Birdman Suit from King Air Hop & Pop; Bird Man Instructor

[SkymonkeyONE 3]

I generally get a full minute of freefall on 5000 foot "hop and pops" here at Z-hills. Nothing wrong with that at all. That's out of a big-doored Otter though. King Airs do have small doors though, and yes I have jumped out of them with wingsuits (at Monroe when that was the only choice besides a Cessna 182). Exit completely closed/balled up and stay that way until you see the entire plane in front/above you, then open your wings. Don't, for any reason, open your wings until you see the whole plane above/in front of you. PAC's aren't that bad either. We exit sitting three abreast in the door and just pop out, pivoting off our right palm. Later exiters pile out sideways and completely closed up till they are clear of the tail. There is at least one guy who posts here, Bobby Gill, who popped up and out and destroyed the tail of his suit when he hit the tail of a Cresco/PAC in Australia.

Chuck
BMCI-4

[KrisFlyZ 0]

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This is not the canopy for low timer answer forum. My replies are real answers for the "why would". If you won't thats fine but a bunch of us did with no worries.

I know a couple of guys that prefer hop & pops for their V2 flights. There is no issue running out of stamina and they get a clear indication of ground covered.

If I can choose the exit point(straight line flight) and not have any canopies in the air(so that I can concentrate on my flight ). Hop-n-Pops from 6.5-7k will be the only solo jumps I do.

Kris.

[VectorBoy 0]

But that probably wasnt a 4K load..?


..lower exit/shorter freefal, higher exitspeed, different exit/plane all at once is asking for trouble..

[VectorBoy 0]

If I can choose the exit point(straight line flight) and not have any canopies in the air(so that I can concentrate on my flight ). Hop-n-Pops from 6.5-7k will be the only solo jumps I do.

Kris.

[bodypilot1 0]

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lodi wingsuiters fill it.

Thankyouverymuch....


Be safe
Ed

www.WestCoastWingsuits.com
www.PrecisionSkydiving.com

[fortress913 0]

Thanks for the responses--they are very helpful. I was wondering if there is set rule from the USPA for the minimum pull time for a birdman suit?

[bodypilot1 0]

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Thanks for the responses--they are very helpful. I was wondering if there is set rule from the USPA for the minimum pull time for a birdman suit?

If your jumping at a USPA drop zone, look under USPA.org. If not, above ground is most preferred.


Be safe
Ed

www.WestCoastWingsuits.com
www.PrecisionSkydiving.com

[VectorBoy 0]

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Thanks for the responses--they are very helpful. I was wondering if there is set rule from the USPA for the minimum pull time for a birdman suit?

The USPA minimum pull is based on your licence a,b-d with a hardy recommendation to add some extra for wingsuit post deployment stowage.

[ernokaikkonen 0]

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Just tell me, what is the point jumping a hop and pop in your most expensive jump suite that even restrict your movement and you have to zip up in 10-20 seconds?

What's the point of taking the suit off my rig just to do a hop'n'pop? Or, rather, a hop'n'fly for 30 seconds or so 'n'pop.