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True, but it's funny how they explain a novice wouldn't notice the difference and yet a veteran didn't catch it either when he picked it up..a cardboard box is a cardboard box when you pick it up. if something is in it, you know pretty fast. if the chute was lighter and oddly packed it should of been caught by a veteran. this has bothered me for some time now. either it never really made it on the plane or they all new it made it on the plane and made it appear to be a mistake..just a hunch..

You have to wonder, sort of like the placard. when you look at the document from 2001 chute find they describe a front chute with white lines and a white canopy with "Norm D" inscribed on the container as part of the evidence or chutes used in the hijacking. we are obviously missing documents. this wouldn't be a mistake in typing something about the chutes. when that document was typed, they got the information from somewhere. Norm D is nowhere close to "Johnson" and nowhere close in color to the chute opened and cut by Cooper and yet it's a front chute that is suppose to be missing. news reports first said 3 chutes were on the plane. I don't know....was the dummy chute really there, only a few would know for sure...

My concern is wondering why he would only throw out one of the two chutes not used why just the front chute and not the other two? Actually, would be three chutes not used.he didn't need two back chutes and really couldn't use either front chute to work properly, no D rings..what made him toss one front chute?

Lie 2,467..plenty of us did battle with Eric and Sail about Sheridan. you only see what you want and report falsehoods constantly to try and paint a hateful picture...

He's just pulling the wool over the public's eye's. they don't know much about the case and all you need to do is make something appear to add up to the crime and they suck it in like a vacuum cleaner. has zip to do with taking it personal..that's been his job since 2010. it's just another false projection..

Lol, he rips into any suspect that pops up on these boards, that's ok, right? returning fire his way starts the jealousy and hate cards. NO, there is no evidence supporting Kenny being Cooper except wild and vivid statements from friends and family throwing him under the bus. sell outs, all of them.

Agreed, typically, it would be something traumatic to trigger the recall. then the details given like it was yesterday is another red flag. the Decoded show is so outdated the evidence collection has been eliminated making there final conclusion even stronger. It's all BS. Kenny appears to have been a nice guy who voiced out his opinions about Northwest just as millions of others do surrounding work. even after the 70's his dedication to Northwest is obvious by not leaving to another airline or leaving the industry all together. the fear of leaving and being uncovered is more BS. the actual BS is Blevins and Lyle IMHO. Robert is self admitted to be in this for the money "it's all business" and has to try and keep his head above water which is really hard with a brick tied to his feet. (Kenny)

I think we need to contact the CIA. it appears some people are capable of reverse remote viewing. there recall could help solve cases in there area. it's a gift..

Don't forget the highly detailed memory they all have..a few moments in a room giving no reason to recall the encounter in perfect detail almost 50 years later. pointing out a extremely small tie clip worn 50 years ago. truly amazing..

The 3rd edition of a book written by Bruce Smith is now available. word has it people are taking a STRONG interest in the book Greetings Cooperites and Friends of those of us swirling in the Cooper Vortex, I am pleased to announce that the 3rd Edition of my book, DB Cooper and the FBI - A Case Study of America's Only Unsolved Skyjacking, is now available. Published by Moonshine Cove Press, the 3rd Edition can be purchased at Amazon and all other book retailers in both paperback and Kindle versions. I'll have copies available at CooperCon21 next week, too. The new edition is quite large at 504 pages - I call it the Torah and the Talmud of Cooper - and here's a synopsis of what's new: The 3rd Edition of DB Cooper and the FBI – A Case Study of America’s Only Unsolved Skyjacking is an updating of events since August 2016 when the FBI officially closed their investigation. When the Bureau threw in the towel, two important dynamics were unleashed: First, the FBI no longer had absolute control over their paperwork and it became available to the public. Second, citizens and private sleuths took over the Cooper case in a robust fashion, unimpeded by any of the bureaucratic turgidity that had stymied the FBI’s 45-year quest. As a result, the veil covering the inner workings of the FBI has been lifted, and the public has engineered many exciting evidentiary breakthroughs. These include discovering springtime diatoms on ransom bills uncovered at Tina Bar in 1980, and identifying rare earth minerals and other exotic metals on the tie DB Cooper left on the plane. In addition, two independent research groups have presented compelling suspects in the case, and have backed their announcements with a media blitz that has included two documentaries, several books, and a lawsuit against the FBI. Further, Cliff Ammerman, the Air Traffic Controller who actually monitored the flight when Cooper jumped, has finally been interviewed, resulting in original and critical perspectives on the flight path and potential landing zones. All of these aspects are discussed in detail in the 3rd Edition, along with many new photographs and maps, new and exclusive interviews with several passengers, and a full chapter on the fingerprints recovered from Cooper’s plane, which is a dimension of the case not discussed substantively in any other book on DB Cooper.

Fix your own book before you worry and police the others books out there..hows that for coming at ya?

Lol, this has nothing to do with me Robert. I told you what to do. you are the one complaining about the issue. deal with it and shut up.. I'll come at you in the future anytime I wish..not a damn thing you can do about it. deal with your own problems and stop projecting them on others..stop with the threats..

Robert, it's a public forum. what people do with there personal life has no jurisdiction with me. the book is or was between Sheridan and Snow. others have told you the exact samething. even if Sheridan would of asked you to do it, the book never would of been published. I spoke to snow about, he showed emails of Sheridan liking what he did and then turning. it is what it is. some of the emails are on the forum. Sheridan didn't like you either, I have emails of him saying you were in 377's mafia. of course it's not true but that's Sheridan. Contact Sheridans family and help them with a law suit so it can be turned over to them. you whine about it with zero action. I did contact Sheridan to try and get answers and all he did was speak ill of 377, you and a few others and then rambling about off topic things. Snow showed an email of Sheridan loving the book and the cover. what happened in between is not known or any of my business. I have no affiliation with the book, my name is not on it. the book WAS not published through "The DB Cooper Forum" it's my understanding Sheridan had a PDF that could be downloaded for a short period. Snow stole nothing. snow and Sheridan were friends, spoke on the phone and knew each other far more than you me or others that only spoke to him through emails. snows intension's were not evil. he wanted to get the book published as Sheridan always wanted to do. do you have Sheridans number, know his family, no. snow does. I suggest to get off your lazy gossiping ass and actually back up what you say and do something about this horrific wrong. you are the only one bringing it up. it puts it on YOU. I had nothing to do with the publishing of the book. YOU wanted to publish it, then snow did it. YOU spoke with Sheridan about it trying to get the book. I'm not going to be your personal paralegal. spend some of those thousands you claim to toss around. it would be the best cause to date according to your logic.Greg was willing to give, what, 6-8-$10,000 for a party in the woods, he should certainly toss a few grand out for this? try to ease up the phony business. you are loaded with it.

Lol, the "public" doesn't research the case. they read about it, or they would be members. nobody's "blowing off" anything. Nobody said exposure of the case was bad. the public hasn't advanced the case one inch. it has to be researched and understood in order to be solved. the public is the audience. if anyone is blowing off Cooper, it would be the public. it's not everyone's cup of tea and many believe it's a waste of time and money. researching something doesn't come with a clause demanding advertising. I have a forum where the case can be discussed. many of the members have been in documentaries in the past and into the future. several of the members have been on multiple documentaries. you have been on what, one, 10 years ago..Bruce, your buddy has steamed rolls over you, Eric has a couple shows in the past and more to come. Tom Kaye has been on countless docs. doesn't matter what you think of them, they are getting the case exposed, right? Nobody is spinning there wheels. the same can be asked to you. what do you do here. bitch and moan 99% of the time spewing age old crap over and over or you are reporting what is said on my forum. that's how you advance the case? you have no credit to be preaching half the things you say,. most of the time you DO the things you claim to be against. that's a FACT. People with books need to get exposure, not just for the name of the book but to profit. that's not why I'm here. we are in touch with key people surrounding the case. the public can't help with any of that. sounds like you need an old bus and a preachers suit to travel the country spreading the word. "Have you heard about Cooper my son" hang out at airports with flowers.

The "public eye" will not solve the case. it's been in the public eye since 1971. movies, tv shows, documentaries, articles and books have been around about Cooper for 50 years. digging into the case is how it can be solved. witnesses are passing away leaving only the past to try and unravel. most of the public, especially the younger generation believe it's a waste of time and money. 125,000,000 results are on a simple Google search of "DB Cooper" that's more than plenty to keep "Cooper in the public eye" the same can be said for thousands of unsolved crimes like Hoffa, Zodiac, Alcatraz etc. You skipped over the "babbling" because it was in reference to what you do on a daily basis. you didn't really have an answer for it. whether you like it or not Eric is actually putting Cooper in the public eye. he's been on multiple documentaries, the news will probably speak of the event. websites do articles etc. you get bypassed and resort to small events in the woods. nothing wrong with that but it's small taters, no beef to get the beef you need to get out of the woods and get speakers like the one's posted above. You take care now, ya hear...

Bragging? you asked and I answered..amazing how you work. it really is Robert.. The CooperCon event is full of known names, the right people forwarding the case. to bad Fly has issues with Eric, he would fulfill the roster IMO. it will take place whether you like it or not, sound familiar lol.. List of speakers Darren Schaefer (Moderator) >>> The Cooper Vortex Podcast Eric Ulis >>> From The Final Hunt for DB Cooper on the History Channel Bill Mitchell >>> Passenger on Flight 305 who sat directly across aisle from DB Cooper Brian Ingram >>> Found $5,800 of DB Cooper ransom on Tena Bar in 1980 Catherine Scott >>> Daughter of NWA305 Capt. Scott Cliff Ammerman >>> Air Traffic Controller handling 305 and chase jets at the time DB Cooper jumped Mary Jean Fryar >>> Retired FBI Special Agent Tom Kaye >>> Scientist who has analyzed the FBI evidence Marla Wynn Cooper >>> Niece of suspect LD Cooper Anonymous >>> DB Cooper researcher and Army Data Analyst studying William J Smith Dan Gryder >>> YouTube influencer and aviation expert Bruce Smith >>> DB Cooper author Mark Meltzer >>> Skydiver and parachute expert Vern Jones >>> DB Cooper book publisher Marty Andrade >>> DB Cooper author Brett Eichenberger >>> Film and documentary producer Nicholas Broughton >>> DB Cooper researcher Ron and Pat Forman >>> DB Cooper authors In addition to the above schedule, there will be socials starting at 6pm on: Friday, November 19th at Von Ebert’s Brew Pub in NE Portland; Saturday, November 20th at Victor23 Craft Brewery in Vancouver; Sunday, November 21st at Von Ebert’s Brew Pub in NE Portland. To think it was done by one man, no "committee" involved... Now, should this be posted everyday and pull the jealousy card, perhaps a financial report showing how much was spent out of pocket and what was bought on Amazon (with multiple pics) warnings about those who want to show up and cause trouble? I do need to inquire about the wattage the PA system will have, perhaps a pic to boot. it's important, ya know. I seen the jab taken about my spelling....at least I didn't post for a year that a house was bought in cash while showing the mortgage in the same post.. I don't care who you are, that's funny right there... Nite nite

lol, more nonsense. I've done my share. it's never a competition. you want to scold me for living away from the area, really? researching Cooper is about money, really? whether you like it or not, I provide an outlet to discuss Cooper. that doesn't happen here much with the whining you stir up. Flyjack is the main Cooper contributor here, along with a few others. you bitch and bitch about everything everyone does. you hold info on Kenny but blast Fly for doing the same lol..you divert attention away from yourself projecting nonsense about others constantly. You try to contribute promotionally but don't forward the case a millimeter. too busy whining about anything said. you push the worst suspect short of Reca (same class). No, I fail to see any reason to back anything you do, Robert. that's as transparent I can get. who do you back here, other than yourself into a corner? you live to bitch and whine causing a never ending cycle of bullshit. You treat this like it's your personal Facebook page. many have told you this. why don't you post like this on SUFON, update after update long strung posts about what you bought and the amount paid to feel important? I don't see anything of the sort. Contribute? a forum running since 2014, determined the cords by Kaye and location were not accurate. the first to receive 302's and release them publicly, ran flight simulations, worked with Fly on knocking the placard out as evidence in the case, to name a few? I didn't realize a resume was required to research an unsolved crime?

lol..never said they didn't know you..your name as event holder is on the page..no drama required. we will probably see the name they way it's presented here now.. Remember, you wouldn't have changed anything if you were right.. Thanks

You fail to understand what you have done. I read the latest post and it's telling. you have been lying about the event being related to Cooper, except here. you lied about it last year just as you did telling people you had the permit for over 75..you even said Cooper was dead and belongs in the back seat with granny surrounding events.. I don't have to man up about jack shit. I've told you many times over that I want nothing to do with you or the events you hold. they have no bearing on the case. This is about you bragging about giving it straight while crooked as a fault line. you were not asked to mention Cooper on that page. you were corrected about false advertisement. big difference to what you wrote. you have been including Cooper ONLY here and not on the SUFON Facebook page. The event comes from that group and using there name. Nobody is trying to stop anything you do other than control the lying you constantly do and get accused of often. all of this could have been so simple by "manning up" yourself and admitting the wrong.. Just correcting a wrong, dismissed.

When I see it as such on the Facebook SUFON page, then I will believe you. As mentioned before, you are not promoting the event honestly.. On my phone which I don't like to post with..I hate texting,

It's has nothing to do with me..it's not a Cooper event...when I see it posted as a UFO party how does one advertise for the event on a Cooper page... Fix it,.pretty simple.

Spin it however you wish..you are not being honest about the event..doesn't matter where I live or who I am.. For the record you are not advertising the event truthful until the public sees the same event title on the sufon Facebook page to connect with other adverts you post..

You got the idea from CooperCon. Eric has been up front with the people surrounding UFO's. I believe they contacted him, not sure but they are all on the same page. that's the proper way to do things.

It's the main UFO site..the FACEBOOK page is where you need to state it's Cooper related, especially, if you use Cooper in the event tittle.. it's considered false advertising IMO. the AB site is not really relevant vs what is mentioned on the Facebook page. I see you changed the tittle on your website but failed to change it on the actual UFO Seattle Facebook page where it should be reported accurately... I guess I will contact them with the links to here and see what they have to say about it..no big deal. yes, it will be polite, no it will not be about you other than getting them to explain why Cooper is not mentioned on there Facebook page and the tittle confusions.. You are listed as the event holder on the SUFON Facebook page. do you think tampering with the event tittle is proper business or fair to the members of that page, or members here? What happens if the majority would be Cooper fans wanting to discuss Cooper? if only two or three out of 75 show up, it tells you once again it doesn't belong here?

The SUFON Facebook page...you seem to have trouble following. that's the actual site for the Seattle UFO discussion. that's where you fail to mention Cooper. that's where it counts. nobody is trying to stop you, Robert. as mentioned before, it appears its not part of SUFON at all or you would post it as such on the SUFON Facebook page..you are using the tittle to post here. even the AB site doesn't state Cooper in the tittle. Do I have to go on there and ask myself?