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  1. 6 points
    I agree that that is one of the functions of the electoral college, but not the only one, at least at the start of the country. The 3/5ths compromise was put forward to address concerns of the southern colonies that they would be dominated by non-slave states because they would only count votes of white males, making their population much smaller than it actually was. For non-American readers, the 3/5ths compromise was an agreement to count slaves as 3/5ths of a person. Of course slaves still could not vote, so 3/5ths of nothing is still nothing. To go along with the 3/5ths arrangement, some mechanism had to be invented to turn that 3/5ths into presidential votes. The electoral college filled that role. Each state would be allocated some number of electoral college votes in proportion to their population, which in the case of slave-holding states was all the non-slave population plus 3/5ths of the total number of adult slaves. The electoral college allowed slave states to derive political power in proportion to the number of slaves, without actually allowing the slaves themselves any power. So I would say the electoral college had two functions: to keep power in the hands of the wealthy elite, and to allow southern slave owners to profit politically as well as financially from their slaves. Today the system may not favor slave owners, but it ensures that residents of some states have a disproportionally large voice in presidential elections, and other states have their voice diminished. For example, voters in Kansas have 3 electors, or about 1 for every 180,000 people. On the other hand, Texas has 1 elector for every 763,000 people. Are people who happen to live in Kansas really worth 4 times as much as people who happen to live in Texas? Texas has about the same population as Alaska, Colorado, North and South Dakota, Idaho, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, Montana, Wyoming, and Utah combined. Texas has 38 electoral votes, and all those states combined have 63. You could make similar comparisons if you substituted California for Texas. So much for one person/one vote! The electoral college serves no useful purpose, it was conceived in order to support evil and it is deeply undemocratic. It's past time for it to be abolished.
  2. 5 points
    People have a long history of repackaging repugnant policies to make them more palatable, and even to fool the unwary into supporting those policies. Slavery was repackaged as "states rights". It's a lot easier to convince people that states should be free to enact policies they decide is in the best interests of their citizens, than it is to convince them to support slavery. So you create a couple of degrees of separation; now you're not talking about buying and selling people, you're talking about states being free from Washington bullying. Similarly, in the 1960s the California Realtor's Association found their practice of adding racial covenants to property deeds under attack from civil rights advocates (see this article for example). Realtors found that they could drive up property values by adding restrictions to deeds to make white-only developments and whole neighborhoods. It got to the point that in many communities there were literally no homes that non-whites were allowed to buy. This was supported by the courts; in one case the California Supreme Court ruled that a black family could not be blocked from buying a property, but they could not live on the property due to the covenants. When the Federal government moved to block racial covenants, the realtor's association responded by repackaging the issue as "freedom to do as you wished with your own property". Now they could talk about freedom and property rights, and leave segregation out of the conversation altogether. They pushed an amendment to the California constitution to protect the "right" to enforce racial covenants, which passed with over 60% of the vote pretty much because it was sold as a personal freedom issue not one of legally enforced segregation. Although the California amendment was later voided as in violation of Federal law, the many all-white communities established under the system remain almost entirely white to this day. The lesson was learned well by Regan as Governor, and persists strongly today in Republican Party tactics to fight efforts to combat Covid, poverty, voting rights, or anything else they decide to adopt as a wedge issue. Now we see censorship and efforts to "whitewash" (a perfect word to describe the effort) history repackaged as an effort to protect children from feeling badly about how various racial groups have been treated. Never mind that doing that robs students of any hope of being able to understand why the country has many of the problems that it has. If you can't talk about slavery or Jim Crow or the California Realtor's Association, how do you explain the vast differences in average wealth between white and black (or hispanic) families, or incarceration rates, or any of the other structural issues that fall along racial lines? All you are left with is that non-whites have less wealth, or are more likely to be incarcerated, because they are lazy, or stupid. I see evidence that the same repackaging is happening for religious issues. In the Supreme Court both Thomas and Alito have written about same sex marriage and abortion as being offensive to people with strongly held religious (IOW fundamentalist Christian) beliefs. They seem to be setting up a new constitutional right: the right to never be offended by other people "living in sin". "Freedom of religion", I fear, will soon be twisted to mean that no-one can do anything that might offend someone else's religious scruples. You don't have to pass laws that say everyone has to believe in fundamentalist Christianity, if you can pass laws that say that everyone has to behave just like fundamentalist Christians.
  3. 4 points
    Só let me get this straight — it’s perfectly OK to question the qualifications and route to power or wealth of women and minorities — just in the interests of fact. But questioning the qualifications and route to power of the people already ensconced (lighter in skin and greater testosterone) is getting into CRT and “privilege.” Don’t you fucking understand that being born into a group that’s over-represented in the power structure is an advantage? Kind of like additional height if you’re a basketball player or political candidate. It’s completely unearned. That doesn’t mean you should deny it, just realize that it’s an advantage. Wendy P.
  4. 4 points
    You'll know you found one when they get up and leave.
  5. 4 points
    Today we celebrate Martin Luther King and all he did for racial equality. But it wasn't always this way. During his life he was vilified by most Americans. He was doing too much. He was a communist. He was hurting more than he was helping. He just wanted government handouts. MLK: "When we come to Washington in this campaign we’re coming to get our check." And polls backed this up. Just before his death, he had an "unfavorable" rating of 63%. In 1964 he was the second least respected man in America, losing out only to George Wallace the famous segregationist. Half of white Americans thought he was hurting the Civil Rights movement. A third said he had brought his assassination upon himself. Almost half felt no negative emotions about his death. And yet in hindsight it became clear what he did for the cause of civil rights, and is now rightly celebrated for his work. I think about this whenever anyone attacks BLM, or the woke movement, or John Lewis, or LGBT organizations, or defends the murder of George Floyd. Is it just that they don't have the necessary perspective yet on the importance of civil rights? Do they really see some difference in all those unpopular activists? Or is it just that they have not died yet and so society has not yet moved on? Does progress have more to do with the deaths of the people opposed to civil rights? I would like to think that's not true, that people can learn and change over the course of their lifetimes. But I have seen little evidence of that.
  6. 4 points
    Yup, and significantly hotter than 120 years ago. In life there are people who can see a big picture and there are those who can only handle one little moment at a time.
  7. 3 points
    You have not been vaccinated, I am sorry, the beds and waiting room are full. Please wait in your car and we will come get you when there is room. Here is a free air freshener for your car.
  8. 3 points
    If you can't dazzle them with brilliance; baffle them with bullshit?
  9. 3 points
    Hi Tri, Re: HRC was one of the best in high school, one of the best in college, and one of the best in law school. Honors and recognition by faculty and peers at all three. From what I have read, she was also quite excellent US senator. Also, IMO she was a very good Sec of State; she worked her butt off in that job. She may be a polarizing person, but one should never discount her abilities. Jerry Baumchen
  10. 3 points
    To continue this topic — Bill Clinton had the magnetic personality, but would never have gotten to the levels he did without Hillary’s counsel and guidance. If anything, he rode her coattails.
  11. 3 points
    Can we just rename this the Blevins Facebook page...
  12. 3 points
    You're the one who spews hate. You're the one who keeps throwing around old laundry. You're the one who keeps trying to manipulate others' behavior. You're the one who throws petulant fits like you did yesterday. What goes on in the comments section of Bruce's site - I don't think that's hate. I think that's mockery. Most of these people have long since given up on trying to convince you to be rational.
  13. 3 points
    I've said this before. Here where I live people regularly complain the first nations peoples are given too many advantages for free. I have never once heard anyone say that they would prefer to change places with them though.
  14. 3 points
  15. 3 points
    Wow! Novak Djokovic exited the Australian Open after missing only 2 shots!
  16. 3 points
    Hi folks, IMO the right decision: Novak Djokovic ousted from Australia over lack of COVID-19 vaccination - oregonlive.com Jerry Baumchen
  17. 3 points
    At the time the Constitution was written there were no political parties (although they appeared soon after) and several of the "Founding Fathers" wrote against political parties in the Federalist Papers (although some of them later became founders/leaders of early parties). They hoped that those elected to public office would act as well-meaning individuals, concerned about good government and not about personal power. They hoped that ideas would be presented and debated, and legislators would then vote on positions that they believed were in the best interest of the country. I don't know if they were really so naive, or if they really believed that could become reality. At any rate I think they would be horrified to discover that one of the two biggest parties in the country has given itself over to grabbing power for itself, to the extent that they are quite willing to dump the spirit of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, just to install themselves and their pathologically narcissistic dictatorial leader into a permanent position of power. As far as the SCOTUS is concerned it's power has grown far beyond what the Founders imagined, or intended. Today most of the Justices are products of the Federalist Society, dedicated to (or at least strongly influenced by) ideas that favor putting political control in the hands of a few wealthy people. After all if they are rich it must be because they more qualified to govern than the unwashed masses! The judiciary may not write laws directly, but they can strike down anything that doesn't conform to their political leaning.
  18. 2 points
    So Florida just banned CRT, like several other states. But they didn't just ban CRT, they banned anything that can make "an individual . .feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race, color, sex, or national origin." Which means that: Teaching anyone about the Holocaust is now banned if there are German students in the class. After all, if a student is distantly related to the people who ran those concentration camps, they could feel discomfort or guilt by being reminded that their family participated in that. Now, there is an exception for "training or instruction" - it is allowed provided that "is given in an objective manner without endorsement of the concepts." However, since pretty much all teachers describe the Holocaust as "bad" (and in fact endorsing its termination) that provision does not apply. Teaching about 9/11 is now banned if there are Muslims in the class. Muslims were targeted after 9/11 as the perpetrators, and thus they will feel discomfort by being reminded that they were blamed for the attack. And again, most teachers consider what the 9/11 terrorists did to be "bad" which is not objective at all. Teaching about the Vietnam War is now banned if there are Vietnamese in the class. After all, depictions of what the Viet Cong did could reasonably be assumed to cause Vietnamese students distress. Teaching about the Civil War is now banned if there are Southerners in the class. No one wants to hear about how their families were insurrectionists - and losing insurrectionists at that. What's left that is safe to teach in history class? What's left that will not offend the special snowflakes in Florida? Perhaps the history of sugar cane in . . nope, that doesn't work. The Revolutionary War? Nope. I know! The history of Star Wars. Since that's entirely fictional, no one could reasonably be affected.
  19. 2 points
    My charity with these people expired some time ago. If they want to get sick and die to make a political statement, let them.
  20. 2 points
    Blevins is just trolling and spamming this thread with non Cooper stuff for attention. It will never end. He is incapable of reason or self awareness. His case knowledge is poor. Anybody who gets a moderate understanding of the case knows KC does not fit the evidence. Blevins lies about people to discredit them. He refuses to admit when he is proven wrong. He threatened to damage the Cooper Conference. Blevins is just toxic for the Cooper case overall. He exists in his own world that people do not want to be a part of. I just did a really big media interview and to come back here to be reminded of the toxic environment of spam, lies, personal attacks and denial of facts from Blevins makes me not want to post anything... I put him on ignore but he posted lies about me knowing I had him on ignore.. So, if Blevins actions get the thread shut down, so be it. I am done always having to correct that trolls misinformation. I have a really good (non suspect) TBAR theory that I considered posting, Tom Kaye thought it important enough that it should be a part of the Cooper case discussion. I am actually shocked that nobody ever came up with it before. It fits the flightpath, Cooper's LZ and the spring diatoms. It is complex to explain in a forum, opens up many avenues for further research and would take a lot of work to post it but I just don't care, maybe I'll save it for another format or another time. Since Blevins has made this thread into his personal social page I am just not interested in posting anything. But, I will report Blevins lies and spam every time he posts it. He has nothing to say about Cooper, at least not anything accurate. My research is almost done,, I am expecting some final documents within months.. I have so much information there is no way it can be posted here in this format anyway.. I might have over 5000 files of information. It has become overwhelming. I'll be exploring other ways, maybe videos or podcasts.. or some media that have contacted me. The hard part is distilling all the information into a presentable form.. for both Cooper newbies and experts. That is a massive project that I never wanted to do. So, go ahead Blevins, the thread is all yours tell us amateurs all about Cooper.
  21. 2 points
    Yeah I would love to come on here more since this is the only place you frequent fly and I consider you one of the top sleuths involved with the NORJAK investigation buttt it’s always cluttered with very long winded personal posts by RMB. Nothing personal here Robert but I just don’t think the content is valuable or pertinent to the investigation. Please don’t take this the wrong way… I don’t mind you being here and weighing in on NORJAK related topics of discussion but the constant camp out promotions, airing out personnel drama with vortex members and unrelated personal stories is all very distracting on what’s supposed to be a thread discussing the case. I think it would be best for the future of this thread that you keep all that stuff I just mentioned over on the ABOS website… perhaps re open the forum you once had or make a bulletin board. Anyway… just my two cents, hope you don’t take this personally RMB.
  22. 2 points
    Polarizing because she is a she, plus she refused to stay in the kitchen and bake cookies as I recall. Also she's a demoncrat I suppose. Have I missed anything of actual significance?
  23. 2 points
    Maybe he believes that with a sufficient passage of time some tall person will ask him for help getting something off the bottom shelf thereby proving the point once and for all.
  24. 2 points
    It's a felony, punishable by up to five years in prison, to make or use a fake Covid vaccination card. Why does the same not apply to making and attempting to use a fake electoral college vote?
  25. 2 points
  26. 2 points
    Don’t forget gender-blind Wendy P.
  27. 2 points
    You are a fine man and a shining example for all. Unfortunately everyone else in the world is racist and at least part of the way that we all judge character is by the appearance of a person at first impression. It saddens me that I can not be the perfect person that you are.
  28. 2 points
    Race only matters to racists. The rest of us care about character.
  29. 2 points
    And that is why you will be a safe and successful skydiver. Welcome to the family.
  30. 2 points
  31. 2 points
    This has absolutely nothing to do with DB Cooper, but....
  32. 2 points
    Piece by piece. We’re not as far apart on the topic of as you like to make out; we value the long term and short term differently I also don’t think that EVs will overtake ICs in the next three years. For one thing, even if they were to in segments of the market, there is a gigantic installed base. But the direction is towards EV; it’s the least bad that reasonably fits the lives many of us already live. 110 years ago, making the system better for IC was a much smaller proposition than moving the technology. The Green New Deal, as exactly proposed (in all the many forms, depending on the person), won’t happen. But, again, it’s the direction we should head. If nothing else, conserving resources is better than using them up so you get your “fair share.” It’s more responsible. Eventually fossil fuel will be a niche product, kind of like leaded gasoline. Not in our lifetimes, but my lifetime isn’t the only one that matters. Nor even leaving the most moola and stuff to my offspring. BTW, he agrees with me. On exactly how many ppm of CO2 will be the tipping point; I don’t want to stumble into it. Is that how we should manage our lives — spend everything and then hope something comes through? That’s kind of like using the lottery as your safety net. And I agree that levels will continue to rise; I just don’t think that’s a good thing. The whole thing about pursuing low and zero carbon policies is to reflect the actual (as we understand it now) cost; not the short term “we’ll solve that problem when we have to” cost. Because we’re suffering the costs of lack of planning — crumbling infrastructure, toxic waste and air that have to be dealt with, etc. As far as temperatures skyrocketing, I think that if you consider the number of people who depend on a fairly narrow range of temperatures, and who will be displaced by that range changing or widening (maybe they’ll want to come to Pennsylvania), maybe the definition of “skyrocketing” isn’t one that you’re qualified to make. As far as the NASA prediction of corn, do you have any basis other than wanting to see them wrong for your assertion? Or if it’s 24% reduced, will you come back and say “told ya!” Or if we’ve discovered a new strain of grass that’s even better so no one wants to plant corn any more? So we can agree on some facts and likelihoods. However, I rather doubt that any acknowledgment will come other than something to the effect of “Wendy thinks I’m right — as usual.” Which is utter and arrant bullshit, because individual facts paint a story; if a story is what you’re after, more power to you, but understand it’s just a story. Wendy P.
  33. 2 points
    Are we sure Brent isn’t Hannity?
  34. 2 points
    I believe I've posted here a number of times that it really isn't a problem to jump in a suit, and anyone with jump experience would know that. The only part that could give you a problem might be the tie, and clearly he took that off. Also, the laceless, ankle high shoes with the Vibram type soles that Flyjack has posted would also work fine. So it seems that Cooper dressed just fine for the 'occasion' of blending in as an airline passenger.
  35. 2 points
    It must mean that EV cars are doomed and will never succeed and Tesla will go bankrupt. You are so good at predicting and proving your statements!
  36. 2 points
    As per brent's argument: as december approaches => it gets colder => but CO2 has increased slightly! It means CO2 has no effect on climate! If CO2 had an effect, this winter would have been warmer than the summer! Luckily, unlike brent, people can fit it into their minds that there can be more than one factor that affects the temperature.
  37. 2 points
    You spelled it wrong. It's obfuscation.
  38. 2 points
    There is a section of VAERS that's limited in who can report and access it. Also, the site itself contains a pretty clear disclaimer: Link:https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html The people who monitor the site for real issues understand this and are doing a good job of separating the 'wheat from the chaff'. Fools who want to push an agenda misuse the data to convince other fools that the vax is dangerous.
  39. 2 points
    Apologies for the downtime without much warning. We moved to a new host with some improved resources, we're hoping this can resolve some of the intermittent downtime that users have been experiencing for a while. While we've tested a number of pages, if you notice anything out of place since the server move - just drop me a DM.
  40. 1 point
    Acknowledging privilege doesn't mean giving up things you need. It doesn't mean giving up most of what you want but don't need. But that smug sense of satisfaction that you did it all? Yeah, that has to go. As does the feeling that others could do just as well as you did, if you can. Back in the 70's I put myself through a private college for the last two years. Yes, private. And came out with minimal loans. My level of sympathy for anyone not either disabled or raising a family who said they couldn't afford college was zero. However, the advantages that I did have didn't occur to me: I'd already started, had a guarantee of being able to return and was familiar with the atmosphere and how to navigate financial aid in a much easier climate I came from a family with a strong sense of college, and knew that if things didn't work out it'd be OK and they'd support me Finding a good-paying job was easy. Through no hard work of my own, I was an intelligent, good-looking 19-year-old woman with bilingual skills in Houston. Not to mention that I was a student at the name school in town I still think that too many people are unwilling to return to college-level living standards for things they care about, but then what's considered standard now is so much more than I had when I was a kid it's not even funny. And we were relatively well off (especially when we were overseas). Wendy P.
  41. 1 point
  42. 1 point
    Got the replacement. The fabric is smooth and non-sticky on BOTH sides. What a concept!
  43. 1 point
    Tô continue: why do people think that they are the best judges of someone else’s experience? Are African-Americans really making it up when they say that they are more likely to be stopped for similar infractions than white people (backed up by data)? Are they making it up when they say that they are regularly followed in stores to make sure they’re not shoplifting? Are women making it up when they say that they don’t get asked to the titty bar and golf meetings? That in some jobs, the best way ahead is through the manager’s closed door? Its easy to find that fault to eliminate someone; it’s also easy to find that good aspect. And it’s human that the discerned faults and shining attributes correlate with people we’re comfortable with. Which means it’s responsible to question ourselves Wendy P.
  44. 1 point
    Robert, you occasionally exhort people to stand up for what is right. I will do that now. You, sir, are an asshole and a hypocrite. This is the act of a petulant child. Bruce has been a member of that community far longer than you have. Maybe someone should go back a few pages on this forum and find your post where you mock Bruce for his belief in UFO's and abductions. Maybe we should send that to SUFON. Or should we send it directly to Susan?
  45. 1 point
    Disagree - he's the most effective troll on the forum.
  46. 1 point
    Yes, my bad - it was five times larger than I remembered.
  47. 1 point
    And Harris too. Make room for President Pelosi.
  48. 1 point
    Yeah the current trolls just don't have the same class. Edit: their general literacy is much improved however....
  49. 1 point
    It's not that they couldn't recognize it. It's that they LIKED it. They like the way he 'stood up for himself' They liked the way he treated women and minorities. And the disabled. He did and said all the things they wanted to do. And got away with them.
  50. 1 point
    Without additional information, this is just another case of "they hate the Icon and look for errors." Even if it's valid, why do Icons only seem to have these issues in France? Additional information would include things like when and how it was packed, what's inside, etc. Wendy P.
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