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    School? State University of Stupid, I guess.




    :D:D:D

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    The guy your uncle checked out may have thought he was cutting illegally, even if he wasn't sure about it.



    yup presuming you were batchmates:P


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    Update: I know I said back there that I was going to give the Seattle FBI a couple of weeks with the KC report before releasing it to the media. And then I handed off an unedited copy to the Tribune.

    I thought about it for a while today. The FBI's had forty-plus years to solve the case and they have not done so to date. Since they've had their chance, I figured it was fair to give the media a running start on Kenny as well.



    Anyways didn't get this...are you giving it to media right away?

  2. RobertMBlevins

    ******No big deal, but the private book editing gig I do on weekends is picking up. I just finished doing a short book for a Kindle upload. Maybe five hours work and I collected $200. Cooper? Ha...that edit job paid more than we get from Blast in a 60-day period for the Kindle version. No one will ever get rich from frickin' DB Cooper. I can guarantee it.

    It's a money pit worse than the Tom Hanks' film of the same name...;)




    Now you are telling me .... ;)

    Oh, you can make a buck at Kindle by regurgitating the case. There are Cooper books aplenty at Amazon, and all of them sell here or there to a degree.

    Just don't be stupid enough (like me) to spend more than ten grand of your own money chasing a suspect...

    And then be even stupider (I guess) by turning down $2,500 from History Channel...(because I thought my appearance would be more credible if I did it for free)

    And another $1,000 from Comcast Sports for the Adrenaline Hunter episode with Bethy Rossos...(Same reason. Had more fun on this one because Bethy jumps from an airplane over the woods with an extra 22 pounds of cargo. Her first time skydiving, it was cool.) Picture attached from that.

    I have provided an unedited copy of the report to the Tacoma News Tribune. I was going to start with the Seattle Times, but they are sort of lacking in email addresses for the prime staff. Mostly phone numbers.


    "Turn down money"...Which school did you go to? :P:D:ph34r:

    One of my Uncles was working for Forest Dept types and was assigned as investigator in a case where the Vendor was charged with cutting/using more of the wooded area than was allotted to him. When the inquiry began he approached this uncle with bag full or cash, asking for favors. Uncle refused but it turned out later that he was indeed on the right side and was acquitted.

    Uncle forever wondered as to why he even approached him with cash! And I am sure he did regret turning it down as well :D

    True story!

  3. RobertMBlevins

    ******Yes, we did. Today, I hit the 'send' button on an email to the Seattle FBI. Attached was the final report on Kenny Christiansen in a linked PDF. After editing, it ended up at 74 pages of witness testimony (with their contact information), documents, pictures, and some general overview of the evidence. It's a fairly complex document.




    Robert, there's no link for pdf?

    It's a confidential document. Contains many folks' contact information, etc. We have to give the Seattle FBI a chance at it first. A few other people have seen it, but only ones we know and trust.

    Sorry...for now it has to be that way. I'll post up the public document that contains the main points. All I can do. :)

    Hmm interesting!! It sure seems like Geetmans have more to hide than a nasty divorce...besides Cooper case, isn't it possible that they have indeed done something else? Some other crime that they are hiding and are nervous that in the Cooper mess may be that'll be uncovered instead?

    I doubt anyone sells a property n goes incognito if u r innocent or uninvolved. No one steals a freaking logbook from 1971 or pictures or buys or sells wagon for just 1 use.
    Sounds odd...but then so is digging in Cooper case...

    Anyways, KC does seem way off the popular composite and despite Geof Gray's claims of various versions of the composite, I am sure the one out is most likely. I mean FBI though foolish, is not just a bunch of fools. Why release an incorrect composite? And if they did then probably Nixon conspiracy theory is likely...(gosh...I gotta stop now)

    There have been fellow passengers (I remember one who was a boy in 20s then & a football player or something) who claimed he got a pretty good look of Cooper primarily caz he was getting all the attention n all. However I seriously think it was all made up, Cooper by then was wearing thick dark glasses and was clearly away from direct sight of most so for such people to get it wrong is pretty likely and maybe that's why there exists various composites.

    I guess this is one of those cases where every Tom n Harry has an opinion...can't deny I am getting sucked into Cooper addiction myself...gosh need to get a life :P

  4. RobertMBlevins

    No big deal, but the private book editing gig I do on weekends is picking up. I just finished doing a short book for a Kindle upload. Maybe five hours work and I collected $200. Cooper? Ha...that edit job paid more than we get from Blast in a 60-day period for the Kindle version. No one will ever get rich from frickin' DB Cooper. I can guarantee it.

    It's a money pit worse than the Tom Hanks' film of the same name...;)




    Now you are telling me .... ;)

  5. matthewcline

    No, this signature is to Instructors of this community, the Skydiving community this page is intended for.

    It is meant to remind them that money is secondary in their job, student safety is first.

    Matt




    Agreed...hope they are listening :)

  6. RobertMBlevins

    ************Yes, we did. Today, I hit the 'send' button on an email to the Seattle FBI. Attached was the final report on Kenny Christiansen in a linked PDF. After editing, it ended up at 74 pages of witness testimony (with their contact information), documents, pictures, and some general overview of the evidence. It's a fairly complex document.



    Robert, there's no link for pdf?

    It's a confidential document. Contains many folks' contact information, etc. We have to give the Seattle FBI a chance at it first. A few other people have seen it, but only ones we know and trust.

    Sorry...for now it has to be that way. I'll post up the public document that contains the main points. All I can do. :)

    Oh...missed the point completely. Anyways...will wait for results...curious!

    It's no big deal. Truly...I would LOVE to post the entire document up publicly at our website. It's too big a file to post to Dropzone anyway. It far exceeds their file limit, due to the heavy number of images.

    But I have to ensure that the witnesses named in the document don't get hassled by the public before the FBI decides whether or not to question them. If there is no action on it by the Seattle FBI over the next few weeks, I will make it publicly available on our website, and to the media. The only thing I will leave off the public version will be the phone numbers and email addresses of the witnesses. I will leave their true names and the towns where they live in place. The media can have the full version, though. Those will go out on an individual basis.

    EDIT: I guess I can post up the cover letter and first sheet of the report. Has the Table of Contents so you can kind of see where we went with it.


    Hmm...read the cover letter, doesn't say much but then I agree with your stand. No point detailing the report for public viewing, it'll only create needless mess. Let's see how the story unfolds...again curious!

  7. RobertMBlevins

    ******Yes, we did. Today, I hit the 'send' button on an email to the Seattle FBI. Attached was the final report on Kenny Christiansen in a linked PDF. After editing, it ended up at 74 pages of witness testimony (with their contact information), documents, pictures, and some general overview of the evidence. It's a fairly complex document.



    Robert, there's no link for pdf?

    It's a confidential document. Contains many folks' contact information, etc. We have to give the Seattle FBI a chance at it first. A few other people have seen it, but only ones we know and trust.

    Sorry...for now it has to be that way. I'll post up the public document that contains the main points. All I can do. :)

    Oh...missed the point completely. Anyways...will wait for results...curious!

  8. RobertMBlevins

    Yes, we did. Today, I hit the 'send' button on an email to the Seattle FBI. Attached was the final report on Kenny Christiansen in a linked PDF. After editing, it ended up at 74 pages of witness testimony (with their contact information), documents, pictures, and some general overview of the evidence. It's a fairly complex document.




    Robert, there's no link for pdf?

  9. RobertMBlevins

    Here's your Cooper Case solved entry thousandthings, placed into a link HERE.

    Yeah...the altimeter is a myth all right. Kind of like when I once thought that Captain Scott went back to talk to the hijacker to confirm he had a real bomb. That statement was a bomb LOL. I had heard that in some article way back when, and it wasn't any more true than the altimeter.

    And yes...there is some amount of useless bickering that goes on around here. These days it is fairly tame. It used to be worse but then a couple of users got banned and then others toned it down a bit. However, you can still view a lot of that crap if you want because the worst offenders ended up over at the alternate site on Cooper run by user 'Shutter'. About once or twice a month I stop by there to see Georger's latest rants about me. He copies over a lot of my posts at Dropzone and goes on tirades about them. Says I'm basically a nut, a liar, etc.
    There is a bottom line on Kenny Christiansen. And that line goes like this: I don't know if he's the hijacker. I only suspect he MAY have been. A fair amount of evidence and a number of witnesses may be able to determine the truth. FBI has told me personally that some in the Seattle office think he might be good for Cooper, while others don't. They want to see the updated report on him, they've said so. So...they will get it. Truth is I don't have a friggin' clue if he was the hijacker for sure or not. Let the FBI figure it out, that's my opinion. Unless *alleged* accomplice Bernie Geestman's family gets hold of me again, then our official investigation into Christiansen is closed.




    Wow Robert the cartoons are super fun...loved the Marla1 & Blasted. Blasted is especially sarcy...good on

    Cooper may not have left ... couldn't deny that it did cross my mind too and for exactly the same reasons as you said... people have done far worse and have still stuck around.

    I read an interview of Co Pilot (I guess the Porteous one only) in which though he straight away refused McCoy, he sounded a bit shaky about KC so well...I guess no one can be too sure.

    About the case, I doubt the flight path is incorrect. I think these variables are added later on. It is very difficult to get a flight path incorrect for such a case where enough people were watching & monitoring. Again Citizen Sleuth guys also stated that it is likely correct.

    I guess Tena Bar Money is the most baffling aspect of the case and whoever solves it solves the case. Culprit clearly is lost now, maybe even dead.

  10. skyjack71

    Tina saw the reddish cylinders but never mentioned an altimeter.

    She may have noted what she thought was a clock...like myself may not have know what she was looking at.

    Cooper kept messing with something in the case - she thought it was a wire going to the bomb - but maybe it was an altimeter Cooper kept looking at to be sure the pilot followed the conditional guidelines he requested.

    Note the minutes of the request made by Cooper...when the plane went above the request of 10,000 ft...Cooper gave a warning. Cooper probably had an altimeter in that briefcase.

    It was also noted by Tina - she saw something she thought was a green plastic bag in the upper flap of the briefcase....this was in the FBI reports and it was mentioned by Tosaw.




    Maam, if I am not wrong, Mucklow did not sit with Cooper on way to Reno and the conditional flying guidelines were given only for that leg...in which case what you stated above is contradictory.

    A question to Cooperonians: Can't an airline simply serve a spiked drink or something...u know to simply pass a hijacker out? (I mean the green bag can simply have a sandwich in it :P)

    Besides I know the following is a party pooper however I don't think Cooper or anyone in their right mind will continue to live in US after committing such a crime. At the risk of repeating myself KC, Webber & likes are ruled out simply on those grounds.

  11. skyjack71


    Unable to figure out exactly who even suggested this.

    "Besides, I remember having read somewhere that Cooper mentioned that he had an altimeter...isn't that correct?"

    For whoever's information that is a myth this thread gave birth to.

    I will personal state that NOT one of the witnesses who I have spoke to mentioned anything about Cooper having an altimeter. By the way the only one I am missing is Florence.

    I do know that Duane mentioned having had one - but I didn't even know what he was talking about. Tina also stated that Cooper had no jewelry on. A watch was not considered jewelry in 1971....how do I know this. In 1971 the rules at the school were no jewelry, but you could wear a watch & therefore not considered by some one her age as jewelry.

    Tina noted a scar on Cooper's hand. No one seemingly wants to address that. Weber had a scar on his hand per the criminal records.



    Hmm...this is interesting!
    I've read a few of your earlier posts which also spoke about the "scar"...however I have to admit I didn't hear about it anywhere else. Also I missed the point about the source of that info?

    Again, I had no idea that Cooper warned the pilot when they crossed 10000 ft limit. If so he clearly had altimeter, I mean you can't just guess it. But again what's the source of info?

    PS: I like the passion on this forum. While researching I did think many times to drop the topic and move onto to something else but the arguments here kept me bringing back and I have to admit kept in interested.

  12. Reichenbach

    ******` 727 not a DC-10
    ` Second panel "Mucklow"
    ` delivery of the money/chutes through the air stairs.
    ` passengers let off through the air stairs.
    ` he wants to go to Mexico City.
    ` Cooper says "under 10,000 ft"
    ` Altimiter? WTF?
    ` why is there a giant porthole in the cockpit?
    ` no storm
    ` aircraft in storm needs gear down.
    ` fbi tried to buy time repeated.
    ` last panel "no one"
    ` last panel gear down.





    Thanks Reichenbach, noted...will correct these :$.
    Besides, I remember having read somewhere that Cooper mentioned that he had an altimeter...isn't that correct?

    Hey, I just wanted to say that I only commented so Cooperites (Cooperonians?) don't jump on your back, haha.
    I know exactly how much hard effort and work goes into creating something and about how easily someone can rip it apart in two seconds. It seems to be human nature to pick out the negative so I just wanted to state to you, good work!


    Chill dude...Iam with ya ...I like this forum, despite the rants, it can be quite informative too.

    Cooperites (or Cooperonians), again urging to have a look at the satire:D.B.Cooper mystery … finally solved? here:

    [url] https://thousandthingsinmyhead.wordpress.com/2015/01/24/d-b-cooper-mystery-finally-solved/


    ...can be funny even if I say so myself (hmpff it better be clickable)

  13. Robert99

    ******

    If my memory is correct, it was an FAA (not FBI) man who wanted to meet Cooper face-to-face to tell him that he was getting into trouble by hijacking that airplane. I suspect that Cooper was already aware of that.

    Robert99




    About face to face meeting, I am not sure either but if you get confident info somewhere, do let me know. I'll correct it.



    I have gone through the printed radio transcripts of the whole hijacking up to the point of departure from Seattle to Reno, the ARNIC radio transcripts, Himmelsbach's book, and Tosaw's book without finding a mention of that face-to-face meeting.

    Nevertheless, I do remember seeing it somewhere in printed form. If I ever find the source, I'll let you know.

    Robert99


    Iam embarrassed to admit however this info seems to be from Wikipedia...so basically baseless. And you are right about FAA and not FBI

  14. Reichenbach

    ` 727 not a DC-10
    ` Second panel "Mucklow"
    ` delivery of the money/chutes through the air stairs.
    ` passengers let off through the air stairs.
    ` he wants to go to Mexico City.
    ` Cooper says "under 10,000 ft"
    ` Altimiter? WTF?
    ` why is there a giant porthole in the cockpit?
    ` no storm
    ` aircraft in storm needs gear down.
    ` fbi tried to buy time repeated.
    ` last panel "no one"
    ` last panel gear down.





    Thanks Reichenbach, noted...will correct these :$.
    Besides, I remember having read somewhere that Cooper mentioned that he had an altimeter...isn't that correct?

  16. Robert99

    ******Hey guys... I dropped onto this zone as I was researching for Dan Cooper for making a comic strip.
    Thanks for all inputs, I greatly enjoyed reading it and will keep dropping in every once in a while.

    Here's a summarized version of the comic strip if you wanna have a look:


    https://thousandthingsinmyhead.wordpress.com/2015/02/17/d-b-cooper-part-2/



    Thousandthings,

    Those cartoons are nice. And your statement about Jeppesen is correct as those charts were preferred by airline and professional pilots over the standard government charts.

    However, the aircraft you show in the cartoon is a McDonald-Douglas DC-10 (or maybe a DC-11) which came along about a decade after the Boeing 727.

    And despite all the horror stories you have heard, there is nothing in the weather records to indicate that such a storm actually happened. In fact, there is nothing in the records to indicate any clouds above the 5000 foot ASL overcast and the airliner was flying at 10,000 feet ASL.

    If my memory is correct, it was an FAA (not FBI) man who wanted to meet Cooper face-to-face to tell him that he was getting into trouble by hijacking that airplane. I suspect that Cooper was already aware of that.

    Robert99




    Robert, you are right about the weather. I read about it only recently in one of Blevins posts, unfortunately by then the comic was already finished.

    I am making a longer and detailed version as well which goes all the way till say here (hoping to include some of the rants at DZ as well, if permitted), will do the correction there. That'll take anywhere between a few weeks to months depending upon how much I get.

    About face to face meeting, I am not sure either but if you get confident info somewhere, do let me know. I'll correct it.

    Thanks for reading it!

  18. Hey guys... I dropped onto this zone as I was researching for Dan Cooper for making a comic strip.
    Thanks for all inputs, I greatly enjoyed reading it and will keep dropping in every once in a while.

    Here's a summarized version of the comic strip if you wanna have a look:


    https://thousandthingsinmyhead.wordpress.com/2015/02/17/d-b-cooper-part-2/

  19. ***This 'flood of 79-80' could be another Cooper myth, kind of like the one that says there was a big storm the night Cooper jumped...which the records at Weather Underground for November 24, 1971 debunk as well.




    Are you saying it was a clear night? Or am I not getting it correct?

  21. RobertMBlevins

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    Yo, A-K Thingy, I don't get it. Who is Loki, and what does he/she have to do with my sex life?

    BTW: I'm not into habibs, you know, the Islamic scarf thingy that Muslim women wear.



    Yo? Are you like a gangster now or something? Look, Bruce...not to be picky but 'habib' is an Arabic word meaning 'sweetheart,' or it is used as a surname by many Arabs.

