kleggo 138 #1 March 20, 2011 was trolling the PF site this morning and saw that the V3 order form was down and was replaced by the message shown in the subject line. I guess i'll call Cathy @ Morpheus this week to see what's up. I should have just asked DSE yesterday as he organized some fun dives @ Elsinore yesterday, but i didn't know about the V4 until this morning. be safe Craig Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 73 #2 March 20, 2011 Coming soon, is a date not yet communicated. But give DSE a shout via PM or call and he may be able to accidently tell you more..even though he cant And wont.. But yea... Man..so many cool events happening in April..wonder if Robi may premiere something here or there at one of those US events he is attending... JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gzimmermann 0 #3 March 20, 2011 You guys at PF are worse than Apple, let people stand in line :-) However: If, and only IF DSE knows something, a grande standard Star..... coffee on the stairs of his trailer might help early in the morning. Great job PF, very much looking forward to seeing you in Z-hills to grow into the new Ghost3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kleggo 138 #4 March 20, 2011 Quote Coming soon, is a date not yet communicated. But give DSE a shout via PM or call and he may be able to accidently tell you more..even though he cant And wont.. But yea... . loose lips sink ships glub glub glub Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeemax 0 #5 March 21, 2011 I know all there is to know. Let the bribing begin!Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tr027 0 #6 March 25, 2011 What about very limited/specific questions, such as: Will the leg pouch come standard or as an option ? Will there be rib stiffeners ?"The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it. " -John Galt from Atlas Shrugged, 1957 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #7 March 25, 2011 Will it cost less than $2000 USD? Will it be available before Christmas? Will the delivery times be less than six months? You all think I'm kidding? Not. Also not giving PF a hard time, just wanna know.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HWalter 0 #8 March 25, 2011 Not only coming, it is here! http://www.baserigs.com/docs/products/phoenix-fly/v1.html Is Kathy faster than the Europeans or I did I miss something? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #9 March 25, 2011 QuoteNot only coming, it is here! http://www.baserigs.com/docs/products/phoenix-fly/v1.html Is Kathy faster than the Europeans or I did I miss something?yeah apparently faster to change the 3 into 4.. Looks like a V3 to me, but I could be wrong http://www.phoenix-fly.com/products/wingsuits/phoenix_fly_vampire_v3scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HWalter 0 #10 March 25, 2011 Quoteyeah apparently faster to change the 3 into 4.. Looks like a V3 to me, but I could be wrong You are right pictures are still V3. There are a few other vintage pictures on the website, but I always got the current goods from Kathy. At least price and orderform are already for the V4. I expect an update on the deliverytime though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #11 March 25, 2011 i put one on the other day.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freeflaw 0 #12 April 15, 2011 Same guy, different suit. 18kmh vertical...and not out of a dive V3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q3vL7vlPss V4: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1970794388051 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mchamp 1 #13 April 15, 2011 Quote Same guy, different suit. 18kmh vertical...and not out of a dive V3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q3vL7vlPss V4: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1970794388051 Made it clicky for ya Also love the 3.5 - 3.7 average For info regarding lift ticket prices all around the world check out http://www.jumpticketprices.com/dropzones.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deniq 0 #14 April 15, 2011 QuoteSame guy, different suit. 18kmh vertical...and not out of a dive 18 kmh as peak for 2-3 seconds or as continuous flight over longer time? Or 18 mph? QuoteV4: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1970794388051 It is possible to post this video on open video service (e.g. vimeo/youtube)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #15 April 15, 2011 Quote Quote Same guy, different suit. 18kmh vertical...and not out of a dive V3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q3vL7vlPss V4: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1970794388051 Made it clicky for ya Also love the 3.5 - 3.7 average Bullshit. Check the altitude loss and reported horizontal distance. That GPS overlay is bogus. From exit to opening glide 2.4. From 15sec to opening glide 3.0+. This is still great, but not the 3.5-3.7 fairy tale. You know there are 3 kind of people out there: -who can count -who can't Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
odeseni 0 #16 April 15, 2011 Quote That GPS overlay is bogus. What makes you say that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nickfrey 0 #17 April 15, 2011 Stats comparison v=vertical fall h=ground covered. second flight ever on v4 versus 100's likely on v3, Overall performance very similar but V4 slightly slower in fall rate and forward speed every step of the way. V4 flight ended at 1:05. ..............V3...........V4 Exit.......2385.......2853 0:15......2062.......2563 v.............323........290 h.............495........329 Glide.....1.532......1.134 0:30........1798........2393 v..............587..........460 h............1205........964 Glide.......2.053.......2.10 1:00..........1406.......1966 v.................979.........887 h...............2427.......2150 glide..........2.479......2.423 1:05...........1347.......1906 v................1038.........947 h................2585.......2331 glide...........2.490.......2.461 1:26..........1041 v...............1344 h...............3173 glide..........2.360 0:15 to 1:00 V3....................V4 v...........656.....597 h.........1932....1821 glide....2.946...3.050 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #18 April 15, 2011 QuoteQuote That GPS overlay is bogus. What makes you say that? Some fairy tale glide numbers. I got similar number than the previous post has. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #19 April 15, 2011 remember it is GPS data, and therefore the weather conditions (wind etc) are not compensated....scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bor 0 #20 April 15, 2011 really relevant part of this jump is between 40 and 50s. Constant speed with constant glide between 3.5/3.7. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
odeseni 0 #21 April 15, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote That GPS overlay is bogus. What makes you say that? Some fairy tale glide numbers. I got similar number than the previous post has. which is the data from the GPS overlay. Why is that data bogus? Like Bor pointed out, the 3.5- 3.7 is sustained GR inbetween 40 & 50s without speed loss. Is that what you found to be bogus? If so, please can you elaborate why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mchamp 1 #22 April 15, 2011 Quotereally relevant part of this jump is between 40 and 50s. Constant speed with constant glide between 3.5/3.7. +1 That is what I meantFor info regarding lift ticket prices all around the world check out http://www.jumpticketprices.com/dropzones.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LetsGoOutside 0 #23 April 15, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Same guy, different suit. 18kmh vertical...and not out of a dive V3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q3vL7vlPss V4: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1970794388051 Made it clicky for ya Also love the 3.5 - 3.7 average Bullshit. Check the altitude loss and reported horizontal distance. That GPS overlay is bogus. From exit to opening glide 2.4. From 15sec to opening glide 3.0+. This is still great, but not the 3.5-3.7 fairy tale. You know there are 3 kind of people out there: -who can count -who can't That's for the *entire* jump, which includes almost no glide towards the beginning. In the last half, when he's just flying straight, he maintains 145 - 150kmh forward and ~40kmh decent rate. 145 / 40 = 3.625. Sustained. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helmut 0 #24 April 18, 2011 Alot of work just too lie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIRDDOCTOR 0 #25 April 18, 2011 At Flock-In-Dock I did a high altitude jump on the V4 (22,500ft). This was my forth jump on the V4. Neptune stats : 4min 52 sec with average vertical speed of 43mph. The suit needs minimal effort to fly and did not really exhaust me much. I did have a fly sight on. I'll be interested to see the stats and let you know. Otherwise, I'll give you all my review of the suit. I did 10 jumps on the V4 at F&D. The suit is similar and different than the V3. In terms of similarities the suit is just as agile as the V3, easy to fly, and very stable. The differences are significant in the positive direction. The suit pressurizes and flys faster, the lift over the V3 is a lot greater, and it is slightly faster. These comparisons were made by 6 of my V4 flights made with others that had V3's. After exit it had significant more lift and slightly more forward speed. By the time the V3 deployed I was consistently 1000 to 1500 feet above the V3. The bonus of this was I could convert this altitude to more forward horizontal speed by diving the V4 and the difference in distance from the V3 was great at the end of the jump. Overall the V4 is a BIG step forward from the V3.Base# 1638 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
