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I guess if you called it post yours too. I have seen horrible first jump videos heads down and fetal all the way to pull time. Spinning all the way. Instructors did not give up and studemt got A license in about a month. I'm with the poster on this one. If his ability was less than desirable but had the motivation and the instructors told him to find something else he had horrible instructors.

Don't give up Bry. YOU and only YOU know when something is wrong.

This is a tough one. There are tandem factories who claim they will progress you to aff but really don't want to be bothered with true student instruction. Did you meet any non tandem students on this dz? I don't believe you stated if your first jump was a tandem. If it was and you met no other non tandem students it most likely was a tandem factory and they don't want to do anything else.

Bry: Im not a Dr only talking from experience. Had testicular problems when younger and had to have one removed thru inguinal area. The pain radiates up so it doesn't seem as though it is coming from where it is actually coming from. I would see a urologist not just a general surgeon and specifically ask to have the testicles checked. Whay back when with me they did testicular scans and maybe there is something more advanced now.

Who do you want to bang from DZ.com?---Statistics help needed.

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Agreed about the lady. Also believe we shouldn't hide our incidents and fatalities. When one happens bring it in the open even for the general public. It is part of the sport. And statistics can be looked at many ways. Never believed that car ride to dz was more dangerous than jump. I can get a quote that there are only 1 fatality to every 150,000 jumps as opposed to 1 in every 2,000 auto crashes. But if we look at it in feet traveled per fatality who knows what the result would be? I've only known 1 person dead from car accident within past year and about 5 from skydiving. We do not gain by keeping things hidden.

With the internet and youtube an event like this was going to make it to the general public eventually. I'm sure initially there will be lost tandem's over this. Ultimately I think it looks worse to suppress something like this and if it had stayed just within the skydiving community it wouldn't have the PR problems. Now it looks worse that it took a year to become public. It almost appears we were hiding it. Honestly in the long run being truthful and open about it is best in my opinion. People who want to jump are still going to and the people that didn't want to jump will be just more sure that their decision was correct for them.

What makes a guy BAD in bed?---Falling out of the hole.

Wow, seriously? What a fucking twat. I mean absolutely seriously, Brother. I can't help but wonder if we all have to endure this pseudo-security silliness for the rest of our lives. Did you say anything in response? If it had been me in your shoes, and if I had a quick wit, I would have responded "wow, you've got quite a potty mouth there, and right in front of those kids." I'd have thought you would have said "What? Can you say that any louder?" Touche'! I might have added "I'm fucking deaf!" at the end of that if I was so inclined. That, and maybe a supervisor would have paid a bit of attention, and then something might have changed. Nope! that's a pipe dream Silly Me! Maybe she is a skydiver who had a momentary brain freeze and thought she was in the packing area on the dz.

Wow, seriously? What a fucking twat. I mean absolutely seriously, Brother. I can't help but wonder if we all have to endure this pseudo-security silliness for the rest of our lives. Did you say anything in response? If it had been me in your shoes, and if I had a quick wit, I would have responded "wow, you've got quite a potty mouth there, and right in front of those kids." I'd have thought you would have said "What? Can you say that any louder?" Touche'! I might have added "I'm fucking deaf!" at the end of that if I was so inclined. That, and maybe a supervisor would have paid a bit of attention, and then something might have changed. Nope! that's a pipe dream Silly Me!

No she isn't. She isn't even an unusually good singer. Have to disagree. Les Miserables is my favorite show which I saw 4 times with different casts. "I Dreamed a Dream" is an extremely difficult song and only the gifted can truly sing it with the emotion it was meant to evoke. In some of the productions I actually felt sorry for the girls playing Fantine because they didn't have the voice to carry the song. Only 3 people I've heard sing it have done it justice. Patti Lupone, the deceased (much too young) Laurie Beechman and Susan Boyle.

I would say mortician. They have to deal with families at the worst possible time while they get them to spend in the tens of thousand of dollars for things they don't need. They spend the rest of their time stiffing people one way or the other.

God Quade. What you say is so true and so sad.

