BluDvn222 0 #1 February 6, 2003 Hey everybody! I think I am going to get a freefly handle on my new Wings. One thing that seems strange to me is calling it a freefly handle. I realize that premature deployment is more critical of an issue in freefly, but would this be any less helpful for formation skydiving. I mean seriously, please let me know if you can think of any reason why this type of handle would be problematic in any other skydiving disciplines. Scott "How do you like my groin to your foot style?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 February 6, 2003 Problematic? Hell no, this thing is super secure, protects your bridle/boc opening and is easy to deploy. Its what I have on my rig and I love it (I can actually pick up the bottom of my rig with it). As to why its called a FF handle, I think thats simply because those are the ppl who were wanting somthing like that, but didn't want to go to a PUD.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #3 February 6, 2003 I also have one on my Wings container and have had no trouble whatsoever finding it come pull time. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #4 February 6, 2003 dude, if ya are thinking about getting the freefly pud, ya mine as well go for the real thing, get pull out. but to answere you question, there are no problems. i used to use that system before i changed over to pull out. later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmcvey 0 #5 February 6, 2003 Yes, its definately a great option weather you FF or not. Theres no velcro and like Aggie said, its bomb proof. Ive also seen hackey sacks wobbling around in sit jumps, which could start to work the pilotchute out, which is another problem it solves. When i got mine it was a weird feel at first, being used to a hackey, but after practicing on the ground its actually ALOT easier to get a good hold of. IMO the best of bits of pull-out & throwaway systems in one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloud9 0 #6 February 6, 2003 Well I ordered my Wings with one and put about 50 jumps on it. I have had a previous shoulder surgery. Although its in the same area it was much harder for me to get hold of and pull the FF handle. I started dipping my shoulder and then started having deployment problems. (line twist) It also was coming loose about half the time, which is not a real problem then its just like a funny shaped hackey. So I went back to a hackey and have been very happy ever since. I think its a good option but not for everyone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #7 February 7, 2003 OK dumbass time, whats a freefly handle? I have seen Hackey handles, Monkeyfist handles and little orange tubes handles. whats a freefly lok like?? You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #8 February 7, 2003 I personaly dont think a hackey is any more prone to premature openings than the freefly handle. I though have a freefly handle on my wings. reason? because I like how it feels in my hand when I go to throw it...for some reason a hackey handle to me just feel's weird...maybe this is because I was on crappy rental gear for so long with the plastic handle which is similar to the freefly handle...who knows... marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #9 February 7, 2003 Quote OK dumbass time, whats a freefly handle? I have seen Hackey handles, Monkeyfist handles and little orange tubes handles. whats a freefly lok like?? Have you seen a PUD? The freefly handle is using a BOC but with a PUD like handle. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #10 February 7, 2003 ummm whats a PUD is it the little orange hard plastic tube thingy?You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #11 February 7, 2003 Quoteummm whats a PUD is it the little orange hard plastic tube thingy? A PUD is a different kind of deployment system where the pilot chute and the bridel is packed into the container. The BOC stands for the "bottom of container" where the pilot chute and part of the bridel is pack in the pouch underneath the container. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #12 February 7, 2003 ok so how is the pin released on a PUD, where is the handle and how is it routed?? or show me a picture I'm a visual kinda guy, piccies are better You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #13 February 7, 2003 I've never jumped a PUD nor can I quickly find pictures. But here's a DZ thread talking about the PUD versus BOC. http://www.dropzone.com/forum/Skydiving_C1/Safety_and_Training_F2/PUD_vs._PULLOUT_P1491/ Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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BMFin 0 #15 February 7, 2003 Quote One thing that seems strange to me is calling it a freefly handle. I realize that premature deployment is more critical of an issue in freefly, but would this be any less helpful for formation skydiving. Scott Good question... I would guess that the name "freefly handle" sells better than some other not so sexy name. Some of us like to drive sports cars also even if we dont drive them in the track. Sure you can use the freefly handle also if you are falling in the opening position all the way Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #16 February 7, 2003 QuoteA PUD is a different kind of deployment system where the pilot chute and the bridel is packed into the container. a PUD is just the deployment handle....a POD(Pull Out Deployment) is another type of systme....I have a PUD on my BOC.... Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #17 February 7, 2003 Quote Quote A PUD is a different kind of deployment system where the pilot chute and the bridel is packed into the container. a PUD is just the deployment handle....a POD(Pull Out Deployment) is another type of systme....I have a PUD on my BOC.... I stand corrected, I meant POD, but said PUD instead. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #18 February 7, 2003 Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #19 February 7, 2003 Is the Pud atached like a hacky?If so,how does it effect the pc?the pud are bigger,rigth? If the pud is single atached i will belive it easy could entangle whit the bridel. I have never seen a pud used as a BOC thats why im asking. I have seen it at POD,but i dont like that system either. Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #20 February 7, 2003 Yes....mine is single attached...this is how Sunrise rigging makes there freefly handle for the BOC...it is rock solid though..never have I had any problems with it once I finaly figured out the best way to pack it.... Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #21 February 7, 2003 read this.While it were a Hacky,i still belive that a pud dont make it better as long as its single atached. It migth be better to sew it on the top of the pc,so the bridel cant get antangled,then i belive it would be a better system http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=244302;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JGarcia 0 #22 February 7, 2003 I was thinking about getting one on my new wings, but then decided against it. Why? Quoteand have had no trouble whatsoever finding it come pull time I fly a Skyflyer Bird-Man suit and at pull time, the wings routinely cover the hackey. It's interesting enough getting to the hackey, let alone something that would be a much profile. Cheers, --JairoLow Profile, snag free helmet mount for your Sony X3000 action cam! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyz 0 #23 February 7, 2003 this is a pic of the Mirage G3 FF handle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #24 February 7, 2003 Heres a (really bad) pic of the Wings FF handle. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Staso 0 #25 February 12, 2003 QuoteHeres a (really bad) pic of the Wings FF handle. why does is stick out so much ? and the same on the previous picture post. i have odyssey and the handle lays flat on the bottom of container. it seems that this way it would be more secure. i plan to go even further to secure it - i wanna attach velcro on the flat piece of the handle and BOC, right on the edge of the pouch. not that i think that it's not secure enough, i'm just afraid that premature deployment in speed skydiving mostly is fatal. stan. -- it's not about defying gravity; it's how hard you can abuse it. speed skydiving it is ... Speed Skydiving Forum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites