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[ianmdrennan 2]

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Boogieman suits

huh?? From Matter?

Edit: PS we'll be at Thomaston this Sunday. Planning on doing some 4 way stuff - Sat is the swoop comp @ The Farm. Coming to either?

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[piisfish 137]

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man those Boogieman suits look bad ass.. Did anyone else look at their stuff.

They are nice but more the design is complicated and more the price increases.

The Sonic Flywear suits are great and do not NEED spandex everywhere to be comfortable. The Performer (I think) version is the one with the spandex back for extra comfort. I heard that the Babylon Team changed to Sonic, and Loic was trying new shapes and fabrics for a fast transition suit.

SONIC is the way to go

scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

[cheneyneel 0]

No, the boogieman suits are a whole different company given by somone from an earlier post.and they all are expensive no matter what company you choose..

Next weekend is when I am forced to move because I have been having problems getting a truck to move my shit and I have to actaully walk for graduation to make family happy.. but next weekend is when I am fully done with this sorry college town..

Can I say I hate college.. all those people who loved their college days, I wish I could have that..because mine sucksbig royalmethane dingleberries.....I'll see you soon though....

[cheneyneel 0]

hey Piisfish... Isnt there a French Forum like this?? I need some more French Forums on skydiving or general aviation (also French Canadian) for a project I am working on.. Can you help me with a web address??..

[piisfish 137]

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hey Piisfish... Isnt there a French Forum like this?? I need some more French Forums on skydiving or general aviation (also French Canadian) for a project I am working on.. Can you help me with a web address??..

the french forum here, or www.wuza.com are the main ones

scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

[andygregory 0]

So, does anyone know of a more affordable way of procuring a suit of similar fit, without having to deal with someone who accuses me of looking like a clown?
Try Bistol city council waste disposal unit
uniform dept ,they have day glo stripes on the arms
you will be a hit with all the slappers in your area..

[skydivadee 0]

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So, does anyone know of a more affordable way of procuring a suit of similar fit, without having to deal with someone who accuses me of looking like a clown?
Try Bistol city council waste disposal unit
uniform dept ,they have day glo stripes on the arms
you will be a hit with all the slappers in your area..

Nah mate your giving the wrong advice !! Since the newbies cant be bothered to pay for a quality suit and look like a pro, and would rather look like an extra for some russian juggling midget act, they should get the Hackney Borough Council road workers overalls, they are the biz !! Funky luminous orange with yellow arms and legs ... just put on a few patchs (avaliable free from most pro shops ) and 'volia' you got yourself a complet " fly like a twat suit "

[fedykin 0]

Matter and europe for that matter can be a funny one and a couple of issues ive noticed get raised and dont

and hey who looks like a clown, i think cedric more than likely


1- its really fashionable to wear tight suits in europe for one reason or another, in some tracking it can help.... this is irrespective of how much the person weighs, alot of schools are suggesting putting really snug suits on people that are a bit heavier and doesnt really make any sense ie...Babylon

2- matter itself is very variable, ive had extreemly bad experiences with cedric dumont and so have alot of friends and i wouldnt choose to ever do any business with him every again

3- theres a real push for TECHNICAL suits and fabrics which for the most part are a load of sh~t. proconcept tries to make out that drag is soooo specifically placed that it aids in flying precisely etc... i think this is possibly the case but amount to less than 1% of the overall flying profile

they're creating a market for themselves and convincing people that they need these products by some interesting marketing

and lets not also forget they're bloody expensive and very rarely deliver on time and the customer service is very poor.

if you wana get a euro boy gimp suit get a boogy man one, at least they look better if your into all of that

if its pertinent i fly michigan after flying proconcept for too long

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[skydivadee 0]

hey fedykin

you look like a gimp and a clown !! , and Im sure you'll be the mess gimp in your pink shirt and expensive brogues. Just get a tight fitting pair so they dont fall during the pillow fights !!

Ever thought about getting yourself some freebie overalls and funking them out with patches and joining the elite band of geeks?

[Andrewnewell 0]

I suppose it different strokes for different folks?

Dude I understand why you didnt like the Matter suit you had. It wasnt realy the fault of the manufacture i think it was more to do with outside influences that affected the style choice you made at the time? I could be wrong.

The point is we all live and learn, I made a similar bad choice at the time. Remember the red and white thing I brought?! Way to tight!

Ive seen your new suit and it is a suit which really suits your flying style and needs.


3- theres a real push for TECHNICAL suits and fabrics which for the most part are a load of sh~t. proconcept tries to make out that drag is soooo specifically placed that it aids in flying precisely etc... i think this is possibly the case but amount to less than 1% of the overall flying profile


Im not so sure about that. As we become more refined flyers wouldnt you agree that out equipment should become more refined and better suited to evolving flying styles? Be it rigs, altis, suits etc...?

Im a big believer in less flapping material to create drag. I think it is better to have double lined suits that are tighter but are able to increase the amout of drag. Thats just what I would personly look for in a suit. if I needed that bit more range. I dont think I would like alot of flapping material (inducing unessesary input ) based around the extremitys

I think Matter suits offer this with their pro concept range and most definatly aid in being a more flexible flyer with the spandex inserts etc....

Oh and If you dont like that we can just have a fight! see you behind the cricket pavilion at 6. Hahaha

[skydivadee 0]

what the pants are you geeks waffling about?

[Andrewnewell 0]

Not Pants. Suits!

We just enjoy hijacking threads to gob off at each other. You've met him, you know the score!

Oh and the obvious was wearing those howling cords the other day!

Im coming for you Piers!

[skydivadee 0]

The fight isnt gonna happen, due to the cut in the budget Fedykins hasn't got a 'Batman', so the risk of damage to the Howling Cords are too great.

[fedykin 0]

from the beggining

matter took 6 months for my suit when i ordered it and it took longer for you to get yours, just because your now getting 2 free suits because matter lost babylon and are desperate to get some people on the list, your position on them has changed overnight

funny that


Okay so lets make a list of all of the teams at world level competition have worn anything other than cotton or pollycotton




pretty long list

lets now make a list of all of the teams which are flying any of these suits




the list is endless

just because one or two manufacturers who both are strangely situated in empuriabrava, which as far as im concerned is one of the biggest hubbs of misinformation on the planet and are trying to convince the public that they should be spending more money on more expensive suits which as far as most of us have seen, doesnt help anyone...

imput in the extremities, well this is what both Olav and Alchemy swear by in term of where your drag loading should be, but hey, i guess you know something that they dont
and also this is the most efficient place to put drag given our biomechanics and where our center of drag is best placed if flying on our heads

the argument of thicker matierials vs. more matierials is a bit muddied, however one thing is undeniable

drag is drag, if the matierial has a higher drag value if it is thicker, or there is more of it, the quotent is the same as is the effect


who is this guy skydee or whatever???

[ScottMcC 0]

UPDATE-UPDATE:

Matter has offered to do the custom diamond design for me at no charge, I just have to pay for the suit plus other options. They wanted to apologize for past inconvenience.

I still haven't heard back from Sonic. Well...I got an email from them saying they never received any emails from me, but no reply to the email I resent.

[Andrewnewell 0]

Dude, why you say this man? ( thought Id get that in remeber the last time?)

Ok, so people move on and businesses will continue to support different teams. thats just the way it is. If it didnt happen things would get stagnant.

I think it comendable that different Manufactures experiment with different designs, after all, are we not all in the sport to progress?? Ever heard of nothing ventured nothing gained?

So what if two different suit manufactures that are experimenting with different designs happen to be in the same location. Empuria just happens to be a great testing ground for their products. having two suit manufactures in close proximity means healthy competition, which inturn leads to the invention and refinment of better products.

Ok so I agree with you on the fact that we should have drag at the extremities, obviously this gives us power in the air. What I was referring to was having counter productive flapping at the ends of our limbs where we lack most muscle control. Keep the drag there and reduce outside input can only be a good thing, but hey your right what do I know?

Chill your boots man! We still on for six?

come on now lets all just have a group hugg? Urrgghhh!

[VectorBoy 0]

the argument of thicker matierials vs. more matierials is a bit muddied, however one thing is undeniable

drag is drag, if the matierial has a higher drag value if it is thicker, or there is more of it, the quotent is the same as is the effect

[rhys 0]

i just got my new BB jumpsuit from thailand.

she made it how i wanted (fitting but not tight) my colours, my design (all black with a red stripe down the sides,legs and arms with white piping)

she picked me up from town (hua hin thailand) took measurements found a hotel for me made the jumpsuit and delivered it to me at my hotel within 24 hours of meeting her.

she makes shitloads od jumpsuits mainly saussie suits though but does a very good job. my ff suit cost only nz$170

prices are in thailand baht freefly suit. 4500 baht, freefly pants 2000 baht, saussie suit 4000baht

p.m. me if you want contact (phone) details.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[skydiva75 0]

:-)

[skydiva75 0]

Why do people think they always know the truth, i would stop bad mouthing people!! how do you know what really happened with Matter and Babylon??? i bet you don't!!

Why do you sponser people? what should you get in return???

[skydiva75 0]

what is the matter with you all???

[skydiva75 0]

Matter are professional, honest and hard working people who just want to provide good quality suits, at an affordable price , cheaper than competers,and good customer service and will try to help you in any way!!

I love my matter suit and will definately buy another!!!

[WrongWay 0]

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I love my matter suit and will definately buy another!!!

I second that. Cedric has been nothing but helpful and prompt with me, and I couldn't be happier with my suit.

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[ianmdrennan 2]

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I second that. Cedric has been nothing but helpful and prompt with me, and I couldn't be happier with my suit.

God, I can't wait for our suits now. All this talk is getting me too excited!!!! Just a few more weeks.......

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[skydivadee 0]

Matter Rock

you pay for high quality workmanship, the suits are the nads, I have 2, 1 shorty and 1 FF.

the only gripe ( and Im a pussy ) is in a hot place they can get a touch too warm as it is a heavy fabric, but weighing up the options I rather sweat than sow a rip !!!