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how about "breakfast"?

I wonder what they taste like with scrambled eggs with a little olive oil? Gonna need a can opener though....

Look up SexJerky.....

Uhhh......... OJ is innocent.... MJ has sex with WOMEN..... Bush is a good public speaker.... Sure.........thats the ticket....

Can we still BASE from the planes?

Wow, old post. So, Steph....HOW did I miss YOU at Mollala last month? Glad someone convinced you to take the plunge...

Please tell us you have pics......

Someone's got to take care of the fat chicks...... Sheep or Fatties......Hhhrrmmmmm....... I guess they are both fun to ride till your friends see you on one.

Pffft.......try $75 to fill. Unfortunately trucks are neccesary for contruction work. Friggin sucks.

Trae, Lev, Vert......Had I thought about all the commotion this would have caused, I would'nt of posted my thoughts. Posting that was not one of my best moves, nor thought out ones. Unfortunately, this site has restricted members from removing posts after 6 hours for some reason. I requested 2 times that it be removed by a moderator, and both times I was for the most part, told to pound sand. Good things have come of this post though. Differing attitudes leading to many concerns and safety issues for the masses to read and consider before undertaking the responsibiliy to jump a ball. For those that had it in their head to make one and jump it regardless, at least they have a bit more information to make a ball that will fly better than one that was made terribly wrong. Should they? No.

Too bad you have to head back up here where the whole landing area is a pond........2 inches deep.....all winter....... Maybe I can get my shit out there before the weather hits......or more than likely next year.

Olav can kiss my 'Freeflying' ass...... (tm) that......

Each circumstance deserves its own set of rules. Not every break off is going to be the same. Like a 3 way with close friends that I have jumped with all the time, that are there the whole jump, you can backtrack off while giving each one their own respective finger jesture and be on your merry way. Then there is the jump that has many differing skill levels, like hybrids. Usually the lower jump #'s are belly in the base and if the exit goes to shit, watch out......people are everywhere. At breakoff, you could have peeps 1000' above or below. Your head better be a damn fast swivel and multi-positional tracking must ensue with the afterburners in high gear. Every jump is different. Knowing where people are all of the time is the trick. Seems impossible sometimes, but it is a must for your and their safety. If you cannot backtrack quite yet, then limit your group to small #'s that are easier to keep track of. Learn to backtrack with 2 ways, and make sure the other guy is good enough to avoid ya! Not meant for you Andyman, just the masses!

Its people like you that make the sport ugly sometimes. Nothing to offer but negatives.....looking down on the lesser jump #'s. Regardless of # or currency, you degrade those that you have never met, nor jumped with. You make your statements based on conjecture and lack of actual facts. What I said still stands accurate and true. If you have something new that you would like to share about the topic, please, by all measures, adorn us with your knowledge.

Levin....Keep this in mind..... No matter what you think about my post on a personal level, its correct. Regardless of jump numbers, Mr. Skygod. Your statements are an echo of what I and others have already said. A little late dude. Your comments are coming across as a rant because of it. And yes, I am talented enought to jump spaceballs. Working on my AD B routine. Does that piss you off that much to hear it? Boo Hoo.

Agreed CCowden. Always have a ballmaster or a very experienced ball handler when going out the first time. All this talk about balls makes me want to go jump one.

I'll help ya here. What you do with it is your biz, just be safe about the area that you are jumping it in and make sure you check with your DZO and the pilot. Ok, now, its not about weight. Its about tail length. Fill the ball, and I mean FILL the ball with #9 lead bird shot. The fuller the better. This is because the stability of the ball is dependent on how dense the core is. If you do not fill it and leave voids, the ball's CG will shift in freefall and it will drift side to side. This makes it very hard to catch. So after the ball is full, tie a knot in the end of a pull up cord, stuff the knot in the slit in the ball, and super glue the opening closed. Now the trick is cutting the tail to the length you need for your desired fall rate. Note I said DESIRED fall rate, not YOUR FALL RATE. This is important because you should be able to fall as fast or as slow as the ball is going to go. If you cannot keep up with a spaceball at 190 and catch it, dont jump one. If you cannot fall as slow as 140 and keep stable and catch it, dont jump one. I have a ball that has a tail that is 3.5 inches long. It rips at 170-175. Its fast and fun. Not a beginner ball. The best thing for you to do is find someone that has a spaceball that he has already jumped and can do proficiently. Go out with him and let him jump it right in front of you. Find out the fall rate of the jump and that can be your baseline for figuring out what would fit your needs best. The trick here is not finding out the formula by yourself. Its just not safe unless you in the middle of MOAB or AZ desert. Still there is the possiblity that you could hit something. And besides, losing a ball has a stigma to it. Dont be that guy. And I dont mean follow it to 1000' trying to catch it, I mean be good enough to catch it, no matter the fall rate. Good luck dude....spaceballs are a shitload of fun. And carry a huge responsibility. Be safe. ps. but to answer your question.... my balls weight 1lb 4-5 oz. Yeah........big heavy balls I have. Their furry too....

Do I need to bring you one of my used torn duty "T" shirts when I come back down? Would you like it washed or not? ps, I have one that smells like McDonalds fries....they tried to burn their establishment down last shift. Grease fires are fun!

Hey Sky, So, ya wanna come visit the home of the Canucks, eh? My group of friends/jumpers, mostly from Pacific Skydivers in Pitt Meadows, can offer you a guided tour of the best parts of Vancouver. Not only do many of us actually live in the city, but have many connections on where to go, what to do, and the best eating establishments to visit. Wanna BASE? Hell, I can even hook you up with that.....right downtown! By the way, you picked a great time of year to visit the Pac. NW. The weather and climate is amazing here during Sept....... usually. Let me know what your plans are and I will make some arrangements for a large group crawl of downtown Van, and some jumpin in Pitt. Heck, if you visit during the 17th/18th, you can take part in our 4 way scrambles that we have going on. Pig roast and all. Its a good time. Let me know. B.

Oh sorry, I didnt know I was talking to a woman. My bad.

Fine with me dude. You will get what you ask for. Besides, I do not accept ignorance in my camp anyways. You and Amazon will do well together.

Perhaps you should limit your input to issues that you know something about then. Your freedom is not free of dumb. Gratuitous enough for ya?

If you had any ability to see the direction I went with that, you would have read that I was painting a picture. But since you need your hand held, and a deciphering ring I am not going to sit here and explain to you what everyone else has been able to grasp. Intetesting how you leave out the part that ties it all in. Are you a relative of hers?

Hmmmm, this has a familiar ring to it. Like about the 5th Sabre2 slammer reported recently. Just be glad you didn't get injured like some others. I've said it before......beware of the Sabre2 folks. It has skeletons remaining from the Sabre1 days. Type in Sabre 2 hard openings in the search posts engine. You will find alot. And learn to pack for yourself soon, as that will help you figure out what happened.

Ya know, I really dont mind how much you try to legitmize your rant. All you are doing is showing the whole skydiving community how much of a nasty, evil, angry person you are. You talk of the Pilot canopy as a high performance elliptical. That is what you try to portray to the unknowing by not saying what the canopy name was. All you say is elliptical. If you think the Pilot is too aggressive then you better talk to all of the Sabre2 owners under 200 jumps as well. If you are really this misinformed, then you must be in a dark, cramped, damp space that smells like poo. As for holding the people responsible for selling a canopy to a person that is not ready for it, perhaps we should seek out the inidividual that sold you your Samurai. After watching your inibilty to fly the pattern instructed to you by Luke Aikens himself and then hook it so low that you skipped across the swamp at his house, narrowly averting a sure femur, I really think we need to string that guy up for selling you a canopy way over your skill level. Keep it up for all I care......its about time everyone in skyberspace that hasn't had the "pleasure" of meeting you in person, to know the real Amazon. The gun collecting, concealed pistol carrying, ex-military, bodily harm threatening, horrible person you really are. Keep on this track and you will have hoards of people hating you within a small tight-knit community. "It's a good thing"