Martini 0 #1 January 31, 2009 Has anyone had PC problems that they believe were caused by a hackey handle? I'm planning on switching to a tube or an internal. Wingsuit BASE PCs don't use hackeys because they are prone to bridle wraps and can cause other PC mals. I don't think the smaller skydiving PC is less susceptible to those issues.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #2 January 31, 2009 I believe my monkeyfist caused me a few hesitations, Sandy Reid at Rigging Innovations covered a whiffleball in leather for me, making a very light hackey that feels solid and doesn't have holes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnskydiver688 0 #3 January 31, 2009 I might have to convince Sandy to get me one of those. My current hackey is the heavy leather type and the two pieces of tape are a little too long causing the hackey to dangle from the PC too much.Sky Canyon Wingsuiters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #4 January 31, 2009 QuoteHas anyone had PC problems that they believe were caused by a hackey handle? Yes, there are a couple of threads on here where people had issues with their hacky weight, which ended up in a bridle knot. I know there are some pictures and even a video if I remember correctly."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #5 January 31, 2009 Ive heard (and experienced) more than one person having minor issues pulling a freefly pud (which has a little tab that 'locks' it in place) after a long flight where arm-fattigue had set in. Its great to keep a PC in place when backflying or in messy exits, with people slipping and sliding over eachother..but depending on how tight it is, make sure you have the arm-strength left to pull JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maretus 0 #6 January 31, 2009 QuoteHas anyone had PC problems that they believe were caused by a hackey handle? I'm planning on switching to a tube or an internal. Wingsuit BASE PCs don't use hackeys because they are prone to bridle wraps and can cause other PC mals. In BASE enviroment people have been generally paying way more attention to PC's (for obvious reasons) and the outcome is that heavy hackey handles are a big no no. Also if you go for tube type handle you want to check how the tube is attached to the PC. On BASE PC's the tube is always attached so that there is a piece of webbing going through the tube which is then bartacked to the load tapes on the PC (http://www.basearco.com/images/img_2.jpg). On many skydivng PC's the tube is attached so that there is a hole in the center of the tube and the PC is attached through that hole creating a single attachment point and therefore creating a possible snag point (for example bridle wrapping around the tube).http://www.ufufreefly.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsane 0 #7 January 31, 2009 Moonglo had a PC malfunction when her hackey handle went through one of the holes in the bottom of the PC. Of the four holes, it was the only one large enough for the hackey to enter. So I switched to a PVC handle with a piece of webbing end to end to prevent any snags. Then I rolled up a piece of foam, sprayed it with hair spray to be sticky and jammed it inside the handle. I don't like it when my fingers got inside the handle at pull time. Scott Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #8 January 31, 2009 My bridle wrap was around the PC, choked it down to about fist size. Ugly PC in tow mal that I would prefer not to see again.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winznut 0 #10 January 31, 2009 Had the same. Now I can say; It's no fun at all to search a forest for 10h on a hot summer day and look out for a bagged canopy and a free bag... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill_K 0 #11 February 1, 2009 Quote Ive heard (and experienced) more than one person having minor issues pulling a freefly pud (which has a little tab that 'locks' it in place) after a long flight where arm-fattigue had set in. Its great to keep a PC in place when backflying or in messy exits, with people slipping and sliding over eachother..but depending on how tight it is, make sure you have the arm-strength left to pull I have a hacky and a free fly tab. When I'm doing WS jumps I pack the pilot chute different and put the tab on the bottom of the container still in the pouch but not engaged like it is when I'm free flying. Now it's much easier to pull even after a long flight. Kind of hard to explain, but I could take a picture if somebody is interested. I learned it from my WS-I. Thanks again Scott. =) BK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #12 February 1, 2009 Quote Moonglo had a PC malfunction when her hackey handle went through one of the holes in the bottom of the PC. Of the four holes, it was the only one large enough for the hackey to enter. So I switched to a PVC handle with a piece of webbing end to end to prevent any snags. Then I rolled up a piece of foam, sprayed it with hair spray to be sticky and jammed it inside the handle. I don't like it when my fingers got inside the handle at pull time. Scott I had the same malfuntion. Not fun1Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BenediktDE 2 #13 February 1, 2009 Quote Had the same. Now I can say; It's no fun at all to search a forest for 10h on a hot summer day and look out for a bagged canopy and a free bag... I can confirm! For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BenediktDE 2 #14 February 1, 2009 Quote Now it's much easier to pull even after a long flight. Kind of hard to explain, but I could take a picture if somebody is interested. Sounds very interesting. I would be glad to see it.For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
