crotalus01 0 #1 July 6, 2011 Please dont flame me for this question but - what CRW formations can be done relatively safely with 9 cell microlined canopies? CRW is rarely done at my dropzone so I jump at any chance to learn it. Unfortunately that means using what is available, which are not CRW canopies (there are only about 3 other jumpers willing to do any CRW with me). Travel is out of the question as I am doing good to get 4 jumps a month right now due to financial considerations. One friend of mine is in the process of setting up a couple of CRW canopies (OLD canopies, a Fury 220 and an Interceptor 200 I believe) but has hit a snag as he needs to find a spider/PC setup for the Interceptor. SO - are there any formations we can do "safely" other than stacks with our 9 cell canopies? I know off center docks are out, but what about trying some side by sides? The canopies we are using are a Safire, a Sabre1, a Sabre2 and a Nitron all loaded about 1.3. As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zymurdoo 0 #3 July 6, 2011 Quote I know off center docks are out, Especially like this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncxSnRpjWpA Edited to add, TURN YOUR SPEAKERS DOWN IF LOUD PUNK AND PROFANITY OFFENDS YOU OR THOSE NEARBY!Blue Skies, Soft Docks and Happy Landings! CWR #23 (It's called CRW, add an e if you like, but I ain't calling it CFS. FU FAI!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotalus01 0 #4 July 6, 2011 Guess you are just living up to your DZ.com name instead of being helpful . I WISH I had video as a Safire 189 and a Nitron 135 fly remarkably well together in a stack (I docked on the Nitron if that matters). I am well aware that I am not using the best (or safest) tool for the task. I wish I had unlimited $$$ or some sugardaddy would hook me up, but thats just unrealistic. Anyone ELSE have anything constructive to offer? As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sebcat 0 #5 July 6, 2011 Get the right tools for the job. Every formation you can build will build better with the proper canopies, and the risk of entanglements will be lower. Line burns from dacron still hurts, but at least it doesn't slice you like microlines does. I think many people find themselves in your situation, I know I did. Drop zones with airspace restrictions, no gear, no one to learn from or jump with. But getting the right gear and finding the right people is worth it. There's three of us here now, and jumping has never been better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotalus01 0 #6 July 6, 2011 thanks. As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faulknerwn 38 #7 July 6, 2011 Other than stacks or downplanes, not much more can be done with those canopies.. I'm surprised you can't come up with any Triathlons or Spectres. Those work for both freefall and CRW.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
countzero 7 #8 July 6, 2011 doing runbacks or rebuilds can add some fun to your stacks. maybe you could see if you can find a CRW dawg or 2 that could come to your DZ for a camp.diamonds are a dawgs best friend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rpersi 0 #9 July 6, 2011 What kind of CRW experience levels do these buddies have? Not a whole lot if I was to guess. It sounds like a CRW camp or some training would be beneficial. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotalus01 0 #10 July 6, 2011 One has a lot of experience (a lot being relative, maybe a few hundred CRW jumps), the rest of us (all 3 LOL) are learning. There are Tris and Spectres around my DZ but none I know of that I would not be loading at 1.5 or higher... As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #11 July 9, 2011 QuoteOther than stacks or downplanes, not much more can be done with those canopies.. I'm surprised you can't come up with any Triathlons or Spectres. Those work for both freefall and CRW.. What she said. I have a couple hundred crw jumps on my Triathlons, and stacks or planes are the only formations I'll do with mine. I even had one of my Triathlons lined with non-cascaded red dacron center lines for a while. I won't do diamonds with anything but a Lightning, but that's just me."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotalus01 0 #12 July 9, 2011 Well dammit Billy, if you would ever come back to WTS and bring a couple Lightnings with you you could teach me something! Seriously, I am gonna try and get down to Culman later this year if I can come up with the money and if you would be willing to do some CRW jumps with me. You probably dont remember me but we met when I was just off AFF at one of the Halloween boogies at WTS. As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #13 July 10, 2011 Quote Well dammit Billy, if you would ever come back to WTS and bring a couple Lightnings with you you could teach me something! Seriously, I am gonna try and get down to Culman later this year if I can come up with the money and if you would be willing to do some CRW jumps with me. You probably dont remember me but we met when I was just off AFF at one of the Halloween boogies at WTS. I barely remember you. It has been too long! I need to hear Mike Mullins ask me "are you still fucking deaf?" I sold my Lightning several years back, but I'm sure I could scrounge up a couple if I needed to borrow them. I'll need to get my reserves repacked as well. We can try for a weekend in the fall."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotalus01 0 #14 July 11, 2011 Thanks Billy! As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #16 July 12, 2011 What's your exit weight? I jumped a Lightning 143 that was right around a 1.3 W/L. The same W/L for a L-160 would be about 210 lbs, and for a L-176, about 230 lbs."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotalus01 0 #17 July 14, 2011 Exit weight is between 225 and 240 depending on how hot it is (I work outside all day so my weight fluctuates a bit). As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwslut 0 #18 August 5, 2011 BSBD brother. I highly recommend saving up for and attending a Mike Lewis or Jim Rasmussen CRW camp. Or jump with Wendy. This investment will not only quickly improve your skills exponentially, but will help you to survive your transition to the dark side. Welcome to the CReW!What could possibly go wrong? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScoobieDoo 0 #19 August 5, 2011 Crw camp by RAZZ in eastern MI(Midwest Drop zone)in mid Aug(see posting in this forum) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites