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MacBook Pro Question

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I just bought a MacBook Pro and part of the deal was that the guy would pre-install Boot Camp and a whole bunch of programs for me. I have found now that Windows has been allocated about 25gigs and OSX 70gigs. Is there any way to change the partition? I want to give XP less gigs because I have no intention of using it..

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I can't find anything on the Apple support site about resizing Boot Camp Partitions. I came across a comment that indicates you can't resize the partition:

From Macfixit forums...

In reply to:
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The ability to manipulate data and write a new partition without erasing the data already exists in Boot Camp.
I have little doubt that Apple will incorporate this into Leopard.
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Boot Camp doesn't give you the option to create Mac partitions, only Boot Camp partitions (which then require you to erase and format them as HFS+ partitions). The ability to dynamically resize Boot Camp partitions does not exist.

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Why don't you look into buying a copy of Parallels? Get rid of the Boot Camp partition and be able to run Win XP without rebooting. If you've installed a ton of Windows programs you'd have to do it all over again but all the free space on your hard drive would be available if you use Parallels.
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[edit:]I'm an idiot, I misread the initial post. That'll teach me for posting at work...

As for rearranging your partitions, you're pretty much looking at a full restore of the hard drive. In layman's terms: erase it and start over.
I really don't know what I'm talking about.

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I gotta ask... why did you buy a Mac if you're not going to use it as a Mac?



I think the opposite applies. Kirz is saying that XP is taking too much space, and wants to change the partition to use it as a Mac-only, no? "I want to give XP less gigs because I have no intention of using it." suggests that BootCamp was installed for no reason, if XP isn't going to be used.
I for one, love mine. Both fave PC and Apple apps on one computer, no more carrying around two. My shoulders are very happy.

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I will look into Parallels thanks for that!

Lucky I only got this laptop yesterday so I am happy to re-install XP if need be.
This sucks so much though, I can't understand why this is happening! I have installed the Final Cut Studio, Macromedia Dreamweaver & Flash, Adobe Acrobat & Photoshop, MS Office & a Thai-English dictionary program. That's it. Everything else came with OSX. Out of the 72gigs available on my Mac side, already 40gigs have been used! WHAT THE?!?!?!?!?! I found out that about 26gigs of this is in the Application Support folder under Library. This is so insane! I have a capacity of 72gigs on the OSX side and I can't even move my music (30gigs) onto my new computer because it is too full! What the?!?!?!!? The Applications folder is only 4gb.. I can't understand this!

I had an 80GB XP based HP before, had about 10 times as many programs on it & it still held over 60GB of my personal stuff (music, photos, movies).

I am so frustrated. I have a new laptop, installed the bare minimum programs I need and am already out of space before moving any of my information across. I feel like I just down-graded.

Anyone else had such a problem? Do you know if it is because Mac versions of programs are just a million times larger or am I holding useless info on my comp?

Also, under Users --> Shared, there is a folder called Motion which has 6GB of stuff. I still don't know what it is.. can't figure it out.. does anyone know if it is necessary for me to keep this on my laptop?

On the plus side, it is a really fast laptop...

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Just a guess but I bet the Application Support folder is where the XP partition shows up when you are in OS X. I have a ton of apps on my machine and the Application Folder is 3.47 GB, my Application Support folder is 5.92 gb.

Having two OSes on your machine is going to chew up hard drive space in a hurry. Can you return it and get a model with the 120 gb hard drive?

I have 250 gb on my machine plus two external drives of 60 and 160...and I still plug them up ... with video and photos and music the space just disappears.
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The reason your Application Support folder is so big is Final Cut Studio. Final Cut Studio's install is 42GB in its entirety. You don't have to install it all, but if you've installed even a handful of the themes, loops, templates and tutorials... it fills up quickly. I'll give you one guess where those files live.

Beyond that, tutorials, templates and presets for the other apps you mentioned can take up a lot of room as well.

Then consider the amount of data that's on the machine from the factory. Take iDVD, for example. Every single iDVD theme? Not small. Every iMovie template - including the high definition ones? The HD isn't exactly "empty" from the factory.


This sort of work takes up space. To put it in perspective, my editing/compositing/working G5 has 1.4TB of storage across 6 drives. I could fill up twice that.

With regards to "returning the machine to get a bigger hard drive," you won't have any luck. Just consider how much the 10% restocking fee would be.
I really don't know what I'm talking about.

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RE: Parallels,

I just tested it, and un-installed it.

I found the interface to be "choppy", and more importantly it wasn't good at recognizing external ports.... so no USB access. Depending on what you want it for, this may not be an issue.

You might want to look at "Cross over Mac" by Codeweavers.

Their first version for mac is due out soon... it will supposedly emulate a windows environment for individual programs.... ie. you will be able to install a windows program on your mac, without the virtual windows OS.

RE: Hard Drive Space.

Funny, I was wondering about that too, on the Macbook-no-pro that I just got. I've had some luck with un-installing programs that I'm sure I won't use.

Unlike you, I don't find my new machine (2.0Ghz Dual, 2.0ghz RAM, 120Gig 5400 HD) to be all that fast. I get a lot of spinning beach balls when scrolling through large PDF docs with pics, RAW pics take a while to load, Word often lags a few letters while typing (presumably due to running through rosetta), quicktime is horribly slow and choppy at .wmv files (again, presumably due to the rosetta emulation for the "flip for mac" plug-in)

Slick UI, tho... just not as good as the rep would indicate.

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use windows media player for wmv files instead.. or vlc or mplayer. Raw Photos should take a little time to load, especially in iphoto.

The new macbook with the same specs, except for the hard drive size is super super fast with no beach balls (even with Rosetta). Perhaps you have a funny RAM chip(s), corrupt preference, background process running, or sketchy logic board. I would consider an erase and install to see if the problem persists, if so, I would get it to a mac specialist to look into it.

(I am a mac certified desktop and portable technician)

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RE: Parallels,

I just tested it, and un-installed it.

I found the interface to be "choppy", and more importantly it wasn't good at recognizing external ports.... so no USB access. Depending on what you want it for, this may not be an issue.

You might want to look at "Cross over Mac" by Codeweavers.

Their first version for mac is due out soon... it will supposedly emulate a windows environment for individual programs.... ie. you will be able to install a windows program on your mac, without the virtual windows OS.

RE: Hard Drive Space.

Funny, I was wondering about that too, on the Macbook-no-pro that I just got. I've had some luck with un-installing programs that I'm sure I won't use.

Unlike you, I don't find my new machine (2.0Ghz Dual, 2.0ghz RAM, 120Gig 5400 HD) to be all that fast. I get a lot of spinning beach balls when scrolling through large PDF docs with pics, RAW pics take a while to load, Word often lags a few letters while typing (presumably due to running through rosetta), quicktime is horribly slow and choppy at .wmv files (again, presumably due to the rosetta emulation for the "flip for mac" plug-in)

Slick UI, tho... just not as good as the rep would indicate.



A Universal version of Flip for Mac is imminent.
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"No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey

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