DSE 3 #1 February 25, 2008 here is a draft of a speed review for a magazine, about the Sony HC9 camcorder Hope it helps anyone looking at new camcorders. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guana 0 #2 February 25, 2008 Thanks for the great report. I think I am going this route. Any comments on the audio quality of this Sony? I have heard the Cannon's were pretty weak in this area and you had suggested a remote mic. Does the sony have as good audio pick up as most regular sony cams? Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #3 February 25, 2008 Coincidental you'd bring this up...audio was tested this morning when we had more people in the studio to work with. Audio is identical on this camcorder as in previous models, no detected changes. I'd wondered if the DSP was doing anything to the audio, since it obviously is affecting the video, but it doesn't. In other words, it's pretty good. Nice that it's got a mic input though. Also doing the low-light test this morning, so you'll want to refresh that review later today if it doesn't have candle images in it. when you view it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #4 February 25, 2008 Just curious. What kind of box are you using?Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cookie 0 #5 February 25, 2008 CookieBTW we have redesigned the HC box. It will now open on the side to flip the view finder out and if you are game enough. You can side mount it. Stock will be available in the next 4-6weeks Cookie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #6 February 25, 2008 I have a Cookie box that I put this in to test size, and have a custom Terry Schumacher box that it will eventually live in, once it's delivered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #7 February 25, 2008 Cool. Those hc-9's look like they're about $680-750 if you get one online. I was just thinking about getting one when the time comes for me to jump camera. Its nice to know that boxes are made for them. thanks Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #8 February 25, 2008 If you can find an HC9 from a real dealer, not a greymarket dealer for sub 900.00, I'd jump on it. Fast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #9 February 25, 2008 http://www.bwayphoto.com/ViewProduct.aspx?ID=9776328&l=ShopCartUSA http://www.cameraaddict.com/viewproduct.aspx?ID=9776310&l=ShopCartUSA http://1wayphoto.com/products.asp?dept_id=&product_id=13638&sale_ref_key=mTE2nzOxmDm5nTY0nDOwoJmyoJK2mTK2oTi$ Any of these guys reputable?Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #10 February 25, 2008 Quotehttp://www.bwayphoto.com/ViewProduct.aspx?ID=9776328&l=ShopCartUSA http://www.cameraaddict.com/viewproduct.aspx?ID=9776310&l=ShopCartUSA http://1wayphoto.com/products.asp?dept_id=&product_id=13638&sale_ref_key=mTE2nzOxmDm5nTY0nDOwoJmyoJK2mTK2oTi$ Any of these guys reputable? nope. Not a one. www.resellerratings.com, you can see for yourself. These sorts of resellers are dangerous, IMO. Either you're getting only a camera, paying extra for powersupply, batteries, manual, etc or you're getting nothing and left holding a bag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #11 February 25, 2008 Damn. I am way too fuckin gullable. I would have bought it there and not even given it a second thought. I'm kinda glad this forum is here to keep people like me from getting fucked out of some money. Thanks for the info. Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 0 #12 February 25, 2008 Quote Damn. I am way too fuckin gullable. I would have bought it there and not even given it a second thought. I'm kinda glad this forum is here to keep people like me from getting fucked out of some money. Thanks for the info. Use pricegrabber.com and search by price and store rating. Decent ones are B&H, Adorama, Beach Camera, Butterfly, etc. Amazon usually is pretty competitive with price too, and can't be beat as far as megastore reliability.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newshooter12 0 #13 February 25, 2008 very nice. Fair & Honest review thank you Matt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #14 February 25, 2008 review updated with lowlight pix. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
velocityphoto 0 #15 February 25, 2008 Always buy your camera equipment from a reputable dealer such as B&H or Adorama.You always get what you pay for ,and won't get jerked around about a warranty or batteries and accessories .I refuse to do business with other dealers . :) A friend will bail you out of jail , a REAL friend will be sitting next to you in the cell slapping your hand saying "DUDE THAT WAS AWSUM " ................ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laszloimage 0 #16 February 26, 2008 Spot, Did you have any chance to check the data transfer options between the memory stick and the tape? Can you transfer video back and forth between them? Thanks! -Laszlo- ps. I forgot to tell you... two days later it was my turn in the restaurant (a different one though) you know the forgotten food... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #17 February 26, 2008 LOL, I hope you spilled something sticky on that waitress, you bitch!No. there is no memory Xfer from stick to tape. No different than previous camcorders. BUT!! I did get some info about future camcorders that I'll share in person. My turn for dinner. Leave your boyfriend home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GavTr0n 0 #18 February 26, 2008 having the HC-7 and already loving its quality, the review smashed my world. really great cameras and yes the cookie box is wonderful. heres a couple pictures of mine on a skysystems.I believe a believer, not a lie from a liar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
basehoundsam 0 #19 February 26, 2008 Question..... would you see any reason to upgrade from an HC-7 to a 9?? Any difference in quality ?? Jay Epstein Ramirez www.adrenalineexploits.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #20 February 26, 2008 Quote Question..... would you see any reason to upgrade from an HC-7 to a 9?? Any difference in quality ?? Yes, there is a slight upshift in quality. Is it worth ito spend the $$ for an upgrade? Not really. Yeah, better encoder/DSP, but enough difference that the average joe is gonna notice it? Only if they're comparing side by side. The HC7 is a very fine cam, as is the HC5. Now...ifyou've got an old HC3 (I do) then it's likely worth _considering_ but only if it's a "I kinda need a new camcorder, but I really want a new camcorder" situation, IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #21 February 26, 2008 Quote BUT!! I did get some info about future camcorders that I'll share in person. tease!"Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HSPScott 0 #22 February 29, 2008 I searched on pricegrabber and found PCNattion.com. They were great on the phone and had a great price. Plus the give free 3 day FedEx. Now I just have to get it mounted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unparagoned 0 #23 March 3, 2008 Quote having the HC-7 and already loving its quality, the review smashed my world. really great cameras and yes the cookie box is wonderful. heres a couple pictures of mine on a skysystems. I thought the HC7 didn't work well for skydiving due to the optical image stabilizer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #24 March 3, 2008 OIS is more a problem for freeflyers than for belly flyers. I have no issues with OIS when flying for tandems or the comparitively little four-way work, but if I'm freeflying, the burble, particularly on a flat-top, can be a problem. However, most of that problem is me, not the camera. EIS offers a loss in resolution but is smoother for high-vibration situations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PharmerPhil 0 #25 March 3, 2008 I have certainly noticed OIS problems while filming belly flyers with an older TRV-900. Not enough to make the footage completely unusable, but enough to make OIS an undesirable feature for any future camera purchases. This is unfortunate, because EIS is typically only used on cheaper cameras. However IMHO, the resolution compromises in EIS cameras are much, much less objectionable than shaky footage obtained using either no IS, or OIS. My too sense... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites