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Posts posted by Westerly

  1. ah yes another variant. dont worry, there will be 50 more to come i am sure. i am fairly confident there is no one on this forum that will live to see the day that covid goes away.

  2. 9 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

    I have two family members who are alive because they did not wear a seat belt. I still wear a seat belt...every time.

    lol what does that even mean. How do you know they would have died if they would have worn a seatbelt? i have been in a vehicle that was completely underwater and fully flooded. I was still able to get out of the seatbelt and swim to the surface. 

  3. 5 hours ago, wmw999 said:


    When you consider the potential of unknowingly spreading the disease to someone who is not as robustly healthy, and is impacted by the disease they caught from you (the rhetorical you -- I don't know your current condition), then the desirability of vaccination increases hugely.

    You incorrectly assume antivaxxers care about any of that. Most probably havent even considered it because they are too busy arguing points about how natural immunity is the best immunity, the vaccine hasent been tested well enough, and Covid isint that big of a deal anyway.

    I think it's safe to say if someone isint concerned about covid enough to get vaccinated to protect themselves, they sure as hell arnt going to do it for someone else.

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  4. On 11/9/2021 at 8:15 AM, gowlerk said:

    Probably the very best thing that could be done is to put you in charge of everything. You always seem to have all the answers

    Yea you're right because you know everything that's been going on for the last two years has been nothing but back to back slam dunks. We keep nailing it every time. Thanks for clearing that up. I may not have all the answers, but I know what the answer is NOT, which is pretty much everything that we've done so far.

    i called it early on that the vaccine testing was a waste of time and we should have gone right to market. In the end I was the only person this forum that was actually right. No major safety issues were identified in any of the trials (which made them a waste of time) and more than 100,000 people died that could have been saved if we went right to market with a note that it's experimental and take it at your own risk.

  5. The best thing at this point is for the feds to jack up the prime rate. like way way up. then all those people taking out huge loans wont be able to do that anymore which will reduce purchasing power on big ticket items. it would also bring back those 4 and 5% APR money market accounts we once had. interest rates are way too low at the moment. they should be double or triple what they currently are.

  6. 14 hours ago, winsor said:

    The endless references to 'science' are more reminiscent of Thomas Dolby than Louis Pasteur.

    It would be refreshing to have data to support the various stances, hopefully correlated with a vanishingly small P value.

    Enough of the papers I've come across indicate that the mRNA vaccines are both leaky and allow further spread of infection at a pace identical to that of the unvaccinated.  Hardly 'the most effective vaccines ever developed in human history.'

    The hysteria surrounding the pandemic seems to be augmented by the Dunning Kruger effect, if anything.




    Yea and are those ‘papers’ you’re reading postings on the comments section of Fox News? 

  7. 9 hours ago, winsor said:

    If the vaccines were anything as effective as everyone hoped, herd immunity would be a reality.  As it is, it is not even a consideration at this point.



    They are more effective than predicted, a lot more effective. They were one of the most effective vaccines ever developed in human history actually. The problem is 45% of the entire US population is still unvaccinated and probably only 25% of the world population is vaccinated. That's kind of a problem when trying to get to herd immunity... If all this antivaxxer bullshit would cut the shit and get with the program, the virus would be extinct in the USA by now. I hope the vaccine mandates and restrictions for the unvaccinated keep piling on. The more pressure to get people to listen to science instead of Facebook, the better.

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  8. Just drove by a NorCal station. Premium was $7.39 a gallon. Just the cost of food increased 20% in the last few months. Rent is up 35% over one year.  Mind you this is coming from an already expensive cost of living as baseline. Who could have saw that coming…..(everyone

  9. covid has become the largest scapegoat for blaming your lazzyness in the history of our human race. there are still many people working in critical jobs (e.g. doctors, social workers, unemployment adjusters) who refuse to see customers in person. just trying to get an in person doctors visit can still be hard at some places. they continue to blame it on covid, but of course that's BS because at this point if you're vaccinate you have zero to worry about. vaccinated people are basically completely immune from death by covid except outside seriously ill patients. so at this point the real reason why they dont want to return to work is they just dont want to work at all. they want to continue being lazy at the expense of those who need their services.

    Moderator warning - Westerly often posts misinformation about COVID-19.  Reader beware.

