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I'd be buying, yes. I really don't want to get into the "what rig is suitable for me" are - I have other threads like that and it's not what I'm asking right now, the thread will easily get derailed.

Indeed - it's very common, though, unfortunately. I can fly a 190 so I'm not too worried. It it was a 170 or something then it would rule out this rig for me.

> 1998 Fury 220, 86 jumps > 2004 Techno 190 reserve, 0 rides > 1992 Vector II, 500 jumps - with new velcro, new risers, new leg pads, new chest strap, elastics, and possibly some other bits All checked and serviced. No AAD. Can I have some estimates as to its value? The colours are fairly plain and neutral, I should add! Thanks,

I can set up a PayPal if you want. How much are we thinking? $15 a day? Cheaper than actually jumping... yea, go on then.

sorry, I tried to edit but ended up quoting myself.

I'd gladly pay NOT to wear one...

I remember basically nothing from my first few jumps, just tiny flashes of confusion and fumbling through my exercises. The first time I remember an actual scene from was AFF level 4. Then after a few more you start to forget them because they get so boring ;)

You do realize that that's a hell of a red flag, right? Scam or stolen are what come to mind first. It's possible it was a "yard sale find" or something like that, but if the guy is claiming a rating that doesn't exist, I'd be very suspicious. I think it's a legit rating in the UK, it seems. Under the BPA. The guy had about 150 transactions on his eBay account including a handful of skydiving-related items. I reckon it was probably legit but he just couldn't be bothered to give much info, considering that it was a £300 rig he was selling on behalf of someone else, maybe getting a 10% cut or something.

Hmm I just measured and got 36" for my inseam! Might be an over-measurement, though. Damn the vendor for being so awkward, it took several of us pestering him to get any info about the harness, container or canopy sizes. It only sold for £320 in the end, no doubt could have been double that if it was advertised properly and through the normal channels. Quite strange, it was on eBay but the guy claimed to be an "advanced rigger" or something, but seemed to have little knowledge of what he was selling... It would have been worth the risk, I reckon, at that price. Next time some shit kit comes up I should just buy it, it will be incredibly easy to sell on if I want to.

Thanks, the rig has sold now anyway but I'll know in future!

Of course - not possible in this situation, unfortunately. It's being sold cheap and the vendor is unwilling to send it to my DZ to try on before I buy it. Probably not worth the trouble for that amount of money. It makes it a risky purchase but it's cheap and fewer people will be interested...

I have the option of purchasing a crappy old rig that might be just right for me, except the container (Javelin, DOM 1994) has a harness size of C16 which fits 5'7-5'8 according to: http://sunpath.com/old/web_en/index.php?menu_level1=3&menu_level2=4 I'm just about 6ft and of a medium to slim build. Is there any way this would fit me, realistically? I've been jumping random rental rigs and I've never even checked their harness sizes, I must admit. Thanks for any quick responses!

Thanks for the advice. I will be about 210lbs exit weight. I just want any kit to get me off rental gear, which ideally I could sell on in 100 jumps time - but who knows where I'll be then? I've now been looking for kit for well over six months and it's only a few times I've seen a 190, let alone a 200+. Very rare. I've been jumping rental Nav 240's mostly so far, so as long it's not worse than those (they seem fine!) then I won't notice or mind.

Oh right, I see. I guess 350 jumps and 12 years old (is 2000 really that long ago?!) isn't too bad? £200 is the asking price.

I might purchase a second-hand Fury 220 that was made in December 2000. It has 350 jumps on it, apparently. I know at least the older Fury canopies were F111, but are newer ones ZP? Will this be, from 2000? Thanks,

well done, OP. Some of you others - were you injured in skydiving accidents?

I'm too slow and shy so I let all the other guys go first and then all the good ones are taken, so I pick up a huge, dirty old thing that just had its flaps tucked in for the tenth time that day by a pothead in the corner. I try to ignore the depressing fact that I have to pay to rent one and can't just get my own, and remind myself that many people would love a chance to do this. Then for 20 minutes we sit around awkwardly in a cramped, crowded and incredibly noisy environment, as I try to get to know her a bit. I feel envious of the confident chaps laughing and joking about their exploits - some sick bastards are even going to film each other. Then I can delay things no longer - the lights come on and they fling the door open, and it's time for everyone to leave. I give her one last grope and then get going. What happens next is between me and her - it's not a pretty picture and I'm glad no one else is around to see it. The next day I wake up with a sore back and chaffed thighs, and my wallet suspiciously empty. True story.

Nah, I accept that that's how things work. In any field, in fact. Whenever you start a new job, for example, perhaps you receive training on the official and proper way to do things, but then when you get into it you see that in reality everything would grind to a halt if people followed the rules.

What I mean is that if you did everything by the book, you'd never fit in with the DZ "machine" as it runs day to day, commercially and socially. No time for formal gear checks, hurry up and get your fucking kit on - someone will eye it over for you in the pen. Want to check the spot? Fuck that, we've got 14 people behind you so hurry up and get out. Wind's picking up a bit, feeling nervous? Don't be a pussy, you're on the manifest so get on the plane. Decide to cut away? No matter what, you didn't need to.

I've never had a cut away but another relatively new jumper (

I'd like to have even a few seconds to spot and look around before I have to get out, but on a commercial DZ with tandems waiting behind a handful of club jumpers, we have to just GTFO when we're told to. Usually the jump master (often a camera man since he's not engaged with the tandems so closely) will give a hand signal for each jumper or group and if you hang around you may well get a shove or at least a telling off later. I'm going to claim to be doing some tracking jumps so I get to be the last one out, then I can take at least 10-15s to have a look at the ground before the pilot starts banking to try and tip me out.

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There were very tight entry criteria.