taz9420 0 #1 February 28, 2003 Just purchased a BoneHead full face helmet (it's neither a boomerang nor Havoc). I believe it's a discontinued item (marked down from $210 to $100) The helmet is comfortable as hell as well as being light. The only thing is that it doesn't have is a breathing vent next to my mouth. Should I take it back and spend the money on a Z1 (or something else) or will this lack of a vent be that big of a deal???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #2 February 28, 2003 Get a powerdrill and make yourself a vent, if you feel like one is necessary. AFAIK all fullfaces can fog up sometimes. And don't listen to anything I say, I don't jump fullface helmets. Don't feel like jumping with a mailbox on my head. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drenaline 0 #3 February 28, 2003 I have no idea what model you have, but to tell ya the truth the boomerang is much more comfortable than a Z1, maybe the drilling option is good. HISPA 21 www.panamafreefall.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beavdog 0 #4 February 28, 2003 100 isnt too bad...I say take the drill to it, if it doesnt work, you're not out that much... Here's to the Breezes that blows through the Trezzez..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #5 February 28, 2003 Bonhead has excellent customer service, they will help you until you are happy. Para-sport italia have crappy customer service, no matter how much work you go to try to talk to someone at the company, I'll be surprised if you actually succeed. I bought one Z1 a few years ago, and I never will again. I can't imagine trading in a perfectly good bonehead for the Z1. The Z1 has tons of issues itself, and is far from perfect. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keskeie 0 #6 February 28, 2003 I've heard their customer is crappy, but what other "issues" have you found with Z1's?We were never feeling bored because we were never being boring. -Zelda Fitzgerald Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JYorkster 0 #7 March 1, 2003 I've never had to deal with their customner service, so I'll take your word, there. But what 'issues' do you have with the Z1? I've had mine for a while, as has my wife. We've never experienced any issues. We love the Z1 and recommend them to everyone. Rock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Staso 0 #8 March 1, 2003 QuoteI've never had to deal with their customner service, so I'll take your word, there. But what 'issues' do you have with the Z1? I've had mine for a while, as has my wife. We've never experienced any issues. We love the Z1 and recommend them to everyone. Rock i'll second that. i love my z1. stan. -- it's not about defying gravity; it's how hard you can abuse it. speed skydiving it is ... Speed Skydiving Forum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #9 March 1, 2003 QuoteI've heard their customer is crappy, but what other "issues" have you found with Z1's? The visor is always popping open in freefall. Slam close, pop open. Rinse, repeat. The lens is always separating from the frame, no matter what kind of glue I try, it only lasts a month, usually. The liner is always separating from the shell. Again, no matter what kind of glue I try, it never lasts. The paint is peeling off. Not chipping off, not scratching off, but peeling off. It first started near the bottom of the helmet, near the neck, and has spread up. Other people haven't had the problems I've had, or had problems to the same degree. I imagine Parasport probably fixed some or many of these bugs, but the frustrations I went through trying simply to get the latch to the visor replaced taught me a thing or two about what customer service is NOT supposed to be. There are so many good companies in this industry that take care of their customers, they're the ones that get my business. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #10 March 1, 2003 No issues with my Z1. I've even replaced the shield after a year and a half. You'll get good ones and bad ones, but I also believe you must take care of your equipment. People that didn't like the Z1 seem to gravitate towards the Oxygen A3. But then I hear about some of the issues they have with them, but they stick to them. It's all a matter of preference, durability and style. The Z1 fits all my needs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keskeie 0 #11 March 1, 2003 That's how I feel. I know I've heard they have crappy customer service, but I've never had to think about dealing with them, my Z1 has been so good. I think 2 or 3 times I've jumped out with my visor open and when I realised, "Hey, it's a little breezy...oh crap, my visor!" and reach up and it's there, just waiting for me. Not exactly like some full face helmet shields I know have been ripped off during a dive while it was already closed. Not to mention the fact that I can open my visor, easily, with one hand, to keep it from fogging up (and keep the rest of my face warm) on those cold January days..... Of course, this is just MY experience.....We were never feeling bored because we were never being boring. -Zelda Fitzgerald Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #12 March 1, 2003 I agree... the Z1 is a good helmet, but it definitely has quality control issues. I've had no major problems with mine (none of the problems AndyMan mentioned), but then again I don't jump nearly as often. I was just surprised at the overall quality. It looks somewhat slapped together. Not really noticeable from the outside except for a very small amount of roughness in the paint job in some spots. But some of it is really just ugly, like the way the velcro that holds the liner on is put on. I attached a couple pictures. You can see the velco just sticks right up with a whole bunch of the sticky side exposed. You can't see it when the visor is closed, but it's really obvious when it's open. That just seems inexcusable to me. These things are hand made I would assume. Could they not have placed the velcro just a little more carefully? The other thing I noticed when I got it, which I already fixed, was a few threads hanging out the mouth openings. It's as if they're made by robots and shipped out with no inspection. But I really do like it and would honestly recommend the Z1, even with its flaws. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #13 March 1, 2003 Quote Not to mention the fact that I can open my visor, easily, with one hand, to keep it from fogging up (and keep the rest of my face warm) on those cold January days..... and don't ferget them cold February days, too! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #14 March 1, 2003 My velcro is like that too, we just got after it with a pair of scissors. The biggest issues I have with my Z1 is it whistles so loudly in freefall it drive me nuts. I jumped one before and it was fine so i know it's mine, plus no one else who got one from the same batch has complained. Anyway we are about to find out how bad their customer service is cause it's bad when your open face is quieter than your full face. Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #15 March 3, 2003 Weird. Mine definitely doesn't whistle. Keeps things nice and quiet. I was shocked on my last jump when I was doing a 2 way night jump and the other guy yelled something to me and I actually heard him... in freefall. Never had that happen before. Sure couldn't yell back though. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RSG 0 #16 March 4, 2003 Can I have a Cmera side mounted on my Z1?_________________________________________ R S G = Ready Set Goooooooooo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeanJeanie 0 #17 March 4, 2003 What the hell is that helmet any hew........................ I work here at Bonehead I i can't figure it out. Did you get it from us? Or a dealer. The only full-faced helmets (non-camera) have never been discontinued. Unless it is the "SKULL" that is older than me........ What's it look like? Yes, since you are a 'mouth breather' you can drill a few holes in the mouth and punch a hole in the liner foam......... Help me help you, Jeanie M Portillo 909-943-1166 Voice 909-943-3316 fax www.boneheadcomposites.com ~~~~~~~~~~~ You have to be the change you want to see in the world. Mahatma Ghandi ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly~~MLK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taz9420 0 #18 March 8, 2003 Jumped with it the last two days. Loved it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