  10. 10 hours ago, wmw999 said:

    I spent the morning touring the US Library of Congress. Looking at the recreation (so far) of Jefferson’s library, and considering that honest research into many western histories would have to include books in it gives one an entirely different perspective on the word “research.” Because in order to know when to start you have to have some idea of the boundaries. 
    If you’re helping to establish the boundaries, you still have to have some idea of the old ones. 
    I just don’t thing googling cuts it as anything other than picking a random direction much of the time. 
    Wendy P. 

    every book in that library has been digitized and can be found on google. you dont need to read any books, you can read a computer screen.

  11. There should be no religious exceptions for anything under any circumstance. Everyone has an equal right to practice their religion so while you have every right to believe in a specific religious belief, others have an exactly equivalent right to refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of that belief.


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  12. 2 hours ago, wmw999 said:

    I’m just wondering how many people who say the vaccine was developed too quickly will be all over the new almost-approved just-developed medication that supposedly reduces the likelihood of serious illness. 
    Wendy P. 

    The requirement for which should be a vaccine. Sorry, you turned down the vaccine? Sorry, no scientific medication for you. You'll just have to sus it out with some O2 and a bed. Certainly no loss to society. If Covid was an engineered weapon, it was engineered to kill the most stupid of us and it's doing a fantastic job doing that.

  13. 5 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

    Hi Westerly,

    And, as the non-vax'd die off, we get closer & closer.

    Jerry Baumchen

    Yea but if we play it that way, by the time everyone gets infected we will be on COVID-27. It will just be an endless loop of new variants reinfecting over and over. I say drop the hammer hard. No vaccine = no service & no job. You can order your crap on Amazon and start your own online business. No BS religious exemptions either. The Pope got vaccinated along with nearly all of the high cardinals.... Talk about a mic drop...

  14. On 9/29/2021 at 12:31 PM, headoverheels said:

    It's behavioral. FL's vaccination rate was slightly above US average, nearly the same as CA.


    And the fact that 50% vaccination is not enough to stop or even slow the spread. We need a lot more with Delta. Most experts say around 90 - 95% is require to kill the virus off.

  15. Well looks like Delta is on the way down. Cases are already down 250% where I live. So end of the 3rd wave and then another lull until the 4th wave starts. It's just going to be like this forever. 4th wave, then the 5th and 6th and on and on until everyone is either vaccinated or infected. Of course if the vaccine ends up evading vaccines thanks to endless mutations, then we start back at square one again.

  16. On 8/30/2021 at 4:42 PM, billvon said:

    Yep.  Something tells me if they administer it, and the patient dies, the judge will go all Sidney Powell.  "Well, any competent doctor would be smart enough to not listen to my nonsense!  I mean, what sane person would take me seriously on medical advice?"

    Doesent matter, a doctor would still need to prescribe and approve it, and no judge can directly order any single doctor to prescribe anything. Only medical professionals have that legal authorization. The medical staff could easily respond that they are not legally authorized to prescribe that and if the court wants it administered they will need to administer it themselves.

  17. 11 hours ago, GeorgiaDon said:

    It is quite legal to put a surcharge on health insurance premiums for behaviors that have a significant likelihood of raising health care costs. 

    Actually it is specifically illegal. There are only three factors that can legally be used to decide your premium: location, age and smoking status. Not even gender can legally be used to determine premiums. This was one of the largest changes imposed by the ACA when Obama signed it. The original premise was to prevent women from being charged more just because they were women (e.g. increased costs for childbirth) and charging people more because they were sick. So the ACA specifically coded what factors insurance companies could use to adjust rates and adjustments by any other factors were outlawed. So no, in fact, you cannot be charged more because you're a higher risk, unless it's by age, location or smoking status. It's literally a federal offence to adjust premiums based on other factors. That's why when you go on the ACA's website to get a quote for an individual plan, the only questions they ask you are your zip code, age and smoking status. Nothing else is asked.

  18. On 8/25/2021 at 1:19 PM, ryoder said:

     then why has the anti-vax crowd not raised a big stink about the vaccination requirements to go to public school in the US?


    They did, and some still currently do, just they lost that battle a long time ago so they have moved onto wars they can actually fight. 

  19. 12 hours ago, kallend said:

    Delta isn't lowering their pay, it's raising the health insurance premiums of unvaccinated employees.  I'm sure they have actuarial data to support doing this.

    A fine distinction, but an important one.

    But is the insurance carrier raising their premium to Delta accordingly? As far as I know, zero insurance companies right now make premium decisions based on vaccination status. So if Delta is charging an increased premium, but the carrier is not, that is just a profit fine, which mathematically is identical to just lowering their pay by the same amount.