PalleRai 0 #1 November 1, 2005 Hi (Canopy selection is one of the most important things for camera work... that is for the person flying a video/still+ set up... picking the canopy that has the least likelyhood of slamming you is important.) Yes I was jumping a new spectre 150 with flattop pro video/still and Mirage G3 on this video job.But If you do a bad pack job,you get this.Look at the slider! http://www.skydivevideo.dk/video/AV.wmv I'm glad that it was a spectre and not a sabre 1 at that time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #2 November 1, 2005 That slider was tight as a tootsie roll.....ouch Glad you were not hurt Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #3 November 1, 2005 I started jumping camera (topmount) 30 jumps ago on a demo Pilot 150 (while my Spectre 170 was getting relined). I had great openings on the Pilot, no matter what I did with my head (looking up, down, or ahead). When I got my Spectre back with new lines, I found that if I look up to watch the canopy (which I could get away with on the Pilot), I get my neck whipped near the end of the snivel. Watching the horizon and keeping my neck inline has fixed this problem, but I find it funny I could get away with watching my canopy with the Pilot, but not the Spectre. Just as well... my next canopy will be a Pilot anyway.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #4 November 1, 2005 Yea my spectre does that also. It acts like it is going to open soft as hell then right at the end when the slider hits the bumpers you get a "pop". It is not bad, it is just that you cannot predict when a real hard opening will occur b/c they all start out ok Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packing_jarrett 0 #5 November 1, 2005 yeah usually people uncollapse the slider when packingNa' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #6 November 2, 2005 I know you did it, b/c it is on video, but I just dont see how someone could not see that wad of material at the end of your risers while you were stowing you lines, putting your risers in the channels, and putting then bag in the container on top of the slider? Was all the damage confined to ripping the hard riser channels off the riser? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #7 November 2, 2005 If I had to guess, he didn't actually pack it slider down, he just left the slider collapsed (but it was up at the top of the lines). Is this right?www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #8 November 2, 2005 Yea my bad I watched it frame by frame, and in the first shot we get to see of the canopy the cells are open, and it is square. You cannot see the slider comming down, or not. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #9 November 2, 2005 fuckin ouch, man! how sore was your neck? how much does your helmet weigh? what equipment are you jumping(on your head) your other post makes me assume you are jumping a Flat top pro but what camera set up do you have. OUCH, My neck hurt just thinking about thatMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blazetailman 0 #10 November 2, 2005 Canopy selection had nothing to do with this hard opening. Is is an important consideration for camera flyers, but so is packing the parachute properly. One of the most important part of a good opening is a properly quartered slider that is not collasped and slider grommets are against the canopy slider stops. This should be maintained throughout the pack job until you stow the lines. THe slider has a tendency to slide down while the canopy is ont he ground. Any canopy will open hard if the slider is collasped. The slider is designed to retard the opening of the canopy. That's its job. If its collasped it makes it hard for the slider to do its job. I'm glad you are ok and make you spend a few extra mins packing. A buddy just made a good point: It is best to uncollaspe the slider after you land. That habit is good to make sure the slider is open.www.canopyflightcenter.com www.skydivesac.com www.guanofreefly.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #11 November 2, 2005 Uncollapsing your slider is important on any canopy. When I had my hard opening under a Saber1, I found a good chiropractor who helped tremendously. I STRONGLY recomend chicropractors for all neck and back issues. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #12 November 2, 2005 I know a guy who was on his back for awhile after doing the same thing. If you have a packer, fire him. If you pack for yourself, wake up, open your eyes, and pay attention to what you are doing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalleRai 0 #13 November 2, 2005 Hi I didn't pack it slider down,but slider was collapsed,(uncollaspe the slider after you land!) good point!! equipment:Flattop Pro, Pc9 video,canon 300. It open my eyes,and now I pay more attention! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deegs123 0 #14 November 9, 2005 I have a Spectre 170 and have to tell myself to focus on the horizion till opening shock. I still look up-habit I guess. Have yet-I repeat yet, to have a hard opening but rule of thumb is to focus on the horizon till opening. It is still a hard habit to break. Just hope I don't have to learn the hard way. By the way I fly an FF2 with a sony HC 30. Snug, great helmet and not a lot of weight on the head. Can anyone suggest a top mount digital that is small, compact, and does not weigh a lot, but will take quality pics 6-7 pix (?) Thx in advance DeegsCorvette Dude Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePhelps 0 #15 November 9, 2005 Similar thing happened to me a few month back. Dang near broke my neck. It did break my FTN. The guy who packed it is a DZO and a good guy. He swears he uncollapsed the slider. What we best could figure is one of the slider lines was not properly seated in the slider and the tag got caught on a crow's feet, thus creating one side uncollapsed as it slid down. It was a Sabre 1 ... BANGO! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #16 November 9, 2005 Jesus. Did the "chin" of the helmet hurt your chest? Was your neck permanently or seriously damaged? I would be amazed that the opening could be strong enough to break a helmet but not seriously harm your neck. My Optik Illusion has a ratchet clip there and someone once told me it could shatter my chestbone (whatever you call it) on a slammer. Not sure what to think about that...www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePhelps 0 #17 November 9, 2005 Yes, but what hurt a LOT more was the edge of the helmet's jaw cover buryinging into my lower jaw. I heard the carbon fiber break and thought it was my teeth breaking off. It cut my inner lip bad and my mouth was filled with blood when I landed. I also had a rib out from the harness. Nasty little booger of an opening! As far as the kneck goes ... Mine is 18 inches of strong muscle. Maybe that helped. Who knows but I did see my chiro every day that week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
