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Their stuff might be in stock at other vendors, just refrain from transfering money to Doug Park, Yvonne Gnirss, Sky Systems, The Mpk Group and other fake companies mentioned above. As you won't see neither your money nor the stuff, no matter how much they will promise you in the emails. Couple vendors were able to collect the payments/items through the court, but Doug technically abandoned the Sky Systems, so there is no way you can get anything from that. His schemas are well described above.

He realized he wouldn't be able to steal money from you this time. You wasted his time :)

That is sick! Why this piece of shit is still able to run his schemas? This is a clear fraud. I wan to point out that it's both Doug Park and Yvonne Gnirss are involved in their family fraud business. She is helping him with all the accounting, etc.

Flexhead, if that is true, I do apologize for including Carey Whitley in the post. I only mentioned him at the beginning as he was listed as one of the co-owners of Sky Systems USA at some point. The forum doesn't let me edit older posts, but thanks for the clarification, this definitely helps. Also the lack of coverage on this topic surprises me. It's been about 3 years, but very little information came out. I do remember that Sky Systems USA had a stand in the past PIA Symposiums and no one did anything about it. Which is because nobody spoke about it. If anyone knows, I would ask to share Doug's and Yvonne's USPA membership numbers and any information possible to make their life harder. Especially make it harder for them to open new schemas. Assholes should be kept accountable for the shit they do.

Got couple private messages asking for the clarification, so posting it here: The websites listed above don't show anything yet. That is because the names were just recently registered and I assume the websites themselves are not ready yet. But the owner can be easily verified by the register they were made from: https://who.godaddy.com Just enter each of those domain names you will see full info on who and when registered them. There are even phone numbers linked to those names that all go to Doug's voicemail. Also thempkgroup.com is one more I forgot to mention. Clearly some new "schemas" are on the way.

UPD: For the money they stole, they are actively registering new schemas. Here is the list of domains registered by Doug for the past several months: ClimbItGear.com fly360clothing.com doitgear.com Playitgear.com Doug, Yvonne, return the money you stole from the fellow skydivers! The world is small. P.S. to all who happen to know them, please pass this message.

Stuff like that makes me upset. How come "respectable" people like: Doug Park (16000+ skydives), Carey Whitley (4400+ Skydives), Yvonne Gnirss (1500+ skydives) with lots of achievements can sleep at night and light-heartedly enjoy the life after screwing fellow skydivers. As many of you know they collected money within a couple years for the equipment and pre-orders of C6 Air which never came out. Fed the community with tons of BS about "give us a bit more, we are almost ready" and eventually just spit in everyone's face and disappear. https://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Deland/r-carey-whitley-P3858733.aspx The company Sky Systems USA, Inc. is technically still active, but they completely dumped it. Even their accountant contractor filed a letter of resignation in NC (https://www.secretary.state.nc.us/Search/filings/10552087) Doug Park feels himself just fine by joining (or starting, not sure) the company called The MPK Group Inc. which is doing about the same. https://www.linkedin.com/in/doug-park-98a31137 https://www.facebook.com/doug.park.35 Yvonne Gnirrs just opened another company called Think Helmet which is also doing the same http://atgsites.com/think_helmet https://www.facebook.com/yvonne.gnirss Nobody of them replying to any sources of communication, they all have public profiles, business contacts, emails, etc etc. They simply ignore all that, no matter what you say or ask. I call this fraud. Unfortunately I am not in NC to pursue any legal actions in the name of fellow skydivers which I always believed is a small, but strong family of likeminded people. I tried to get the NC consumer protection department to communicate with them, but Sky Systems never replied to any of the inquiries. According to those records Yvonne & Carey Whitley just tried to cut the profits and sued each other (http://www.news-journalonline.com/article/20130524/news/305249997?tc=ar) after that they as the company started to lie, I do even remember their FB page with some "very respectable" skydiver taking over the PR and promising the soonest resolution. Where are all those promises now? Where is all that "respectability"? I honestly wish them all good, as anything has a reason, but I wouldn't be surprised if they wouldn't find the happiness at the end. Karma is a bitch.

Why I can't vote both? I voted "No", but Also I really want to vote boobs too ;)

Oh well :)

Is that with reserve or its just loaded h/c?

Hello everyone, I just got off my AFF and trying to get my first rig. I'm a heavy guy 240 lbs 6'2. I assume that H/C for me needs to be tso'd for exit weight up to 300lbs? Does that mean that I have to make sure that I'm not busting TSO? Otherwise DZO will not let me jump? may I use PD reserve or similar that is 250 sqf if my exit weight ~260 lbs? I spend a lot of time reading all these "gear for a big boys" threads and seems like I don't really have many options, but go for a new gear that is TSO's for up to 300lbs? I believe its called TSO23d? Thanks Alex

Hello, my name is Alex, just got my AFF done, working on my "A" and lurking around this forum.