Sergey-san 0 #1 July 16, 2008 I'm planning to start camera-jumps. I want to build my video-platform around Sony HC5 and Bonehead Flat-Top Narrow helmet. I'm looking for advice from people who are jumping similar configurtion on what will be the best way to mount HC5? What models of quick-release mounts are compatibel with Flat-Top Narrow? I'm kind of inclined towards using a box... mostly for camera protection from accidental bumps or from cold, rain in clouds and other elements... I understand drawbacks of using a box as well (less access to video camera for tandem interviews, getting the tape in and out of the camera for debrief or recording, etc). I haven't seen Bonehead boxes, except the photos on their website. Personally like Cookies boxes:) Which ones are more convinient for use? Appreciate input from camera gurus! Sergey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skydave103 0 #2 July 16, 2008 I just configured this last week using a Cookie Liquid flat lock and a L bracket I had made. I tried using the front mount for my stills, but I didn't like it. A 20D with a 10-22mm Canon lens is too heavy for that. XTi would work better. It is top heavy but I don't mind that. With the vertical stills mount the pic's have great depth that I wasn't getting with a horizontal mount. I cut a piece of wood to support the lens. covered it in gaffers tape. Gives the camera a lot of support. I would recommend some sort of support no matter how you mount your camera. DaveLifeshouldNOTbeajourneytothegravewithawellpreservedbody,buttskidinsideways,cigarinone hand,martiniintheother,bodythoroughlyused upandscreaming:"WOO HOO!! What a ride!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sergey-san 0 #3 July 16, 2008 Thanks a lot for your input and pictures, Dave! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frost 1 #4 July 16, 2008 Dont limit yourself to an FTN. Get the Pro. I was faced with the same dilemma, I wanted to be able to have the option to jump virtually any video+stills set up i wanted. After looking at both FTP and FTN and having some good advice from fellow video guys, i realized that FTN wont allow you to jump a hard core configuration like "video + good stills + good flash" without at least some modifications. FTP is the way to go. As far as QR, look at the Cookie Flatlock. Excellent QR, thin and light. I own three of them mounted on various helmets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #5 July 16, 2008 Anyone have an opinion as to why to go with the FTN as opposed to the FTP, besides $50? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foster 0 #6 July 16, 2008 I'll toss another vote in for the liquid flatlock, very nice design, probably the lowest profile quick mount out there. If you get the box I would suggest getting the new HypeyeD... one button for power on and record instead of putting your finger in a little hole to turn the power on and then another little hole to hit record... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Costyn 0 #7 July 16, 2008 QuoteI'll toss another vote in for the liquid flatlock, very nice design, probably the lowest profile quick mount out there. I think the Zkulls quick release is probably the flattest: http://rcb-lab.com/product1.htm The space left between the helmet and mounted object is less than 1mm (1/32 inches). Yes, you do have to drill a 50mm hole into your helmet, but hey, it works beautifully. Highly recommended.Costyn van Dongen - http://www.flylikebrick.com/ - World Wide Wingsuit News Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foster 0 #8 July 16, 2008 QuoteQuoteI'll toss another vote in for the liquid flatlock, very nice design, probably the lowest profile quick mount out there. I think the Zkulls quick release is probably the flattest: http://rcb-lab.com/product1.htm The space left between the helmet and mounted object is less than 1mm (1/32 inches). Yes, you do have to drill a 50mm hole into your helmet, but hey, it works beautifully. Highly recommended. I'm glad you mentioned the giant hole so I didnt have to :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedKite 1 #9 July 16, 2008 Hi Might not suit everyone but this does it for me!!! All of the switches are accessible. The tape can be ejected without a problem. Also the screen can swing open no problem. Only thing you can't do with the helmet in situ is remove the battery. I bashed my head a lot when I first started - never damaged the camera, just scuffed the roll-bars. Also. the bars are light, hollow but incredibly strong aluminium tubes. All you need to fit them is a hacksaw and a pipe-bender. As you can see my camera is a HC3 but it matters not. It's a one camera screw release and it's cheap to do!!! Sorry about the size of the photos!Best RedKite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #10 July 16, 2008 I have a HC5 in a box on a manfrotto (bogen) quickrelease, on a FTN-type helmet. My box is made by Tonfly. I like the FTN it does everything I want - topmount video and frontmount stills. I need a new helmet next season and I'll be getting a FTP, because I'd like to experiment with vertical stills and can then mount 2 cameras for competitions. But I'll keep the FTN around for wingsuiting etc. http://www.paracentrumteuge.nl/component/option,com_zoom/Itemid,489/page,view/catid,46/PageNo,2/key,159/hit,1/ http://www.paracentrumteuge.nl/component/option,com_zoom/Itemid,489/page,view/catid,50/PageNo,1/key,81/hit,1/ ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #11 July 16, 2008 QuoteI have a HC5 in a box on a manfrotto (bogen) quickrelease, on a FTN-type helmet. My box is made by Tonfly. I like the FTN it does everything I want - topmount video and frontmount stills. I need a new helmet next season and I'll be getting a FTP, because I'd like to experiment with vertical stills and can then mount 2 cameras for competitions. But I'll keep the FTN around for wingsuiting etc. http://www.paracentrumteuge.nl/component/option,com_zoom/Itemid,489/page,view/catid,46/PageNo,2/key,159/hit,1/ http://www.paracentrumteuge.nl/component/option,com_zoom/Itemid,489/page,view/catid,50/PageNo,1/key,81/hit,1/ I can't quite make it out, but in the second shot, under your left hand, what does that sign say? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #12 July 16, 2008 Quote Quote I have a HC5 in a box on a manfrotto (bogen) quickrelease, on a FTN-type helmet. My box is made by Tonfly. I like the FTN it does everything I want - topmount video and frontmount stills. I need a new helmet next season and I'll be getting a FTP, because I'd like to experiment with vertical stills and can then mount 2 cameras for competitions. But I'll keep the FTN around for wingsuiting etc. http://www.paracentrumteuge.nl/component/option,com_zoom/Itemid,489/page,view/catid,46/PageNo,2/key,159/hit,1/ http://www.paracentrumteuge.nl/component/option,com_zoom/Itemid,489/page,view/catid,50/PageNo,1/key,81/hit,1/ I can't quite make it out, but in the second shot, under your left hand, what does that sign say? what do you think it says ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #13 July 16, 2008 Quote I can't quite make it out, but in the second shot, under your left hand, what does that sign say? what do you think it says It looks like a warning against holding on too hard. Overgripping can really wear you out as well as interfere with your exit timingedited to add: Don't take it personally. I noticed something similar in the Hypeye ad in Skydiving magazine where the camera flyer is holding on to the flap hinge. I guess I'm weird that way...and others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sergey-san 0 #14 July 17, 2008 Thanks everyone for your advices and opinions, very useful! And photos were of great help too! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites