul. Relief came to me in the form of a yellow envelope yesterday. Being a really mean, obnoxious bastard, I couldn't help but offer to buy Mac's (BASE813) copy of Groundrush upon hearing him declare that his situation was causing distress now that he's less liquid than he once was (a very temporary situation, I hope). It was, as usual, more of a joke than anything else even though I didn't own a copy myself (not for want of trying). [That's an English humor thing - take someone you are genuinely fond of and reward them by being as much of a bastard to them as possible. Genius really and good for a laugh although it's probably gonna result in your throne resembling a red hot spike in the afterlife.] Imagine my surprise when upon hearing my plight, Quickdraw comes to the rescue by releasing a carrier pidgeon containing a half eaten ham sandwich, a used condom (I think it was a condom, I guess it must have shrunk in transit) and a copy of Groundrush. But wait...there's more (cue Ron Popeil's fat "brother in law"...why does he want us to believe he's related to all those imbeciles? I'd be tying those fuckers up and hiding them under the bed if they were related to me...except for the fit chick with the big jugs in the red sweater...Ron's "daughter"...yeah right...I can guess how she earned her set of 149 various steak knives made of real german (?) steel...she obviously let Ron use the incredible new flavor injector on her. If you look closely you can still see some "flavor" hanging from her ear (what Ron lacks in chrisma he makes up for in range)...Where was I (damn good coffee...does coffee normally come in crystals?) Oh yeah... The book had a postcard of a famously low indoor S/L jump from 'Tain't Small's Church in Blighty tucked deftly between it's perfect pages and...still more...It was signed by none other than...you guessed it...Dad & Morag (which as everyone knows is Jakey's Nom de Plume). Now that's what I call looking after your BASE bro's. Quickdraw and I have never actually met. I have the distinct feeling however that he's the kind of guy who would pick your broken ass up and get the hell out of dodge if so required. What a cracking bloke! I also have it on good authority that he's never jumped from the RayL ( - I just thought of that...not bad, huh? I claim credit and want royalties for it's use) Thanks Adrian. You're a good man. Some goodies will be starting the return journey tomorrow by way of a real thank you. My faith in humanity is restored. Chin, chin, $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

What makes you think she stopped? I've been beatin' it like a hostage. $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

Only if you rig it correctly, right on. I know Brits, I'm picking. But this forum is aimed at newbies so all the experienced jumpers (you included) need to ensure your responses, if technical are correct and exhaustive. This is the main reason I hardly ever post technical threads. I'd hate to think that I was responsible for poor info cos I only have a few (drunken) minutes to spare to write a below par response. Your post would've raised no eyebrows on the BASE board. I've been thinking recently that maybe the more experienced jumpers may be a part of the problem for the newer guys. Half the time our posts don't stand close scrutiny unless you already have a certain amount of familiarity and expertise to follow the threads closely. Perhaps we assume too much. Perhaps we should keep these threads on Blinc? In the interests of keeping this a newbie thread and therefore less deeply technical...how about you and me gettin' it on sometime? I'll be thinking of you in the men's room. $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.

Not irrelevant. Delay is never irrelevant. Physics says otherwise. Try holding onto your canopy when you throw it out of the window of your SUV. Tough huh? Now try it on your skate board. In a 3 second delay you could've chained that bastard up and it would've opened. Ok, not really...but you get my drift. It would be pretty complacent to believe any aspect of a jump is irrelevant. BASE is about reduction of variation. Consistency is the key. If you can truely eliminate variation then BASE is truely safe. Black rubber has been around for ever. This wasn't the first time this has happened. I have tons of this stuff on video. This was (as usual) a number of contributors stacking up but for every contributor to disaster there is an appropriate countermeasure which was lacking. Throw 'n goes will always be an increased risk (how much I wouldn't try to quantify but more risk is worse)due to the relatively small forces involved. I'll jump the black fukkers on a terminal jump any day (although I still wouldn't recommend it...right tool for the right job). Throw and go? No thanks. Grow some hair on your chest, Jedi. 2.5 to 3 seconds will keep you alive longer from this big stuff. Hurling on launch is never guaranteed to be the most expeditious method for extracting your canopy. The quest for increasing snatch doesn't mean we're looking for more basejumping chicks (no more hate mail please. That was another joke) Stay safe $kin. Prizes to anyone who gets to read my posts before Mr Aiello's son, Tom deletes them.