FLYJACK

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  1. This biggest influence on the public believing McCoy was Cooper was the Calame and Rhodes book "The Real McCoy".. One of the foundations of their argument was the tie clasp, they claimed a picture was shown to a relative and it was identified as belonging to McCoy.. sounds convincing right.. but there are two problems. First, Calame and Rhodes misrepresented what actually happened, in the the FBI files the relative stated it looked "similar"... it wasn't a positive identification. Further, the tie had a very well used center "tie pin" hole,, so the tie had a "tie pin" for most or all its existence up to the hijacking. That alligator clip was likely added for the hijacking or shortly before. but Ryan gets the context wrong for informing the passengers of the hijacking. For Cooper the crew took it upon themselves to ask Cooper if he wanted the passengers informed, they instigated the issue, it was not a demand by Cooper. Whereas on other hijackings the crew just announced a hijacking. So, the variation lies with the crew's response not Cooper. If the crew hadn't asked Cooper they could have easily just announced a hijacking to the passengers. Claiming Cooper's MO was different is false. It was the crew's response that was different.
  2. Merry Christmas to you and all the Cooper sleuths,,, even Georger..
  3. It is more than an opinion, it is logic.. You can't know the entire universe that a particle existed in the mid 60's and you can't know that the particle composition is accurate. Those are facts. Just be careful, you guys elevated the TiSb particles from speculation/assumption to fact and used it to run with Vordahl. Some of us knew that was a bogus foundation to build a suspect on. Vordahl has no connection to the Cooper case and the tie has no substantiated connection to Rem Cru or Vordahl... the TiSb Rem Cru connection was over played. The particles are worth exploring but don't make the same mistake twice.
  4. But you can't pin it down because the data is not accurate enough and you can't know every environment for any subset of particles or its place in the entire complex of particles. It isn't science, it is speculation and the danger is to represent it as science.
  5. Too cheap and used for a thrift shop and too dirty, they would have at least cleaned it. That tie had no value in that condition.
  6. How? You can't confirm a registered alloy or even an alloy.. It is like finding mustard on a tie and trying to claim the guy worked in a mustard factory. When it is more likely he just ate a hot dog..
  7. I doubt it had real gold,, They used cheap metals and plating for those things. Some of the stub samples were taken from the location of those clasp marks.. Maybe Tom needs to sort that out.
  8. My take on the tie... It was purchased about 1964/65, very cheap and very dirty, had two tie pin holes and significant dust in the knot area. That essentially rules out a thrift shop.. The tie was worn with a tie pin based on the well worn hole, not the alligator clip. You don't use both a pin and a clip. The alligator clip made the tie easier to remove and was probably added for the hijacking. The tie pin may have been a company/agency pin identifying its source and one reason fo its removal. The dust in the knot area indicates that the tie was not worn for some time, perhaps a few years. It was likely stored hanging in a dusty environment to get the concentration in the knot area. IMO, it was purchased/obtained in 1964/65 for a specific job and used for several years (to 1968/69) with a tie pin, then it was stored upright for a few years until Norjak when the alligator clip was added... Many of the horizontal particle concentrations shown under UV are from the folded tie touching the alligator clip in storage. Many of those particles are from the alligator clip. I have two specific theories for the ownership,, one is Cooper and one is not Cooper. NOT A THRIFT SHOP.
  9. Without a registered alloy you can't research a use.. or environment.
  10. This tells me we can't really rely on the accuracy of the EDS and particles may or may not be alloyed or registered alloys. In other words.. we can't use the particles with any specificity..
  11. I had noticed that there are horizontal lines of concentrated particles on the tie under UV.. At first I thought they were smears as if an object was wiped across the tie which would be odd. However, now I think those smears of particles are from the tie clip... the tie was folded over in storage in different ways over the years.. As it was removed it was put back slightly differently.. In other words,, those lines of concentrated particles are from contact with the clasp when the tie was folded up in storage. The take away... samples were taken from those areas and the particle concentration would be transfer from the tie clasp. and the clasp was on the right.. (the left side was an error)
  12. I was looking at one area/sheet in the file with a concentration of AlMg.. most there do not have a third element and the others are inconsistent. That tells me either McCrone is a bit sketchy or they just aren't alloys.
  13. and Cooper may not have even worn the tie when the particles were deposited.. I found a 100% gold particle... does that mean he was also a gold miner. The particles can be from the plane, from handling or storage post Norjak from fingerprint processing,, plus the life of the tie from about 1965 to 1971... Since the particles are on the backside.. they were deposited from the hands or while not worn. The particles generally fit pyrotechnics, dentistry, electronics and other environments. OR a combination of environments.
  14. I doubled checked the Al Mg particles... Problem,, most show no third element.. and all the registered alloys have trace elements So, either McCrone isn't that accurate for trace elements OR those Al Mg particles are not registered alloys..
  15. How accurate is the McCrone process for the trace stuff on the particles..
  16. It doesn't fit any registered alloy perfectly... at least the vast majority of particles I identified previously. The Mg was about 4.5% and trace elements varied but most contained Ni. My hunch is the source wasn't a registered alloy but I need to go back and check all the AlMg particles...
  17. Try to find Al Mg 4.5-5% with trace Ni... It doesn't have to be a registered alloy..
  18. That is jurisdictional registration not invention... it can exist prior. It says 5056A was redesignated 5019 (in 1972) But the tie particles had Ni as the third element. The only one shown with Ni is 5283.. registered after Norjak. and that is not correct.. powdered magnalium can be in 5% Mg.. though it can range. It is in the post.. Powdered magnalium Al 95 Mg 5 https://www.nanochemazone.com/product/magnalium-powder/ Magnalium is a general term for aluminum with magnesium.. the ratio can range but the most common is mg 5%..
  19. For decades the dominant narrative was that Cooper demanded airstairs down on takeoff,, that led to the reasonable conclusion that he wanted to jump ASAP. But since Cooper's initial demand was actually airstairs lowered in flight.. That changes things.. and we can explore other theories. Cooper never gave flight path instructions.. he may have intended to do that in the air. Cooper didn't jump where he initially planned.. he likely intended to jump more South. Cooper believed the plane could make Mexico.. he may have wanted the plane to fly gear down flaps down when the stairs were lowered inflight.
  20. I posted about those ALMG5 particles a year ago,,, It is Aluminum alloy 5019.. or Magnalium which is commonly Ti 95% Mg 5% but the ratio can vary. https://www.makeitfrom.com/material-properties/5019-AlMg5-3.3555-A95019-Aluminum https://procure-net.com/product/aluminum-alloy-5019-wire-8/ Industries and Applications: Beyond its raw strength and durability, the Aluminum Alloy 5019 Wire is also versatile, finding its application across several industries: Aerospace: Frequently used in aircraft structures, including frames, panels, connectors offering lightweight and durable solutions. Automotive: Ideally suited for automotive parts like body panels, chassis components, engine components, delivering high strength and corrosion resistance. Construction: Trusted in building projects such as building frames, scaffolding, roofing due to its ability to resist harsh conditions and maintain structural strength. Electrical: Utilized in electrical wiring in buildings, power transmission lines, electrical connectors thanks to its high conductivity and oxidation resistance. Marine: The wire's saltwater corrosion resistance makes it ideal for marine applications, including boat manufacturing and offshore construction. also called.. Magnalium https://www.sciencemadness.org/smwiki/index.php/Magnalium https://www.nanochemazone.com/product/magnalium-powder/ Description: Magnalium Powder is widely used in aircrafts and automobile parts and is highly appreciated for its perfect results. It allows greater strength when added in small quantity along with greater corrosion resistance. Used in Fireworks applications for making flickering effects in aerial shots / crackling sound & shining sparks in sparklers / fountains//twinklers, Ferro alloys, Foundry flux, Ordnance, Refractory bricks, Welding electrodes applications etc. Application: Magnalium is an aluminium alloy with 5% magnesium and 95% aluminum.
  21. Timeline.. FIRST Transmission of demands. 6:21 PST (before) Pass loading door open and airstairs lowered after takeoff 6:15 PST (18:15 CST ) Aft door open and aft stairs lowered inflight. CONFIRMS ABOVE TRANSMISSION 6:38 PST (before) Wants girl to manipulate stairs after airborne Have tried to tell him (how) to operate stairs to lowered after takeoff Trying to get him to let us lower stairs partially for takeoff (The crew may have initiated stairs lowered on takeoff as they were trying to get Tina off the plane, it isn't clear) 6:35 PST Wants one girl to lower stairs. (Cooper still wants lowered in flight) Soderlind wants stairs locked at takeoff.. responding to above crew suggestion to partially lower/lock, 6:59 PST (before) Cooper still wants Tina to stay. Insists stairs in 1 deg.. (That may mean airstairs unlocked OR they mixed up AFT DOOR open with AFT STAIRS open) Still wants girl to initiate lowering of stairs. This doesn't make sense if Cooper wanted the stairs down on takeoff. 7:05 (before) Advised Cooper.. can't takeoff with door down 7:22 (before) Has agreed to takeoff with stairs in full upright position. 100% fact.. Cooper's initial demand was airstairs lowered in flight.. The crew first suggested stairs partially open to get Tina off the plane. It isn't clear what Cooper actually wanted, either Cooper agreed to have the stairs partially open for takeoff then the crew had to convince him have them closed OR the communication between Cooper and the crew via Tina conflated the "open aft door" and the "open aft stairs".. The crew may have misunderstood Cooper's demands passing through TIna.. perhaps Cooper was insisting the aft (bulkhead) door open and the message going through Tina was received as aft stair open. it isn't clear as we only have what the crew believed. But, this is supported by the fact that he still wanted Tina to lower the stairs and that doesn't make sense if Cooper wanted the stairs down on takeoff.
  22. Aft entry door.. "open" is the rear bulkhead door.. I think that is part of the confusion over the years,, the rear door vs airstairs.
  23. I find it a bit disturbing that long time researchers still can't acknowledge basic evidence.. If you check the comm sequence, it is clear. Cooper initially demanded airstairs lowered inflight. then when Reno was in play lowered on takeoff. then he finally accepted lowered inflight. This FBI document confirms it. There is no wiggle room.
  24. No it wasn't, it was the very first transmission of the demands.. later they discuss airstairs lowered for takeoff. Look for yourself. The Harrison notes confirm it, the FBI files confirm that Cooper initially demanded lowered in flight.. then changed to lowered on takeoff when Reno was negotiated. It is indisputable and a big deal that most people continue to get wrong.
  25. This is a myth that has gone on forever.. and created false theories. Cooper's initial demand was airstairs lowered inflight.. later, when Reno was in play during negotiations airstairs lowered on takeoff came up. I have gone over this many times, it is 100% proven in documents that his initial demand was airstairs lowered inflight. It says so right in the crew transcript of his initial demands you just read above and claimed the contrary. "AFT STAIRS TO BE LWD AFTER TKOFF"