Suslique

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  1. Winsor I don't even read your posts, so don't bother :) ain't nobody has time for that 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  2. I see. No, not in the US 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  3. [Quote]If your friends are in prison for "Illegal weapons possession", what did they have? Nothing. Knock on the door--arrest without saying single word about the reason or whatever--then they were presented with false allegations behind closed doors and that's it--see u in 7 years. 95% of opposition is in prison. Guys who got illegal possession have never held even toy guns in their hands. Not everyone got IP, some inciting violence, some even treason (those who were active involved in elections). Do you really think that there are no political prisoners in US? Also, do u expect progovernment websites to post that information? But this is simply not realistic. This information is always shared by alternative resources. Google the list of whistleblowers who got imprisoned. They shared a classified information you'd say, yes, but this information contained crimes, human rights violations, etc Well I don't think that Algeria, SA and Yemen represents 2 billion of Muslims in the world:) I think who represents what --is a mistaken approach altogether that leads to generalisations and stereotyping 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  4. Whatever is happening in the countries you have mentioned has nothing to do with original Islamic teachings. Why they are doing it I don't know, we need to have a detailed historical analysis to find the answer I guess. That is why I'm saying don't study Muslims, study Islam Do u think that political prisoners in Russia are jailed like political prisoners?:)) my friend was in prison on trumped up charges back home (I won't mention where "the home" is for security reasons ) he never committed any crimes, all was made up. He was imprisoned for social and political activism and this is a no brainer for those who know him. Not only him, there are acquaintances who got 7-8 years in prison on trumped up charges. They did nothing wrong but they are in prison for "illegal weapon" possession etc. Why? For being politically active. For organising marshes and protests. We all know that but outsiders say "there is no smoke without fire", " they committed real crimes". Here's a handy list of alleged US political prisoners: https://afgj.org/politicalprisonersusa Even without political prisoners US owns off grid prisons like Guantanamo. I mean seriously, every single country has dark side there is no point in arguing about it 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  5. Just read the book when u have an opportunity to do it, because I'll have to basically re-write it here to prove my point. Good for you, I don't share the same logic with respect to traveling. Every country has its dark side. Some are getting involved in literally constant unnesesary wars overseas, some have human right problems, some have off grid prisons, some drug/human trafficking, some poverty, some ecological problems, some have corporations that basically work on the same slavery just overseas (out of sight out of mind) etc 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  6. Bugs...or birds :/ https://youtu.be/9n2ZCRZQr4k 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  7. The fact that they pick up single cases and amplify them and make it look as if all Muslims are just like that. This is what i call distortion and manipulation of facts. When u repeat the same thing over and over again it forms a solid stereotype. Hmm I don't agree. US doesn't like vocal critics either, look it up there are plenty of political and social movement prisoners in US. Plus allowing critics doesn't mean dealing with problem, dog barks caravan moves on. I don't agree with generalisation re UAE or Qatar, thousands of people from Asia support their families back home thanks to job opportunities in ME. Slavery is not a mundane thing there u know, just like in the case mentioned in the article about US modern day slavery. Just out of curiosity are there other countries that you boycott? Israel? Russia? Mexico? Brazil? 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  8. Yes, absolutely. Interesting perspective, thank you 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  9. It is a very complex topic that deserves a book written on this subject (that I recommended to read in my previous posts, by Mr Chomsky). Media amplifies whatever "crazy" and "scary" is happening in Muslim world, to empose stereotypes and dehumanise muslims for western society, to condition west into "us vs them" thinking. So that if there is another invasion to Iraq or Afghanistan or any other "barbaric" country there is little resistance from western public. So that nobody asks uncomfortable questions, so that it is easier to manipulate public opinion in any direction needed. Every country's media does exactly the same job. Tune in into Russian news sometime, you are going to be outraged by the portrayal of US by their mass media. Never underestimate the power of propaganda and brainwashing. What do u feel when u hear about some suicide bomber in Iraq killing hundreds of Muslims? More than likely the reaction would be pretty different in case the same thing happens in western country. The power of dehumanisation. What was the outcome of absolutely unacceptable Israeli operation last year in Palestine? Any sanctions by west? Anything about Israeli nuclear activities? All rhetoric questions.. Masses are conditioned into certain type of thinking that benefits their government. Free thinkers are dangerous for any system both western and eastern or Martian for that matter. Another point is that bold headlines always work good as a distraction from local problems. When it comes to slavery...well as it is said don't hate someone who sins differently than you do. Or maybe not so different after all [url]https://www.aclu.org/blog/us-admits-modern-day-slavery-exists-home[/URL] add to this slave shop fueled business of corporations and you'll see that every country uses the same tactics and models. And just like everywhere else above mentioned cases are exceptions. Majority of immigrants in UAE are paid well, and work in proper conditions. But to see that u need to get a ticket and visit. ;) 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  10. Afghanistan is not middle East. And war changes not only landscape unfortunately. Landscape is the least affected thing... Read up on their history and regimes that came one after another. It is not Islam that brought them into the state they are now. There was Islam before Afghanistan became a bait for Russia, west and others. If u r not into history then I advise u to read Thousands of Splendid Suns by Khaled Hosseini, it is fiction but describes historical changes pretty well. Want to see modern Islamic societies? Go to Qatar, Oman, UAE. Dont trust mass media to form your opinion on middle East, get a ticket and see it with ur own eyes. 