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  1. Love the effective camouflage - can't even see it! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  2. I swear I could see the lights of L.A. at exit on that one! Here's another memorable one~ http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1997701#1997701 ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  3. I went 38 years without an AAD and probably still wouldn't have one if Captian Mom hadn't gifted me a Vigil... That said I'm happy to have it and do use it. I wouldn't be afraid to jump without it. I have 3 different motorcycle helmets... I usually wear one but not always, I like having the choice. I don't like mandatory requirements on choices... It's indeed safer to utilize these things and smarter people do without being legislated into it. But the choice should be up to the individual. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  4. What is dangerous about them? The reserve is almost always flying straight, with minimal downward velocity of, let's say, 15 ft/sec. Plenty of time to untwist. Much better than burning altitude freefalling at 176 ft/sec, trying to get stable, thus opening much lower, or not at all... Kind of a judgement call IMO. I can get stable pretty quick & when I'm down to 'it either works or game over', I like being in a stable launch position. Nothing wrong with using available altitude to insure that...again 'in MY opinion'. I'm very comfortable with my hard deck, I have time to do it right. "What's dangerous about them?" ~ mainly you have no control of where you are going, in crowded skies that can mean a wrap...sure would suck to be stuck in a severe wrap @ 2000' & be all out of parachutes. Weigh that against a cleanly opened reserve under control @ 1500'...which is still twice as high as your AAD is set. In the last 15 years I heard about approx 40 jumpers (in the US alone), who either cutaway and did not pull reserve, or pulled it too low (some had 6000 jumps and multiple cutaways before). In the last 15 years I heard about ZERO wraps under reserve. Both thing can happen, but the odds for former are WAY higher than the latter. So you're saying 40 people went in during the last 15 years...none of them had an RSL hooked up? Is that reflected in a database somewhere because I kinda find that hard to believe. As far as reserve wraps... I've seen 2... Heard of a few others. Saw one from the ground at a freak bros convention & the other up close and personal in 1981. - so I know for a fact it happens - the 'odds' in my case aren't 'way higher' it won't happen, it already has. In 14 cutaways I've never had an RSL hooked up & I'm still here... Had one cutaway below 500 feet, manually deployed the reserve and walked away - so I know THAT can happen too... Not everybody down & dirty sans RSL reaches room temperature! So like I said, it's a judgement call. I'm not saying jumping without an RSL or MARD safer - but that there are certain instances in which having one adds complications ~ I think people should be aware of that. In the case being discussed in this thread...several things happened which could possibly have changed the outcome from positive to negative -- it seems the MARD didn't work as advertised, bad spinner had the OP on his back during reserve deployment, reserve opened while loaded more on one side, jumper could have fouled the lines and slider with the cable in his hand... But despite all that things turned out ok.... That's usually how it goes & that's great - all I'm saying is from that altitude a stable face to earth deployment would give this jumper even BETTER odds because it would most likely have eliminated many of the 'could have been' problems. You're right about generally playing the odds in your favor - but this instance isn't a generalization it's parameters are specific. This jumper had plenty of altitude to chop get stable and deploy manually and cleanly... In this instance the line twists were more of a problem than impacting due to pulling low. --- for anyone that can skydive themself back to stable in a thousand feet. The judgement call is whether you are competent and comfortable with your skills and situational awareness or not. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  5. Going to miss you brother. DAMNIT. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  6. What is dangerous about them? The reserve is almost always flying straight, with minimal downward velocity of, let's say, 15 ft/sec. Plenty of time to untwist. Much better than burning altitude freefalling at 176 ft/sec, trying to get stable, thus opening much lower, or not at all... Kind of a judgement call IMO. I can get stable pretty quick & when I'm down to 'it either works or game over', I like being in a stable launch position. Nothing wrong with using available altitude to insure that...again 'in MY opinion'. I'm very comfortable with my hard deck, I have time to do it right. "What's dangerous about them?" ~ mainly you have no control of where you are going, in crowded skies that can mean a wrap...sure would suck to be stuck in a severe wrap @ 2000' & be all out of parachutes. Weigh that against a cleanly opened reserve under control @ 1500'...which is still twice as high as your AAD is set. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  7. Nice job not gettin' dead! I took a look at the video & have a few comments as well. pic a ~ something looks a bit weird with the hook, maybe the PC hung a second? pics b & b1 ~ notice how your risers aren't equal, see how the front risers have tension but the rears have slack...you loaded the reserve pretty squirrely. Something tells me it didn't come out of the tray & off your back right...I'd bet the line twist was caused more by that than your spinning. But then again - spinning bad enough could be the cause it didn't come off cleanly. pics c & c1 ~ Back when I had hair like Bozo, we were taught to throw the handles after pulling...that insured there wouldn't be anything flying around the lines possibly causing an entanglement. Obviously most people don't do that anymore, but just something to think about...what would you have done if that cable had half-hitched around the line twist and slider? See how the reserve risers aren't symmetrical...if you would have 'locked' it up like that, she would have started to spin. On a 7 cells reserve it would likely be survivable...likely. Personally- considering the altitude, I probably would have stowed the handles in my mouth and made sure my hands were clear before reaching like that...but that's me, what do I know. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  8. In that case you're loading one side of the canopy more than the other, at least for a short time. That will usually cause a harder than normal opening...and depending on the canopy & it's general condition may cause some damage if the uneven loading is extreme enough. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  9. I'd be using my well honed skills in combat RW to be stacking fat people under me. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  10. Been around for 29 years and never heard of such a thing. A lot of boogie events and competitions that drew participants from all over would do that. As part of registration, they would have a rigger check all gear for whatever recent set of gear problems had been happening, like leg strap replacements, soft 3-rings, or whatever. Or just checking general safety items like riser wear and reserve seals. And then they would put a colored or coded cable tie on the handle to show that the rig had been inspected and passed. I've also seen this used as a means of showing that the boogie fee was paid, so that as people are boarding the plane, the DZ employee can scan all the jumpers and see that they're not sneaking on for free. Many jumpers would not remove those ties after each boogie, and would accumulate quite a collection, as a sign of how well-traveled they were. They became like a badge of honor. Nowadays they seem to use those plastic hospital wrist-bands instead. Want to drink the free boogie beer? Let me see your wrist band, buddy! I follow the premise and have seen all kinds of inspection and boogie fee tags, just not a seal on a reserve r/c. I've seen that in the midwest Chuck ~ it was supposed to curtail the faking of said inspection and one could usually buy the plastic tabs cheaper than the registration fee. Also gave point of reference as to who okay some rig that may later have found to not be in compliance. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  11. You obviously skipped over that most very important part of the skydivers handbook - the decisions you make early on have a later effect... Long time ago I just married a rich aerobatic pilot - she has her thing on weekends & I have mine! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  12. I'm glad that you're so experienced that you know that when I recount my experience of how easy it was to pull the pillow in a stressful situation with non-functioning hands in a thread labelled "ring or pillow and why", I really mean "I know it all". I didn't know the thread was called "let's all decide the best one and then argue with anybody who disagrees". I mean, are you literally telling me my experience doesn't count? That I should have had a d-ring in that situation? I didn't have a D-ring, I had a pillow, and it worked perfectly. Maybe it was my opening statement that confused you. That didn't actually have anything to do with d-rings. Let me say it more straight-forwardly: If that one video of a gopro hooking a d-ring is a great example of why people shouldn't use gopros, then the other videos or articles I've read of accidental pulls must be great examples of why people shouldn't do the other types of dives. But they're not. Attitude, awareness, practice and repetition are more important than the specific equipment. Your expierence is valid - for exactly what it is, a one time event that can't realistically be used as a comparison because you didn't try deploying under similar circumstances with a metal D ring You say you doubt you would have been able to utilize a ring handle... But you don't know that as fact & since it appears you aren't familiar with HOW to use a D ring, your conclusion is frankly meaningless. I'm not capping on you here - your choice is your choice and I personally don't care... However, when you justify that choice by throwing out what amounts to absurd examples - I gotta call you on it & present the opposing view. Hopefully someone with less expierence than you & me might be able to make a more educated choice when they have the option. Nearly all aspects of this sport are an 'odds game'... Odds are you will go your whole career in the sport and not have a problem because of your choice in handles... But...that's not a 100% gaureente. And it's been my expierence than when one thing goes against you it's usually in combination with one or more other things that weren't expected. My philosophy is better your odds in every possible and practical aspect... You never know when that extra point or two in the realm of odds in your favor may make the difference. IF that extra margin however slight isn't important to you - that's your call. But better to call it what it is than make a case for the decision that's not factually accurate, and just may encourage someone else to follow it - believing they're adding to their odds of survival when the contrary is true. Bottom line - in any real world circumstances I have seen or heard of - a solid ring reserve handle is better as it's faster to use and easier to find. Better by how much is obviously the arguable point - if whatever that actual value is...isn't of concern to an individual- That's kewl. We all make personal choices which effect our 'odds' of survival. Ya gotta admit, when even Mr. Booth leans toward the better safety aspects of the solid D ring... There just might be some validity there. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  13. I don't think you were taught the fast way to use a D handle... I have 14 reserve rides and only once did I put all my fingers through the handle. Hook your thumb through the ring and punch out, it'll work every time even with broken fingers. You CAN even get a reserve using just the little finger on your right hand. Never had to do it in freefall but tried it in practice and it works...pillow pinky pulling doesn't. You listed several types of dives that you believe require a pillow to be safe...they all are done every day by people using D ring reserve handles. If it was truly an issue I'm pretty sure we'd have heard by now. Again... It's a personal choice and that's fine, but this conversation comes up often & I've never heard a scientific type comparison that in anyway would lead me to believe a pillow is safer than a D ring handle. The best answer I can come up with is let's stand side by side and on 'go' deploy ~ BTDT and so far the soft pillow has always lost. That's really all the proof that I need. Ymmv ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  14. Ring. ~ No question & really there is no logical debate. My D-ring curves in contoured to my rib cage - it's by far less of an actual snag hazard than the pillow on my right side. Your EP drills should show that a sweeping hand hooking a thumb, making a fist as you finish the sweep punching out...is far faster and smoother than a feel & peel. Fast is what you are looking for at reserve time right? Isn't that why everyone loves their skyhook? Doesn't it simply make better sense to go with faster on BOTH ends of the reserve? I'm old and busted but I'll put a C-note against anyone with a pillow on quick draw contests! Using snag as justification for utilizing a harder to pull handle is dangerously flawed logic...simply change the manner you're physically encountering the hazard. It's called situational awareness and it's what ya use to stay alive here. Don't drag your handles across the door frame and you won't have a problem. Don't jump with people who aren't smart enough or skilled enough to stay off your handles. If you choose to opt for form over function that's fine, I don't have a problem with it... But don't try to justify it by convincing yourself it's in some way safer. It's just not, and as is proven in this discussion others may buy into that BS not fully understand the whole thing. Pillows became popular through marketing... They're cheaper to make but cost the customer the same... They're different so once upon a time it showed cool factor. If you can agree speed in all aspects of reserve deployment is critically important - then why choose something demonstrably slower? New isn't always better from the end user standpoint... I sure don't recall a bunch of people complaining about snagging D's before the pillows came out - but isn't 'safety' a great marketing tool to sell ya on something cheaper to make? Even if the reason is more of a justification after the fact - wouldn't sell a lotta pillows with 'it makes me more profit and looks different than your fathers handle' in the full page ads. It's your last bullet - use it wisely. Sure would suck to have 2 seconds to save your ass... But NEED 2.1 ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  15. Well there is a maneuver my examiner forgot to teach me. Good thing too... Never punch them in the head - We would just choke em out or bite them on the neck if they grabbed your thumbs - If you ram your fist into the back of a skull you could screw up your knuckles and not be able to make the next turn. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  16. Apples and oranges... The OP is contemplating a voluntary disassociation - that's a personal decision. A far cry from being involuntarily thinned from the herd. It does however give you 'special snowflake' status! Talk about being in a small minority!! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  17. About 25% of my back is fuzed, couple nine inch rods and a double handfull of screws... I know what you're talking about. First fifty jumps a year after surgery were nerve wracking - what's gonna get ya the opening or the landing. Lol I rigged up a pilot chute controlled reefing system that took care of the openings. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  18. Hi Bill ! The real 'problem' with the Green Star Express IIRC, was that it wasn't the most comfortable rig going. It was like a sheet of plywood on your back stiff. The not so wise 'inside trick' was to stitch rip the threading that held the reserve risers down over the pack tray...loosened things up and let the yoke spread a bit. That threading unfortunately was what held the risers to the harness... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  19. Thanks Keith! ~ just lucky I guess. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  20. OTOH ~ if they DID - the ones left wouldn't be certifiably stupid ones! Sorry...you put it out there Chuck, I kinda had to grab it. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  21. It certainly doesn't cure cancer...but as far as 'get WORLD piece' Umm - I for one have met some VERY interesting ladies in the sport in an effort to further international relations! Peace Out ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  22. That's it in a nutshell, but perhaps it's an oversimplification. When we start we're drawn in by many factors. We STAY for our own reason. Different reasons are a priority for different people...some like the challenge competition offers, some get gratification from teaching, others fun jump just to be around the people. Whatever the motivation one thing seems universal - the sport becomes a huge part of our life, something we not only enjoy but something we need. Over the course of time the shine wears off a bit, maybe family or career rearrange priorities - we still love the sport but not in the Gung-Ho wear a pull-up cord to work everyday kinda way. First indicator you've reached that point is when you tire of answering the same wuffo questions all the time...you tend to find that ya are ONLY wear Skydiving Tees at the DZ these days and not to Christmas dinner with the in-laws. Even further down the road - you may find yourself thinking you've pretty much achieved all the 'goals' you may have had...and heck, not really EVER gonna win a gold at the worlds - or whatever - ...and the same question begins to to come up in your mind more & more often - is this really worth the time, money, divorces etc. You STILL enjoy the sport, but not on the level you once did and maybe not at all for the reasons you were initially attracted. Now throw into that mix, the fact over time you've lost some very dear friends...THAT hits each of us in different ways. Some don't think about it - some maybe think about it too much. SO ~ after whatever period of time...and it varies because no two people or their circumstances are the same - we try to break it all down into some kind of sense. We ask ourself: In MY case - is the risk worth the reward...is there logical justification for participation? ~ That's a question no one can answer FOR you ~ and truthfully, there IS no wrong answer. Speaking personally - into my 39th year of involvement, no one is more surprised than I am that I'm still here! At 18, it was something i'd been fascinated with and thought ~ Hell just give it a try. Over that time I've loved different things about the sport at different times. I've matured in certain ways and watched Skydiving do the same. Skydiving overall has been really good to me, I've made lifelong friends that are as close or more so than family. It's paid the bills at times, taken me all over the planet, opened my eyes to things I never would have seen without being in it & led me down paths I didn't know existed. Having acknowledged all of that - it unequivocally is NOT who I am. It's something I do, so yes it's a part of me - but no more so than any other experience I've had in my life that somehow either by luck or design, I found a way to build on. These days - I revel in the challenge of complex demos, I sometimes miss the weekends I can't hit the DZ, because I thrive on the vibe...it's like a battery that I both need to charge, but also watch that I don't 'over-charge'. Most of all - It's the feeling in my soul that I get when I just jump solo at sunset & stand on my head the whole dive - watching the planet get big and reaffirming I'm alive - THAT is something that to me, is well worth the risk & twice the price of admission!
  23. Did WHAT Top? If even Jan can't get the 'official' version then what are we talking about here? There seem at this point to be so many versions of what took place, how can we tell where the bubblegum stops & the chickenshit begins? I don't 'know' what happened only what I've been told & different people tell it differently...as is the case for most of us - you included...right? Hard to make a valid judgement call relying on 'facts' not in evidence. Honestly I'm starting to think what Jan said above makes pretty good sense ~ at this point the WAY whatever happened was handled, may in fact be a bigger issue & one of greater concern. In reality THAT has broader reaching implications as it possibly figures into ANY incident involving anyone. At this point in time - there are really only two things that can confidently be considered factual... -Something happened that shouldn't have. -It was handled by the office, in a manner unlike any other we know of. Probably nothing 'we' can do about the first ~ Probably something that we can do about the 2nd. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  24. 2nd post & launching a 13 year old thread? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
  25. Firewood....but that's about the whole list. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~