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QuoteAll I can say to those people attempting a landing STUNT is "I hope I don't have to tell your friends 'I told you so' ". I have a lot more wingsuit experience than Jeb Corlis (as do more than a few people in this forum) and I am simply not interested in any media hype concerning "landing a wingsuit." I sure as hell don't need to see another wingsuit fuckup like Royal Gorge on the news. You huggers out there can take that anyway you like it.
Chuck
Ok, so let's say that your wrong. And you don't have to tell anyones friends "I told you so." What if, in turn, Jeb gets to tell you "I told you so." What if someone with "alot less wingsuit experience" does something that you can't or won't try to do? Will he get any credit then???
Damn, I ask a simple question, to which I still haven't gotten an answer for- and in turn I get a thread that is more suited for Speakers Corner.
I understand that some people don't care- but there are those of us out there that are interested, that do want to see it happen.
So I guess all you naysayers out there can take that anyway you like it.
Mike
The sole intention, is learning to fly.Condition grounded, but determined to try.Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies.Tongue tied and twisted, just an Earth bound misfit.
QuoteYou huggers out there can take that anyway you like it.
Chuck
Huggers?..... I hope you don't mean that in a bad way?
jeb 0
Hello Mike,
this project has become bigger then most people realize. We found technology that not only makes this possible but makes it reasonable for any competent wing-suit pilot. This project is a huge undertaking. We were given a budget of close to one million dollars to start out with and we believed that would be enough to construct the different forms of technology that would be needed to make this safe. We went to the people who would be manufacturing what we needed and when we got the first bids back i almost passed out. The budget exploded from just under one million to over 6 million Dollars.
When I go the bid back for the key piece of technology the guy said i have very bad news for you Jeb. I said what is it. They said it will cost close to 3 million $ to build what you need (and remember that is only for one piece of the 4 pieces of technology needed to pull this off), but that's not the problem. I said if that's not the problem then i don't want to know what the problem is. He said it will take us one year to construct it after we have the money.
So right now we are working on two things. We are working on bringing the costs down for the overall project and we are working on finding additional funding. We will do both, it's just going to take time.
I find it funny how everybody thinks this is so impossible. Try to think outside the box. This can be done and I am sorry to say the wing-suit is actually a small part of the project. After we get additional funding this will be something pretty much any competent wing-suit pilot will be able to do and I believe it could possibly be done without a wing-suit by one of the Norwegian super trackers. The wing-suit will just give you a much larger margin for error.
There is a quote from Einstein that I love, " great spirits often encounter heavy opposition from mediocre minds."
The quote is not intended for you Mike :) Just for the people who talk about things they know very little about...
Jeb Corliss
this project has become bigger then most people realize. We found technology that not only makes this possible but makes it reasonable for any competent wing-suit pilot. This project is a huge undertaking. We were given a budget of close to one million dollars to start out with and we believed that would be enough to construct the different forms of technology that would be needed to make this safe. We went to the people who would be manufacturing what we needed and when we got the first bids back i almost passed out. The budget exploded from just under one million to over 6 million Dollars.
When I go the bid back for the key piece of technology the guy said i have very bad news for you Jeb. I said what is it. They said it will cost close to 3 million $ to build what you need (and remember that is only for one piece of the 4 pieces of technology needed to pull this off), but that's not the problem. I said if that's not the problem then i don't want to know what the problem is. He said it will take us one year to construct it after we have the money.
So right now we are working on two things. We are working on bringing the costs down for the overall project and we are working on finding additional funding. We will do both, it's just going to take time.
I find it funny how everybody thinks this is so impossible. Try to think outside the box. This can be done and I am sorry to say the wing-suit is actually a small part of the project. After we get additional funding this will be something pretty much any competent wing-suit pilot will be able to do and I believe it could possibly be done without a wing-suit by one of the Norwegian super trackers. The wing-suit will just give you a much larger margin for error.
There is a quote from Einstein that I love, " great spirits often encounter heavy opposition from mediocre minds."
The quote is not intended for you Mike :) Just for the people who talk about things they know very little about...
Jeb Corliss
Jeb
Thanks for the info.
I had a feeling that a "wingsuit" had little to do with the survivability of an attempt.
When you "really" attemp this, surely you be wearing no parachute at all, as that would be still thinking "Inside the Box" .
Be safe....ummm...nevermind.
Ed
Thanks for the info.
I had a feeling that a "wingsuit" had little to do with the survivability of an attempt.
When you "really" attemp this, surely you be wearing no parachute at all, as that would be still thinking "Inside the Box" .
Be safe....ummm...nevermind.
Ed
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QuoteWe found technology that not only makes this possible but makes it reasonable for any competent wing-suit pilot. The budget exploded from just under one million to over 6 million Dollars.
Jeb Corliss
Sorry but call me old school but if this is costing $6M its a little out of the average wingsuit pilots league ;)
For that much money I hope you can take off too and hover and take a decent payload to altitude;)
Good luck with the stunt
Dont just talk about it, Do it!
TomAiello 25
QuoteSorry but call me old school but if this is costing $6M its a little out of the average wingsuit pilots league ;)
If the apparatus were re-usable, and set up somewhere convenient like Eloy or Perris, are you saying you wouldn't pay a hundred bucks (or whatever) for a "landing ticket" and give it a go?
Turbine aircraft, wind tunnels, and lots of other toys cost way more, in their entirety, than I can afford individually. That doesn't mean they're way out of my league. It just means that I buy small increments (jump tickets, tunnel time, whatever).
edit to add: I have no inside knowledge of Jeb's attempt, so this is all just hypothetical to me. I'm not trying to imply anything about Jeb's apparatus, financing strategies, or re-usability.
Landing apparatus for wing suits: 6 mil
Wing suit: ~1000
Rig: 0
Landing a wing suit without a parachute: fucking priceless
Wing suit: ~1000
Rig: 0
Landing a wing suit without a parachute: fucking priceless
Memento Audere Semper
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leroydb 0
QuoteLanding apparatus for wing suits: 6 mil
Wing suit: ~1000
Rig: 0
Landing a wing suit without a parachute: fucking priceless
Landing without a parachute might piss off the FAA... they were pissed just about landing a mr bill.
added: smile
Leroy
..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...
..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...
The111 0
QuoteIf the apparatus were re-usable, and set up somewhere convenient like Eloy or Perris, are you saying you wouldn't pay a hundred bucks (or whatever) for a "landing ticket" and give it a go?
Besides the point raised by Leroy about FAA... can you imagine any DZO (much more "cool" than FAA in general) who would even let a jumper attempt this at their DZ on a regular basis? Some DZ's have a hard time with wingsuits already...
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TomAiello 25
Why put it at a DZ? Or in the U.S.?
I can think of at least one place where it would be totally legal, and you'd have enough time to enjoy the flight.
Heck, if your budget for building it is climbing to 6 million anyway, why not throw in another couple and build a 2000 ft tower with an elevator, to launch from? Call it an even 10 million to set the whole thing up? Then you could do repeated landings on one side of the tower, and, for those interested in such things, do regular parachute jumps on the other side.
I can think of at least one place where it would be totally legal, and you'd have enough time to enjoy the flight.
Heck, if your budget for building it is climbing to 6 million anyway, why not throw in another couple and build a 2000 ft tower with an elevator, to launch from? Call it an even 10 million to set the whole thing up? Then you could do repeated landings on one side of the tower, and, for those interested in such things, do regular parachute jumps on the other side.
leroydb 0
heck yea, its only 10 mill.. lets toss somemore and make 2 towers, one on each coast....
Leroy
..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...
..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...
QuoteHeck, if your budget for building it is climbing to 6 million anyway, why not throw in another couple and build a 2000 ft tower with an elevator, to launch from? Call it an even 10 million to set the whole thing up? Then you could do repeated landings on one side of the tower, and, for those interested in such things, do regular parachute jumps on the other side.
NOICE!
2000' tower with elevator...On one side the WS landing device. On the other side lots or trees to practice tree landing or tree slalom. On the third side a swooping pond for those who will be tarding or Mcing HP canopies. And finally on the fourth side a nice swimming pool for the round boys
The name will be BASEland Park.
Memento Audere Semper
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QuoteWhy put it at a DZ? Or in the U.S.?
Bingo!
F the DZO's and all the rules in the US.
Be safe.
Ed
www.WestCoastWingsuits.com
www.PrecisionSkydiving.com
www.PrecisionSkydiving.com
Chuck
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