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  11. Middle East consists of 18 countries. Which country in particular you are referring to? 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  12. No, you can't make up your mind about religion based on its followers. You are talking about countries that suffered from colonial period and wars, take Afghanistan-- country where generation after generation was born in the state of war. There is a trauma of generations that affects all aspects of life. I'm not in a state or denial, i study my religion daily. I would never become a Muslim if I studied people instead of religion. Speaking of people I personally don't know single "crazy" Muslim that media is constantly talking about 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  13. I know only one Tunisian he is married to my friend and nobody in his family wears hijab. As a matter of fact his wife is constantly criticised by in-laws that she looks like an old woman. So I'm not even sure whatever media is portraying is a nation wide problem. Maybe in some uneducated regions? [Quote]what kind of cultural problem is this if a threat to a woman's safety for wanting to wear a miniskirt has nothing to do with religion? In patriarchal sexist societies? Former colonies that still can't recover and get their business together? Low % of education? Islam gave women right to own a business, get divorce, get education and work (or not work even if her husband wants her to work). I can't speak for Tunisians, the only thing that j can tell u is Islam's position on women's rights. 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  14. interesting read http://edition.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/02/19/women.bikinis.objects/ 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  15. Media makes u feel as if its a middle easter-pan Arab problem when in fact its a global problem. Everywhere from India to Brazil from US to Russia. Ask ur female friends im sure they have tons of stories to tell u. What makes men associate mini skirt as a permission for harassment/annoying flirt? I don't know. Maybe ignorance? Parents didn't hug them enough? What makes a seemingly successful big boss harass his female employee? I'm not a psychologist I don't have answers to these questions. 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  16. Culture. Islam clearly states that "The is no compulsion in religion". No matter what media or backwards cultures or islamophobes say 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  17. Then make FGM part of the culture for that extra edge. mh . It was present in tribal traditions before Islam. Islam forbids mutilation (removal of all tissues) however adult female is allowed to decide whether to have surgical procedure that is in western world called labiaplasty or not. Females do it for cosmetic or hygienic reasons you can read about it on realself.com if you are interested. Female orgasm is an important part of marital relationship in Islam, there is a whole series of lectures by Yasir Qadhi on this matter. 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  18. thank you for detailed reply, very informative (and free :D) 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  19. BTW what is the legal definition of hate speech in US? is there anything about provocation as well? Genuinely curious 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  20. Yet another clown to distract people from more important stuff. Remember, when weird viruses and people like this one appear in the media its time to focus on a background picture. More than likely you'll see politicians stealing something from u 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  21. hmm muslims don't believe that you can make anyone "believe" by stating the facts or whatever. we take a stance that its only God who opens certain hearts to belief, there is a higher wisdom about it. people make 'dawah' - can be roughly translated as 'invitation', by their attitude/words but we by no means can change anyone's heart. so there is no point in crazy debates. 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  22. See Suslique, this is a perfect example of what I said in post #438 about clearing up the same misconceptions from the same people over and over. I addressed turtles misconception about war and religion 3 months ago, but he just ignores it and regurgitates the same crap... http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4708982;search_string=war;#4708982 We have different understanding of what " clearing misconceptions" means. To me its explaining (I also discussed this moment earlier in this thread and turtlespeed read that) and leaving it. Clearing misconceptions doesn't mean to me to change somebody's mind about Islam. Its up to them. If he still feels that way that's his business not mine. I just share publicly what I know, engage in discussion, u know, i enjoy human interaction. 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  23. thanks and thanks:) love peace and chicken grease 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
  24. If you're still here 10 years from now, you'll be talking to the same people trying to clear up the same misconceptions and answering the same questions. Welcome to hell...I'm on my second skin. meh. i have a toddler at home and i'm used to answering the same questions over and over and over again and ignore childish trolling as well :D 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid?' 'That is the only time a man can be brave.' George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones
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