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  1. 23 hours ago, nigel99 said:

    I know. Due to bias you will never vote Democrat as you’ll go out of your way to see the issues. Whether you vote for Trump or not you will defend and continue to defend him to the bitter end. I get the feeling your “I’m not voting Trump” is simply leaving a back door open if in the future his behaviour comes back to bite him, Trump who...?

    I will not vote for, or put my energy into Biden.

    He's the wrong choice.

    Even Kamala knows it, and said so - she called it the Harris Administration.

    I won't vote for them and their schemes.

  2. 7 hours ago, olofscience said:

    It's pretty relevant if the discussion is knowledge of bias. In a discussion of primarily science-related debate ("green new deal equals magical thinking") it's especially relevant.

    And who do you think is creating and managing those controlled settings? People in advertising like you?

    No. Scientists and lab assistants with bias.

  4. 43 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

    I can’t see much hope for the USA when people are so blinded by hatred and fear. 
    I would say that as a generalisation most people I know see Americans as being very fearful people. More so than you’re average nation. Trump has tapped into that fear and is exploiting it. 

    The one good thing I will say is he has drawn the bigotry out into the open. All those middle aged white men who feel marginalised because they see the world as transactional and that if a woman or minority gets the same rights as them, they have somehow “lost” some of their masculinity and rights.

    For the election, I think it’s going to be close. Look at the percentage of posters here that are now clearly in the Trump camp.

    Its not Trump as much as Anti Biden.

    I won't vote for Trump.

  5. 5 hours ago, airdvr said:

    ...to be replaced with plans with huge deductibles.  Just like your ambulance ride to the ER the deductibles on most ACA plans mean they might as well not have insurance.  So in reality ACA moved millions of people into high deductible insurance plans and told them it was insurance.

    Nice scam.

    ^^^^This^^^^

    I had a nice plan.  I could afford it, and when I used it I knew what I was getting.

     It covered what I needed, not what someone else said I needed.

     

     

  6. 2 hours ago, billvon said:

     Did you read anything about it, other than what you were told to believe?

     

    Did YOU read anything about it.
    It is most certainly NOT a documentary. (Bolding is not mine)
     
    Cuties (French: Mignonnes) is a 2020 French coming-of-age comedy-drama film written and directed by French-Senegalese Maïmouna Doucouré in her feature directorial debut. The film stars Fathia Youssouf, Médina El Aidi-Azouni, Esther Gohourou, Ilanah Cami-Goursolas and Maïmouna Gueye.
    Directed by: Maïmouna Doucouré
    Language: French language
     

    Cuties - Wikipedia

     

    That is NOT a movie I care to ever watch.

     

  7. 3 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

    How does the left enable this behavior?
    And how can you be sure the shooter was from 'the left'?

    The only description I can find is a 'black male'. Considering that the arsons in Minnesota and the previous police shooting in California were committed by Alt-Right, white supremacist, "Boogaloo" types; to assume this was done by someone 'on the left' is a bit of a stretch. Not saying it wasn't, but nobody knows at this point.
    I think I remember a few of the white 'provocateurs' were arrested wearing makeup that made them look black. Again, I don't know, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

    From a purely 'operational' standpoint, that sort of disguise would be a good idea, as long as nobody got close enough (and apparently nobody did). Shoot the cops, run around the corner, pull off whatever clothes are on the outside, wipe off the face, walk away as a completely different person. (again, this is pure speculation)

    Although, if it is a black person, I give it about a 10% chance of him surviving the arrest. 

    Who is shocked?
    I've been wondering how long it would take.
    The LAPD & LA County sheriff's dept are some of the most corrupt and brutal out there.
    Everything that the Rodney King investigation showed was still present during the CRASH/Rampart scandal a few years later. 
    During the initial BLM protests a couple months ago, there were a LOT of excessive force claims. Because just about everyone has video capability in their hand, there was proof of many of the claims and the dept couldn't just ignore them.
    Trump is doing absolutely nothing to make people think the problems will be addressed. In fact, as Bill pointed out above, he's doing just the opposite.

    If you want the riots and violence to increase, make the people protesting think that they aren't making any progress at all. The anger and frustration will increase to the point that stuff like this starts happening.
    Funny how it didn't happen when Obama was president. Yes, there was violence in St Louis after Brown was killed, but it went away pretty fast. 
     

    Jesus Howard Christ - 

    And you call ME an apologist?

  8. 4 hours ago, brenthutch said:

    Now that you mention it he did test positive for COVID 19

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiWh_Sur-nrAhUlgnIEHSvXBlQQFjAAegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.npr.org%2Fsections%2Flive-updates-protests-for-racial-justice%2F2020%2F06%2F04%2F869278494%2Fmedical-examiners-autopsy-reveals-george-floyd-had-positive-test-for-coronavirus&usg=AOvVaw1A3IXu2kci_o42qWL7k8hv

    There ya go - He died of the Rona!

  11. 2 hours ago, billvon said:

    Figured you wouldn't be able to answer it.

    But by all means, use two cops in critical condition to make some more cheap political points.  Then go back to claiming you are just a misunderstood centrist.
     

    Y'all keep claiming that I think I'm a centrist.

    One More Time - 

    I am more of a centrist than most of the posters here are.

    Even though I lean to the right, the ones on the left are farther away from center than I am.

     

  12. 1 hour ago, wolfriverjoe said:

    They don't see it as a problem, because they don't see that he cares as little for them as he does for any of those 'on the left'.

    They are blind to the fact that he only cares about himself.

    They ignore the very simple fact that they are being used. And will be tossed aside, ignored or sacrificed when their usefulness is over.

    Or, they simply see what they can gain from the situation and work with that.

    Even if that were true, it's still the choice of that person.

    I wonder, do you think Biden cares any more about you than you claim Trump thinks about Ron?

  14. Just now, turtlespeed said:

    Go back and re read what I said.

    It left MORE with the inability to AFFORD coverage anymore.

    Look at the uptick in your image.  That trend continued.

    People held onto what they could until they couldn't sustain the increases that the ACA made inevitable.

    The ones it helped the most were the insurance companies.

     

    BUT - by all means lets keep distracting from fact that the left was perfectly OK that some of the people ended up with hardship so they could get what they wanted.

  15. 1 hour ago, billvon said:

    Nope.  More people were insured under the program than there were before.

    Go back and re read what I said.

    It left MORE with the inability to AFFORD coverage anymore.

    Look at the uptick in your image.

    People held onto what they could until they couldn't sustain the increases that the ACA made inevitable.

    The ones it helped the most were the insurance companies.

     

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    17 minutes ago, airdvr said:

    He's grasping at straws to find some reason to shift the blame away from where it belongs.  The left enables this behavior and then acts shocked when they see the result.

    Agreed.

    They try to do a lot of justifications.

    13% of the population commits 50% or more of the murders - 

    That is easily justified.

  17. 17 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

    The protests of BLM have been going on during the entirety of the trump administration. trump's answer has been pushback and lies. The new Woodward book is entitled "Rage" and when asked why he chose that name for the title of a book about trump. "As with its predecessor, the title of the book is derived from a conversation that Woodward had with Trump in March 2016. Woodward contended that "a lot of angst and rage and distress" was present in the Republican Party to which Trump replied that "I bring rage out. I do bring rage out."

    "Mr. Woodward pointed out that both he and Mr. Trump were “white, privileged” and asked if Mr. Trump was working to “understand the anger and the pain, particularly, Black people feel in this country.”

    Mr. Trump replied, “No,” and added: “You really drank the Kool-Aid, didn’t you? Just listen to you. Wow. No, I don’t feel that at all.”

    Mr. Woodward writes that he tried to coax the president into speaking about his understanding of race. But Mr. Trump would only say over and over that the economy had been positive for Black people before the coronavirus led to an economic crisis."

    So this thread is about law enforcement officers being attacked yet the baiting of the trump WH of nutjobs and the lunatic fringe is unaddressed. The US this year has had trump supporters shot at pointblank range by left wing nuts. Kids toting AR-15's killing protestors, being applauded by the right and their mouthpiece FOX.

    Now cops. Yet the rhetoric by trump and his tribe gets ratcheted up again and again.

    Get ready for more.

    So - these cops get shot and the reaction at the hospital . . .

    . . . . and you bring up white privilege?

  18. 28 minutes ago, airdvr said:

    Pot meet kettle....

    Joe Biden’s Draft Record Looks a Lot Like Donald Trump’s. Do Democrats Care?

    Just a few months before President Donald Trump received his now-infamous diagnosis of “bone spurs in the heels,” former high school football star Biden got the same 1-Y draft deferment for “asthma as a teenager.” It was one of five deferments Biden received (the same number as notorious GOP “draft dodger” Dick Cheney) and allowed him to avoid being drafted at the height of the war. 

    Not really . . . they will just say "Orange Man Bad" and move about on their hypocritical day, ignoring they ever said anything about Trumps record.

     

  20. 1 hour ago, RonD1120 said:

    [Antifa] is a domestic terrorist organization and needs to be dealt with as such.

    Stay tuned for declaration.

     

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    I smell photoshop.

  22. 12 hours ago, jakee said:

    Isn't that exactly your position? Obamacare gave 20 million people access to healthcare who previously couldn't afford any insurance at all, but because your premiums went up a bit you're against it.

     

    Is that not the absolute definition of the "I'm alright Jack" mentality you're attempting to paint onto the left?

    It just switched the people around that couldn't afford their insurance anymore.

    It left more with the inability to afford it than it gave insurance to.