JWest

Why would psycho packing help? I'm still learning and am interested in opinions. My thinking has been that I follow the manufacturer's instructions for packing my specific gear. As you know a rig has multiple manufacturers and some are okay with alternative methods. You can roll the nose more or less and it will speed up or retard your openings.

That won't happen in this thread because I'm not messing with people. Regardless I am not going to sit by and let DSE act the way he is just because he is a more experienced skydiver than me. As a student I thought that inside video helped me learn faster. The instructor in this video obviously had a poorly designed mount. All people need to be aware of the snag hazards associated with a camera. Go ahead, keep disagreeing with me or dismissing what I say because of the camera thread. But do not disagree with things that are correct jest because you don't like me.

I should probably get off my ass and do some work as well. Looks good.

Try the psyco pack, Controlling the nose really helped my openings.

The irony here, is that you still don't know what you don't know, but feel like you're a hero because you can copy/paste from GoPro's website. The issue unrelated to what one can or can't do with the angle. Don't worry DSE I fully know the limitations to what I posted. But of course you want to feel intellectually superior so you keep spouting the same nonsense without providing a base or elaboration on what you think I don't know. I never addressed the snag hazard or mounting location of the camera. I only disputed the claim that due to the distortion cause by the camera the video was not a good indicator of body position. Thanks to the GoPro settings and the GoPro video suit you can minimize distortion. Since you can use the setting and software to minimize distortion you can get a more accurate depiction of body position. Stop arguing with me about statements that are completely accurate. I disputed a very simple claim. In this exact post I am not commenting on mounting location, mounting style, or even use of inside video for AFF instructors. I am only commenting on distortion and body position, nothing more. Hey, DSE, you are an experience camera flyer and have experience with gopros. Answer me this. Can you minimize distortion on a GoPro by changing the settings and using the GoPro software suit? (That is a yes or no question and only one of them is right. If you pick the right answer you are going to agree with my claim. If you pick the wrong answer you are going to look ignorant with the information previously quoted. Your choice.)

Looks pretty good.

That is theft. I proposed a case on a standard sled above but if you give it some thought as they undoubtedly have you will realize that a standard mount is linear and a helmet spherical. This makes a tight fit on two axes impossible without an additional mechanism like the cam I mentioned in my comments. I would only use their design to get the curvature to match. The mount being liner wouldn't be an issue as long as you design the snag shield to clip in tangentially to the curvature of the helmet. We do have the same thinking that a snag mount with a quick release is a more favorable design. What software are you using? It kinda looks like google sketch but I haven't used that since I learned Solidworks. All and all your designs look good.

The SIM seems to "recommend" 1,500 AGL.

That looks pretty similar to the one square one sells http://www.square1.com/manufacturers/square1/p522.asp#GoProMounts One way that could be a good way to mount it is to have the gopro style male piece printed into the actual frame of the snag shield. I want to get my hands on a G3 roller mount and 3D scan it into SolidWorks. Then modify the design so that is clips in and out of a standard gopro male mount. You could give that a try for your design. I think if the G3 roller mount (or any snag shield) was easier to attach and detach more people would have them. As for the 3M adhesive it is pretty strong. You can rip them off by grabbing the gopro and pulling to the side but it takes a little bit of strength. I'm sure the average jumper could do it.

There has been an incident thread discussing use of the cross connected RSL. Moving the discussion here to continue it in a more appropriate and visible area. In responce to this incident the manufacturer has said RTFM. The issue is that the manual -Found here http://www.jumpshack.com/download/RacerOwnersManualOctober2003.pdf- does not contain information about the risks or proper procedures required when using a cross connected RSL. Since the manufacture is not going to put out this information it is our responsibility to inform the community of the risks and procedures involved with using a cross connected RSL. To summarize from the other thread: 1. The cross connected RSL is designed to postpone a reserve deployment until both main risers are completely separated from the harness. 2. The manual does not contain much information about the cross connected RSL. 3. The manufacturer has released additional information about the cross connected RSL. This was done in 1996, not all of the information is in the manual released in 2003. Those can be found here: http://www.jumpshack.com/default.asp?CategoryID=TECH&PageID=RSL2&SortBy=DATE_D http://www.jumpshack.com/default.asp?CategoryID=TECH&PageID=2SQUARESOUT&SortBy=DATE_D http://www.jumpshack.com/default.asp?CategoryID=TECH&PageID=RSL&SortBy=DATE_D 4. The proper procedures for using a cross connected RSL is to always detach one or both of the quick release shackles once under a good canopy. 5. The proper procedure for a total or PCIT malfunction is to go straight to silver, do not cut away first. 6. The risk involved with cutting away during PCIT malfunction is that the cross connected RSL lanyard will wrap around the reserve risers and choke off the reserve if it deploys after the reserve. An example can be seen here: https://youtu.be/5dvy7ywQK18?t=1m3s 8. If you or someone you knows uses a cross connected RSL make sure they are fully aware of the risks and procedures involved with jumping it.

DominANT. DominANT. Jeez! Yeah... I suck.

People can get proper info from this. I can tell the most dominate age group and the most dominate discipline. I was not intending to find the most dominate age group in each discipline. I could do another one of those later because it seems like people are interested in it. I can easily be wrong but the way I look at it, filming RW means you are part of an RW jump. Filming FF or VFS you are part of a FF jump. Filming CRW you are part of a CRW Jump. Yes Camera flying it it's own discipline but filming RW doesn't mean you can film FF. I'm interested in the type of jumps being carried out not whether or not they are filmed.

I left out video, VFS, and team training/competition jumps fall into one of the main categories. I didn't put instructor because I wanted to know about fun jumps and I assume there are many who mostly huck tandems all day.

Not an experiment. I want information and even bolded and underlined the purpose of the thread so no one would be confused. I thought about doing each age and discipline but it would have been 63 choices. This will suffice.

Please select your age and the discipline you currently participate in most. Comment any information you feel is relevant. The purpose of this thread is to investigate the age groups and disciplines that are most represented on this forum.

I can't comment on your canopy choice, that is something that you need to discuss with your instructors and the people who know how you fly. As others have said a bike helmet is actually more safe than a skydiving helmet. I would advise against using a XC style helmet because it is snag city. A BMX helmet would be ok because it is the same style as many skydiving helmets and is impact rated.

Ability correlates with jump numbers and few skydivers overcompensate for their lack of skydiving by posting about their mad skillz on the internet as much as you do. (shakes head and walks away)

Me recognizing your sarcasm is how I know that when you wrote "I'm glad to see everyone blaming the camera", you hadn't actually learned a valuable lesson. I already stated it, but here's another opportunity to ignore it; unless that list affects your decisions on the ground before you jump and is not just fodder for the nonsense you post online then you're missing the point of it. Pretending there's not 17 pages of ample justification of my opinion of you up there ^^^ is what's ridiculous. You still haven't understood what's happened here. I thought when you pretended it was all a game you'd started to catch on and show some self awareness but just couldn't maintain the fiction. I think that you don't know that you have a dangerous attitude. What is this valuable lesson I missed? I know the importance of doing gear checks. I know they are more important than turning on a camera and I know that even experienced jumpers can be distracted enough by something to forget to do a proper gear check. I also know that if it can distract an experienced jumper it can as easily/more easily distract an inexperienced one. I have my daily gear check where I go over everything. My pre boarding gear check is: reserve pin, bridal, hacky, 3 ring, cut away handle, reserve handle, chest strap, leg straps, altimeter, audible, helmet (since I put it on last). My pre jump run check list is the one I provided earlier. If for any reason something isn't right during those checks I won't get on the plane/won't jump. I'm assuming that's what you met by affecting my decision. *** As of right now it seems like the school of thought you represent is that, if there is a camera present and anything goes wrong during a dive it's the cameras fault. Obviously that is ridiculous, but since you won't provide a comment with any thoughtful content you just seem pretentious. Context, that school of thought is what I was saying would be ridiculous. --------------------------------------- I explained what I had been doing in this thread when it went from people saying I am an inexperienced jumper that doesn't know what they are talking about to people saying I was unsafe and dangerous. I had to explain myself and put a stop to that. It ended up being the natural progression of the thread. I see that it is a somewhat reasonable conclusions because in many peoples eyes not listening to experienced jumper = unsafe/dangerous. I ended it because that is not me. I may participate in inherently dangerous activities like we all do, because skydiving. When I participate in these activities I do it in a way to minimize risk. I don't have and know how to use, swift water rescue training and associated gear, wilderness first aid and associated gear, avalanche training and associated gear, a personal locator beacon, survival training, and all the other safety gear involved with motorcycles, mountain bikes, snowmobiling, skiing, kayaking, skydiving and hunting, because I like to spend money and for shits and giggles. I have all of that training and gear to minimize risk for the activities I participate in. I am an inexperienced skydiver but I am not unsafe. This thread came from curiosity and a question. That was all answered rather quickly. It wasn't until later that I waned to see if the threads mindset would prevent people from acknowledging things that generally went against it but were correct. I expected people to see why I had been saying what I was when I explained what I had been doing. Maybe it is my dislike of people who repeat things without critical thinking or people that don't understand whether or not the thought is even theirs in the first place, probably both, either way I am always interested in it. I don't know if you have ever studies sociology but if you haven't it is really interesting. This thread served it's intended purpose 100%. I learned a lot from it. Due to the deserved warning from billvon, a moderator and extremely knowledgeable and respected skydiver I have ended all experiments/games/trolls. This is the real me, this is the type of post you should base your opinion of me on, not the 17 previous pages of nonsense.

From his flying I'd estimate he has 10x your jump numbers and was probably 100% on his chest strap routing until that jump. Still trying your best to ignore the lesson I see. You read and cited DSE's incidents list but try your damnedest to learn absolutely nothing from it. Just add this to the list. I figured my sarcasm was strong enough to see but it's the internet. Anyway, what lessons did I fail to learn/am ignoroing from DSE's thread and this video? Please tell me what you think I don't know. I am genuinely curious. If you thought of an angle that I have not considered I will gladly admit it. As of right now it seems like the school of thought you represent is that, if there is a camera present and anything goes wrong during a dive it's the cameras fault. Obviously that is ridiculous, but since you won't provide a comment with any thoughtful content you just seem pretentious. So again, please tell me what you know that you think I don't.

He did remember to turn it on. I saw his video. This was taken at Kolomna dropzone, near Moscow. They do lots of organized big way training jumps for fairly inexperienced people and this could have been one of their jumps. I am very surprised no one picked it up before boarding or on the plane, as the Let 410s have plenty of space and it should have been visible. A great example of someone who can turn the camera on and forget the most basic of skydiving checks. Clearly not someone of Jwest's mad skilz. Helmet, chest strap, leg straps, hacky, cut away, reserve. In that order every time. When I jump a camera that will be added to the list after the ones I've already mentioned. So far I'm 100% on chest strap routing. Clearly he doesn't have my mad skills. But I'm glad to see everyone blaming the camera.

Videos 1, and 2 are essentially the same thing. The camera angle is what is different. Video 3 is a guy trying to do barrel rolls as the description says. So he was not getting fully around.

So long and goodnight.

I love learning and I never intended for my post in this thread to be combative. I just wanted to correct the statement that the gopro was not a good tool for judging body positions due to the wide angle. That is all I wanted to do. I though it would be useful information that even with the wide angle the GoPro software suit has the capability of minimizing the distortion. Depending on mounting location the settings on the actual camera could be changed to reduce the distortion as well. I figured there was a possibility that not everyone reading this thread was aware of that and it would be useful information to them.

I wasn't exactly trolling. I genuinely wanted to/did learn something. Some of it was even skydiving related. Anyway, I already explained what I've been doing and you can only get away with it once. I close by saying. Jump numbers are important to people online while performance is important to people you jump with.

Arrogent isn't the right word. I am 1 of 7 billion people. I do not matter, and I am an inexperienced jumper, I know that. My friend don't like it when I do social experiments on them either. -------- Seven firing criteria? I know there is a complex algorithm that probably involves time, speed, pressure, and altitude. But what are the other 5 firing criteria besides altitude and speed?