Kris 0 #26 February 10, 2002 I love my Mirage G3 UNISYN. I have the freefly deployment handle and because of the bullet-proof construction the entire container will stay closed until I open it, period. I am a big guy too and I find the UNISYN harness to be the most comfortable that I have tried on compared to the standard Mirage, a Talon and a Javelin that I have jumped.The Mirage is definitely pricey (thank God for my staff discount) but it is really well built, uses top quality hardware, and I have recieved nothing but great service from Bill & the gang at Mirage. If I didn't have a Mirage I think the only other container I would check out would be the Wings.Kris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #27 February 11, 2002 I have a Mirage G3 and love it, but the Voodoo is also an awesome rig.. I haven't jumped the Wings.. The only problem with the Voodoo is that they don't offer it in appropriate size combinations for me.. I refuse to go down to a 126 reserve just so that I can keep my current main - a 160 reserve is as small as I want to go.. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #28 February 11, 2002 Quote i love my power racer. most comfortable rig on the market. Jumpers love the power racer......riggers seem to hate 'em, though.. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirils 1 #29 February 11, 2002 Thank you Marcus....Skydiving is not a static excercise with discrete predictability... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #30 February 11, 2002 Quote Two things I don't like about Mirages - the price (which is almost understandable considering how labor intensive it must be to manufacture - all those pieces...) and the ends on the cutaway housings - I don't think sharp edges are a good idea anywhere near cutaway cables, I prefer smooth grommets inside the eye. My Mirage G3 has a single piece ending on the cutaway cable housings - no sharp edges whatsoever.....did the older ones have grommets there?One problem with the Mirage is that they use short shank grommets on the closing flaps, which if not properly crimped can have sharp edges.....easy fix, have them re-crimped by just about any major loft with a grommet machine.. When I got my Mirage, my rigger re-crimped one of the grommets because it had a slight edge on it(not good near the closing loop), but the rest were fine..Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirils 1 #31 February 11, 2002 My fiance prefers her Reflex and is already talking about the "hottest rig on the market, the Trident" (she has tried my G-3, Vortex and M-2) I prefer the Vortex. With so many variables to consider in rig fit and performance, how can we say "this is the best rig?" Take a look at the container or canopy reviews at this site. There are actually no negative reviews. Everyone loves their gear, "it's the best!". Do we lack obectivity? Most certainly! Considering the price of equipment and the hunger for ad dollars, do you really think the Parachutist or Skydiving would have the guts (or capital reserves) to do an empirical comparison of equipment? Profitability and politics always come before objectivity. So think what you like, but, "THE VORTEX KICKS ASS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"Skydiving is not a static excercise with discrete predictability... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #32 February 11, 2002 QuoteMy Mirage G3 has a single piece ending on the cutaway cable housings - no sharp edges whatsoeverI'm talking about the inside of the "eye" on the single piece ending. Put a finger on either side of it and push down, you'll see what I mean when you pull your fingers away and see round imprints on them. Think cable suck through here. pull and flare,lisa--What would Scooby Doo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unisyn 0 #33 February 11, 2002 In reply to: Skybytch's comment "I'm talking about the inside of the "eye" on the single piece ending. Put a finger on either side of it and push down, you'll see what I mean when you pull your fingers away and see round imprints on them. Think cable suck through here. "I think you are miss understanding how the forces act on the cable, loop, and end fitting. The end fitting that Mirage Systems used from 1996-2002 was designed by the Army to reduce the likelihood of the cable being "sucked" through the end fitting during deployment. The smooth flat surface distributes the force over a greater area, reducing the likelihood of kinking or worse yet pulling through. This year Mirage Systems retooled the end fitting to improve the design that the US Army developed a number of years ago. This was at a great cost to Mirage Systems. They believes that it provides a safer cutaway system to the jumper. The VERY common amp end fitting was developed from an electrical connection crimp, bell telephone wire housing, and a grommet. It's cheap and it works well in MOST situations. But in heavy riser loads it FAILS, allowing the riser loop to pull the cable through beveled grommet impeding a cutaway.BTW the Army has over 20,000 end fittings in service. All of them have an exceptional record. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harro 0 #34 February 12, 2002 Love my voodoo!Very comfy. Great bridle/pin protection. I have had no problem with the container. The sabre in it is another story!!!!Spanking me like a mother superior!!!Freemind, freesky, freebeer, freefly, freesex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benforde 0 #35 October 6, 2003 I am looking at a G3, with or without UNISYN... is it worth the exra cash? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sssbc99 0 #36 October 6, 2003 Not if youre buying it new...Get an infinity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #37 October 7, 2003 QuoteI am looking at a G3, with or without UNISYN... is it worth the exra cash? I think it is. I've tried on Mirage G3's with the standard harness and with UNISYN. I really prefer the rings. That having been said, if I was going to buy a rig tomorrow I'd have a hard time choosing between a Wings or an infinity. I just can't justify the price on the Mirage. You can get the same quality, comfort, and safety for a lot less cash by going to an Infinity or Wings.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ypelchat 0 #38 October 7, 2003 QuoteThe vortex II is made by Chute Shop South Africa. Their website is down in the moment, but you can take a look here: http://www.vortex2systems.com/term.htm and here are some pics: http://www.chuteshop.co.uk/vortex album.htm Looks like a javelin - and is really cool, comfortable, and cheap! No one makes smaller rigs for what canopy combination ever! Definitely. -- Perfect speed, my son, is being there. - Jonathan Livingston Seagull Chute Shop has changed name, and is now known as "Parachute Systems" They make the Vortex II. The new web site is: http://www.parachutesystems.co.za/ For those of you, who would like to see what a Vortex II look like, I have posted a few pictures of my Vortex II, in the "General Skydiving Discussions" forum. Look for the post: "Here's my new toy" Yves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ypelchat 0 #39 October 7, 2003 QuoteQuote The problem is they seem hard to get here in the States. You can order them cheap out of South Africa, but service sucks and it takes forever. I wish there was a US distributor. There is a U.S distributor: Parachute Systems U.S.A Office Louis Tomasso [email protected] Yves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #40 October 7, 2003 Wings. A bullet-proof design at a great price. Not to mention that their customer service is hands down one of the best (if not the best) in the industry.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
totalbodypilot 0 #41 October 7, 2003 Defanatly WINGS! I have never had any issues, and i've been jump'n them since there beginning. seek and destroy, clear and sweep, what ever you want to call it, its all fun in games in the game of war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benforde 0 #42 October 7, 2003 cause of the price? or the fact that you now think these two brands are better than your current G3? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benforde 0 #43 October 7, 2003 If $$$$ is not a factor, you'd get an Infinity over a Mirage G3? Why? Ps. this is for Freeflying. Thx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #44 October 7, 2003 I know you weren't asking me, but... If price was no factor, I'd still buy a Wings. I've personally seen 2 premies on a G3, not cool. Not only that, but I'm not going to spend nearly $1000 extra on a rig that is no better then a Wings. That would be asinine.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyanvil 0 #45 October 7, 2003 wings f#&kin' rock period - and there's NO WAY anyone can match their awesome customer service. I just got my second one! .Vid "stons fal, evrysing fals, but doesnt on purpos change its flite pas an positioning..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #46 October 7, 2003 I love my Vector III. I've never had any problems with it, whatsoever. *knocks on wood* If I didn't have that, i'd have either a G4 or Voodoo. Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sssbc99 0 #47 October 7, 2003 QuoteIf $$$$ is not a factor, you'd get an Infinity over a Mirage G3? Why? Ps. this is for Freeflying. Thx If money wasnt an issue i would probably still get an infinity because of delivery times (even though i have seen a few that took much longer than the promised time). Plus infinity is closer to me. If youre buying your first container, get it used if you can find something because you are most likely going to downsize in a relatively short amount of time. I know it is for freeflying. The infinity and wings are both just as safe as the mirage or anything else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crawford 0 #48 October 7, 2003 I, personally am on my 5th Wings Container and have to agree with just about everyone in here. Their Customer support is, by far, the best in the industry. I have not had any problems with this container system, period. I predominately do Freeflying and Wingsuit flying and have not found a better container system for the money! "Sure, those Golf Carts may look all warm and fuzzy, but they WILL take a chunk out of your ass!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrpayne 0 #49 October 7, 2003 Can't thing of anything I would change on my Wings. It's perfect! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #50 October 7, 2003 QuoteDefanatly WINGS! I have never had any issues, and i've been jump'n them since there beginning. You've been sponsored from the beginning too Obviously this is a very Wings friendly Thread. I'll take the Infinity for a number of reasons. Great riser coverage. Larger main pin cover. Exellent Reserve pin coverage. Very packer and rigger friendly. Non exposed reserve pilot chute. I have the oppurtunity to get some free equipment but I chose to purchase an Infinity.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
