Niklasp 0 #1 October 25, 2006 Im new to this still photo stuff. Think im going to buy the 400D. What wideangle lens can you recommend. Guess im looking for something that is similar to a. 0.45-0.6ish in video. or? Can anyone recommend a lens for all-round freefall and mayby even a link Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #2 October 25, 2006 canon or sigma 15mm fixed.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparko 0 #3 October 25, 2006 The kit lens (18-55mm) which comes with the 400D matches up pretty good with a .45 lens, works sweet. Not as good as some of the wider angle lenses but is cheaper and does the job still... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bofh 0 #4 October 25, 2006 QuoteThe kit lens (18-55mm) which comes with the 400D matches up pretty good with a .45 lens, works sweet. Not as good as some of the wider angle lenses but is cheaper and does the job still... My PC107 has about the same image angle as a 43mm lens on a 35mm camera. With Sony's 0625 converter (a 0.6x converter), it then becomes about the same as a 26mm lens on a 35mm camera. With a proper 0.45 converter it would become 19mm. The Canon kit lens at 18mm has the same image angle as a 29mm on a 35mm camera (there's a 1.6 factor between the 400D's image sensor and the full 35mm sensor, making the image angle wider), so one need a 12mm lens to get the same image angle as a proper 0.45 converter on a PC107. The DCR-PC5 and DCR-PC9's image is slightly wider, 42mm in 35mm terms, but the end result is about the same (11.8mm focal length is needed). A few converters are incorrectly labeled. If you have a stepring inbetween the converter and the camera, it will also change the convertion factor. If you want the exact same image angle, borrow a Canon 10-22mm and adjust until you get the same image angle, then you know the focal length you want and can choose a lense (fixed or zoom) that match. Edited to also answer the OP: I'd go for a Canon EF-S 10-22/f3.5-4.5, it is fast, light (340g) and generally a really good zoom lens. Its a bit expensive though. Cheaper zoom lenses to examine are: Tokina AT-X Pro 12-24/4,0 DX Tamron AF SP 11-18/4,5-5,6 Di II Sigma EX 10-20/4,0-5,6 DC HSM Search the net for reviews. A friend of mine is very happy with his Tamron for his Nikon. It is also quite light (355g). You could also go for a fixed lense, they generally need less light, are smaller and are better at handling direct sunlight on them, but the ones I've seen that are non-fisheye are quite expensive (Canon's 14/2.8L, Sigma EX 14/2,8 HSM and Tamron AF SP 14/2,8 ASL). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 256 #5 October 25, 2006 QuoteYou could also go for a fixed lense, they generally need less light, are smaller and are better at handling direct sunlight on them, but the ones I've seen that are non-fisheye are quite expensive (Canon's 14/2.8L, Sigma EX 14/2,8 HSM and Tamron AF SP 14/2,8 ASL). Bear in mind that the 15mm "fisheyes" from canon and sigma are not really fisheyes on 1.6 crop factor cameras (300D (Rebel), 350D (Rebel XT), 400D(Rebel XTi), 10D 20D and 30D) They are more just Ultra Wide angles.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 0 #6 October 25, 2006 QuoteBear in mind that the 15mm "fisheyes" from canon and sigma are not really fisheyes on 1.6 crop factor cameras (300D (Rebel), 350D (Rebel XT), 400D(Rebel XTi), 10D 20D and 30D) They are more just Ultra Wide angles. Whether or not you want to call it a fisheye, the distortions are still fairly high. See the attached pictures (taken with 350D) from Canon 15mm review on photozone.de. The Canon 10-22mm has AMAZINGLY low distortions (virtually zero) across the entire zoom range. I just got mine a few days ago and will be trying it out this weekend.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #7 October 25, 2006 They're still not straight. Straight lenses (ie the 14mm Canon, 14mm Sigma etc) are way more expensive and unfortunately also heavier. I really don't like the 15/16mm fisheyes on a digital, so I'll probaby sell my zenitar 16mm since I never use it... ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bofh 0 #8 October 25, 2006 QuoteThey're still not straight. Straight lenses (ie the 14mm Canon, 14mm Sigma etc) are way more expensive and unfortunately also heavier. I really don't like the 15/16mm fisheyes on a digital, so I'll probaby sell my zenitar 16mm since I never use it... There are computer programs to correct the pictures afterwards, if one wants. I don't have a fisheye, so I've not tried them, but I've heard that they do give really good results. One extra step in the photography though and I would only take photos in RAW if I were to postprocess them like that... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 0 #9 October 25, 2006 10-22 is lighter than most of the fixed lenses I've found, but definitely not cheap.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #10 October 25, 2006 ? Did you mean to reply to me? I was talking about (fixed) fisheye lenses not zoom lenses. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 0 #11 October 25, 2006 Yes, I did. Since you mentioned that straight fixed lenses are heavier and more expensive than fisheye fixed, I added that the 10-22 (not fisheyed), while still more expensive, is actually lighter, (and a zoom lens, obviously).www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #12 October 29, 2006 i have the kit-lens18-55 on my 350d,should be similar,you can have a look as you get back home. Will surgest wider through.. 15 or 12mm..,i know its critical as i want to be on thouse pictures right My 350d should be ready for jump mode as you visit in dec. Dont f#ck too many h¤¤kers down there Give me a shout on msn,i might take a still whith a 0,45 and the 18mm for you.. Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pcalandra 0 #13 October 31, 2006 I 2nd the Canon 10-22mm it's great lens and it's not too heavy. I had the Sigma 15mm also and it was too distorted or fisheye "like" for my taste. Pat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
