CornishChris

..and loads of Tories registered as voters of the Labour party and voted for Corbyn, who eventually won, thus providing Labour with an almost unelectable leader! Every system has it's flaws, although the US system does seem to take longer than most... CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

I knew all the answers except the year of independence. I'm British. I think a similar survey in the UK would throw up similar issues. The youth are, generally, totally disconnected to the system! CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

If you really believe this then you are perpetuating the thread title quite effectively. How many times does something have to be disproved before you will believe it? CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

*** yeah... a properly maintained modern firearm in working order will not discharge when dropped. Yes, that was a well qualified statement. Tell that to some of these idiots: http://dependviral.com/new-the-best-shooting-gun-fail-2015/ CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

If only the gun shop owner had had access to guns, this would never have happened... CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

Serious question. Who are the people that are putting Trump so far in the lead? This freak show just gets more and more bizarre and yet some people, presumably with at least some form of education, believe that this man (and potentially this woman) are the right person to lead one of the most powerful nations on earth. I honestly find Trump's popularity disturbing to the point of terrifying! CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

I tend to find the BBC pretty unbiased. I think that is because of the way it is paid for (by a license fee that all TV owners pay(generally)) so that it has to be representative of everyone and can't be perceived as biased. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

I have watched it all and also done a reasonable amount of reading up on it. A few points on the above: A) Yes, she is. B) It is most likely that she was burned in a quarry about 3 miles from the yard and then moved there in a barrel and dumped on the fire pit. Bones were found in the quarry, the barrel and the fire pit but there is no reason for them to be moved from the Avery's to the quarry at all so logic makes it the other way round. Also the fire wouldn't have burned hot enough in the fire pit to burn her to the extent she was burned. C) He was there but he has a pretty good alibi: calls from prison, seen by others etc. I think the line I read that summed it up for me the most (and I believe he is innocent) is that he can't be both a criminal mastermind and a bumbling idiot. Apparently he can expertly clean up DNA from a gunshot in a cluttered garage, leaving no evidence at all, but he can't wipe his own blood off the car. He can simultaneously hide evidence of his crimes whilst leaving a key in his bedroom and a car on his own property. The problem with the case lies in that TA is dead and is found on his property so it is either: a) Him, b) One of his relatives who live on the property (I think this is most likely, probably his brother in law but no evidence really for this, just a gut feel), c) A random 3rd party who knows SA is likely to take the fall or d) the cops (very unlikely). In my mind there is no doubt at all that, regardless of who killed her, SA was framed for the murder - the key, the blood, the lack of physical evidence, the bullet and Lenk all make it look like they had decided on the murderer and built the case around it rather than using the evidence to point to the guilty party. What is most disturbing about the whole thing, to me, is his nephew. The video of the defense council's "investigator" getting his statement is some of the most disturbing TV I have ever watched. This kid is essentially mentally handicapped and is coerced into his testimony by cops and this investigator - for fucks sake they use this statement as a evidence for the prosecution. It is utterly outrageous and I am 100% sure that kid had nothing to do with any murder and yet he will rot in prison until 2048 at the earliest unless his case is reopened. As with Adnan Syed in Serial, these shows highlight the very worst of the US legal system and it is truly scary to watch. Decide who you think is guilty and then build a case to get them, regardless of who actually committed the crime. Add to this 'Trial by Media' and you have a really fucked up situation. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

Are you getting excited? Do we have a definitive date to look forward to that I can add to the list of failed doomsday prophecies once it passes or are you remaining vague to hedge your bets? CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

No one? You make it sound like you are not in the minority... CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

Frankie Boyle. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

Here is a quote from a Scottish comedian that sums this argument up, particularly the second paragraph: That’s not to say it isn’t hellish for the people [those trying to get into our country] living it. We invade their countries and justify it by saying that our way of life is better, then boggle at the idea they might think living here is great. We pay no attention to how our actions in other countries have precipitated this situation. There has to be something wrong with a world where the best employment option for a farmer in sub-Saharan Africa isn’t being a farmer in sub-Saharan Africa, but crossing the Mediterranean on a punctured lilo, only to spend days dangling under a lorry so that he can end up selling lollipops in a nightclub toilet. Our indifference is staggering. For a lot of these people, their best chance of survival may be to dress up as a leopard and hope to get Twitter onside. Of course, the true existential threat to us might come from ourselves. If we can look at another human being and categorise them as “illegal”, or that chilling American word “alien”, then what has become of our own humanity? To support policies that dehumanise others is to dehumanise yourself. I think most people resist that, but are pressed towards it by an increasingly sadistic elite. If you’re worried about threats to your way of life, look to the people who are selling your public services out from under you. The people who will destroy this society are already here: printing their own money, printing their own newspapers, and responding to undesirables at the gates by releasing the hounds. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

The betting odds disagree with you... http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/winner CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

I'm not sure why you think my mind is made up, or indeed what it is made up to? Please enlighten me. I asked if any Muslims on DZ.com had threatened to slit peoples throats, as you asked if any Christians had, which implied that Muslims had already done so. James 1:20 "because human anger does not produce the righteousness that God desires." A good sentiment. I am not a believer but nice to see a sensible edict to run ones life by if you choose to beliece. In the same way that Dear did not represent 99.99% of Christians, these two shooters in San Bernadino (not all of ISIS for that matter) do not represent 99.99% of Muslims. On this, I hope, we are agreed. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

Have any of the Muslims on here done that? A crazy minority should not mar the whole group. Is the crazy Christian who shot up Planned Parenthood indicative of all Christians? CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

My point exactly. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

A very strange website you linked to. It claims that America is number five in terms of frequency of shootings then shows a list where the next highest number of mass shootings, behind America's 38, is 3. It is using weird statistics to get it's point across. Take the same numbers and apply a different statistic and you could take from this information that America has 1266% more mass shootings than the next country, an equally baffling number. Also, there has been a lot in the news about the frequency of mass shootings in the US, claiming 355 this year (which may already be out of date...) (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/02/the-san-bernardino-mass-shooting-is-the-second-today-and-the-355th-this-year/) so where their figure of 38 over 4 years comes from is baffling. Additionally RushMC's unattributed quote above states: The 355 figure is of shootings of more than 4 people. Let's do some very simple maths: 4X355 = 1420. So how does this quote bear any weight? BTW, I googled it: Fox News. Oh well. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

Of course not. That is the one true religion. Ramen. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

http://www.someecards.com/entertainment/tv/waleed-aly-isis/ The above is a link to a comment from an Australian Muslim about ISIS and how Ron is almost doing their work for them. I recommend all participating in this discussion watch it. Are you a Star Trek fan Ron? Did you know George Takei was in a Japanese internment camp, you should look up some of his interviews about how horrific it was. I like to think the world has moved on since the Second World War but apparently in some parts it has not. I honestly do not understand how you can hold the beliefs and prejudices you do and still righteously call yourself a Christian and try to convert others to the warped way in which you view the world. I hold all with extreme religious beliefs in the same equal contempt, be they Christian, Muslim or whatever other entirely made-up ideology they follow. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

I heard about this on the news today. Along with the whole 'Serial' case it staggers me that people can be kept in prison when there is overwhelming evidence of their innocence, or at very least very little evidence of their guilt. I wonder how many others have been incarcerated and then forgotten in similar cases... CJP CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

This. Very eloquently put. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

For another perspective on the killing of the lion this is worth a listen: http://www.radiolab.org/story/rhino-hunter/ It's about a person who paid to kill a rhino. Just to be clear I am totally against this but it is interesting to hear a relatively balanced piece on it, rather than the hysteria. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

For another perspective on the killing of the lion this is worth a listen: http://www.radiolab.org/story/rhino-hunter/ It's about a person who paid to kill a rhino. Just to be clear I am totally against this but it is interesting to hear a relatively balanced piece on it, rather than the hysteria. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

It's been added to the list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

I don't understand how they have made it your business. Can you explain? CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people