    A 'hajib' is what you probably refer to. That's the scarf. Or maybe a chador, a shaylar, etc. all the way to the traditional burka. But not a 'habib'. We don't want to insult any Arabs who might visit the thread. And no terrorist jokes, please.

    No big deal, you almost got it right anyway. ;)

    To Thousand Things: I don't know how long you've been interested in the Cooper case, but there is a community within the people who investigate the case, or are fans of Cooper. These people inhabit a place I call Cooperland. And here's The Illustrated Primer on it by yours truly.

    Hint to Bruce Smith: We only LOOK stupid around here.



    "Sometimes a newbie comes aboard with innocent questions, but they don't usually stay long." ....me being one ... ROFL

  22. RobertMBlevins

    ***'Lyle is actually a nice man - but he did approach the subject of Kenny because he thought it would make a good movie. According to what he told me he was watching a program & about Cooper and decided his brother made a good suppect....his letter was sent to a produce & not to the reporter as first claim. I asked him to repeat this 2 times in our conversation & I repeated it back to him.
    :)




    (First, I would shoot me in the head if the quote & my reply do not show separately this time ... it gets too confusing without it ...even for me)

    Anyways honestly your conviction on KC kinda makes me both wonder and nervous.

    I am also a non believer that KC could be Cooper, however you have researched the subject and I am curious to read the reasons why you place him so high.

    Besides here are my reasons for why I do not believe it was KC:
    1. Maybe I am placing too much importance on FBI, which obviously has taken the "my way or highway" approach by declaring and insisting that Cooper died in the jump (despite McCoy & several others surviving similar feats) than humbly accepting that "this one we just couldn't crack". So as far as credibility goes may be I shouldn't place so much on them however like you said they are the "entity" in the matter and thus they do matter.
    Anyways, to solve this is not a choice to FBI (or at least so I hope), if KC were to be Cooper, why would one has to go to the lengths which you already have and more, to prove such to FBI?

    2. Wouldn't Florence, Tina, Mitchell or someone would've recognized him? Someone stated on shutter's that your book says that Tina & KC flew together (I have questions around that too however I have not read your book yet so I rather keep mum till then), wouldn't she had figured out?

    3. Lastly (and this one is purely inspired by watching too much Bourne series), with not even a whisker on his face, Cooper should be a man of immense confidence and knew he could blend in. In the sense, he wasn't just pulling it off. An NWA employee, current, previous, ever ... exactly how he solved the equation of going unnoticed? or Worse running into them?
    I think this may also be coming from the FBI statement "if you are planning to go back to work on Monday ..."

    Get real, one can't!

    By disposition doesn't he seem like someone from intelligence / spy kinda background? Someone who got trained by system and then played it ...

  23. I'm sure he was just playing a minor joke on you when he offered to give you the answers to the Cooper case in exchange for details on your sex life. It was a joke, and a lead-in to his cartoon. But I am not here tonight to discuss all that, not really.

    I want to address the issues between two websites dedicated to D.B. Cooper:


    My gawd … that’s a lot of history. Anyways no disrespect to anyone, I myself have moved to shutter’s blog and I thought you were there too… anyways.
    As for me, I respect your opinions primarily coz its very different from mine, which is good as it gives a perspective to me. Deleting a thread only coz of some miscreants is truly a loss and if my voice is worth anything than I would suggest let’s not do that.
    Also all these are emotional outbursts and have little to no bearing on the subject matter at hand and I think that is the main problem.
    But anyways honestly on this blog I see only 3 people right now and besides you, I find others too juvenile to even read.

  24. [To Thousand Things: I don't know how long you've been interested in the Cooper case, but there is a community within the people who investigate the case, or are fans of Cooper. These people inhabit a place I call Cooperland. And here's The Illustrated Primer on it by yours truly.


    I sure will visit the link Robert. Thanks. I am clearly not as informed as you guys however whatever little I know, I am open for an intelligent debate. Unfortunately I notice more of needless debate on unrelated topics & personal propaganda here, which I have no interest in.

  25. Yo, A-K Thingy, I don't get it. Who is Loki, and what does he/she have to do with my sex life?

    BTW: I'm not into habibs, you know, the Islamic scarf thingy that Muslim women wear.

    Okay, still trying to find out the connection between Loki and my sex life. Google first, then Wikipedia:

    [words spoken to you can be described in one simple word "waste" ... so all I can say is keep trying ;)]