From the very beginning back in the 60's Streisand was offered contract with RCA. But they would have told her what to sing. That took guts way back then since she wasn't established and didn't have conventional good looks. She held out and signed with Columbia who gave her complete control over whatever she wanted to sing. At age 70 her contract expired and she just resigned contract with them. Like her or not she stook up for herself and took a chance that did not result in compromising who she was.

Maybe I'm not making my point clear. It just doesn't seem that being themselves with talent ia enough in todays world. So they or their managers create something they are not. Maybe if Amy's handlers left her alone and just let her sing the pressure would have been less and the result may not have been fatal.

Look at Susan Boyle. She was perfect exactly the way she was. To me it showed true talent and true humanity. There was mo meed for her makers to "Dolly" her up with new hairdo and costumes. Her talent speaks. Period. Nothing else was needed. To me the "superficial style" takes away from her core.

Wondering if anyone thinks singers like Mama Cass or Janis Joplin could have made it today? Are we so image oriented that we would just reject them? I think I know what the answers will be and think it's a sad commentary on what has become standard with todays values.

Non-factor or detrimental: sports, music, acting, religion, etc. Blues, Dave I initially thought what about Ronald Reagan? He was an actor. OOPs my bad! He thought he was an actor.

My lack of knowledge and tiredness contributed to me in the body scan. It was middle of night and airport empty. They just said step over here and then the doors shut. I was in there before I could even ask for patdown. They should be required to ask if you want body scan or patdown before they send you in.

I know Lisa. You are my friend and I am in a town of about 40,000 which sounds like a lot but it's in the middle of nowhere and the other closest town is about 45 miles away and much smaller. It takes about 6 months just to get the hi how you doing meeting with another Dr. here. I guess you could say well move to another place but I just feel stuck here. We actually had some phenomal Drs. but most of them last a year at most. My dad had a wonderful oncologist who was actually on a weekly visiting basis from a big city. In all honestly the vets here are more compassionate than the Drs. and you know I'm having the issues with my pet now but the guy is wonderful. BTW it is harder to get into vet med school than regular medical school. If you think about it makes sense. Animals can't tell you what they are feeling and vets dealing with different anatomies. They arent compensated as greatly so for sure most of them doing it for the love of it even though they have to demostrate more smarts than regular Dr.

OK admittedly I'm taking this thread in a different direction. We as the patient think we have complete coverage. What many people don't realize are the contracrual write offs the medical providers take from the insurance companies. We think on a particular claim they are being paid thousands when in reality it might be a couple hundred if that. I had the most phenominal Dr ever. Young and patient would listen. Guess due to the low insurance payments and high malpractice insurance he said screw it and stopped praticing completely and became hospital administrator. I can't blame him but now I'm stuck with a real dork Dr.

Not a good liar here either. If I had insurance that had a non-skydiving clause I just wouldn't jump. Though I feel bad about injured people and people who have died in the sport I choose to not give when asked for money because they didnt have insurance. The only time I did give was to the family of a woman who died in a tandem incident. We all know the risks that go with skydiving and there are people that could afford insurance but wont buy it because it means less jumping. Sometimes I think the USPA should require proof of medical insurance that covers skydiving injuries before license is issued.

My medical insurance is through my employer. I broke my leg on a landing and told the truth. Had to go to 2 hospitals and had surgery. All bills were covered at the normal rate. The only thing they did do was send me a questionaire asking for details. The last question asked if another party was responsible for my bills. I left everything blank except the last question. I said I am not suing anyone and this was an accident and no one else is responsible. Never heard anything else about it. It is also better medically to be truthful because treatment may be different for a jumper as opposed to a non jumper. Life insurance is a different matter. I prepaid my funeral years ago and you are basically applying for life insurance and naming the funeral home as beneficiary. The funeral director asked if I skydived and I said no which was true at the time since I started skydiving a year later. The policy is now paid off so I guess as long as I don't die skydiving it will be paid. But I still didn't lie at the time and would have told the truth if I was skydiving when making arrangements.