Westie 0 #1 May 12, 2005 I was wondering if some one could explain to me what a paddle turn is. I allready have some idea, but have asked around and have had alot of different answers... Thanks. 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #2 May 13, 2005 I wish someone would answer I want to know too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DrewGPM 0 #3 May 13, 2005 sorry, i'm not familiar with that term...apparently nobody else know it either. Can you describe it at all? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BoostedXT 0 #4 May 13, 2005 Thats when you stick your paddle in the water on the side of the kayak you want to turn...then slide it in and out while applying pressure. It turns the boat faster than using your hands...Sorry... thats all I got. joeFor long as you live and high you fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all that you touch and all that you see is all your life will ever be. Pedro Offers you his Protection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites elightle 8 #5 May 14, 2005 It might be used in Style turns, I don't know. Whatever it is, it doesn't sound like something RW jumpers should use - like the old "hand track" they taught jumpers in the old days - useless. Blues! Ed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 7 #6 May 15, 2005 QuoteI don't know. Whatever it is, it doesn't sound like something RW jumpers should use Or he is just not explaining it well enough....Do you use your knees to turn? If so, what are you doing with them? You are using your booties as "paddles" Quotethe old "hand track" they taught jumpers in the old days - useless I used a hand track today...I would not say useless."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Westie 0 #7 May 16, 2005 I got the impression its when instead of dipping and elbow, you use the forarm and the hand combined with a knee turn to create a inplace turn? It seems Im not the only one who is a little sceptical about this?! 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DrewGPM 0 #8 May 16, 2005 What makes you skeptical about the turn you decribed? I use the forearm and leg technique for my turns. It is fast, easy to control, stops on a dime and has produced my best center turns. I'm a pretty big guy, so i fly very flat, almost in a de-arch position. Dropping the shoulder always me sink out of formations. So i learned the forearm technique and I don't sink during a turn anymore. I teach the technique to everyone that I see sinking out of formations when duringa turn. Never heard it referred to as a paddle turn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 7 #9 May 16, 2005 QuoteI got the impression its when instead of dipping and elbow, you use the forarm and the hand combined with a knee turn to create a inplace turn? It seems Im not the only one who is a little sceptical about this?! Ignore the legs for a second. Lets say you are flying the mantis. Your arms will be like this ( /\ ) OK they will actually be at 45 degrees relative to the ground, but you get the idea. If you are turning left you can leave your left arm where it is and move the right lifting the elbow up while moving the hand down so that the center of rotation on your arm is in the middle of your forearm. You then get this ( // ). If both your left arm and right arm are both at 45 degrees like that, it is the most input you can put in...(well there is chest as well but we are just talking arms.) Anything less than 45 degrees and you are not spilling the most amount of air...Anything more than 45 degrees and you are spilling too much air."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
DrewGPM 0 #3 May 13, 2005 sorry, i'm not familiar with that term...apparently nobody else know it either. Can you describe it at all? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoostedXT 0 #4 May 13, 2005 Thats when you stick your paddle in the water on the side of the kayak you want to turn...then slide it in and out while applying pressure. It turns the boat faster than using your hands...Sorry... thats all I got. joeFor long as you live and high you fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all that you touch and all that you see is all your life will ever be. Pedro Offers you his Protection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elightle 8 #5 May 14, 2005 It might be used in Style turns, I don't know. Whatever it is, it doesn't sound like something RW jumpers should use - like the old "hand track" they taught jumpers in the old days - useless. Blues! Ed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #6 May 15, 2005 QuoteI don't know. Whatever it is, it doesn't sound like something RW jumpers should use Or he is just not explaining it well enough....Do you use your knees to turn? If so, what are you doing with them? You are using your booties as "paddles" Quotethe old "hand track" they taught jumpers in the old days - useless I used a hand track today...I would not say useless."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Westie 0 #7 May 16, 2005 I got the impression its when instead of dipping and elbow, you use the forarm and the hand combined with a knee turn to create a inplace turn? It seems Im not the only one who is a little sceptical about this?! 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewGPM 0 #8 May 16, 2005 What makes you skeptical about the turn you decribed? I use the forearm and leg technique for my turns. It is fast, easy to control, stops on a dime and has produced my best center turns. I'm a pretty big guy, so i fly very flat, almost in a de-arch position. Dropping the shoulder always me sink out of formations. So i learned the forearm technique and I don't sink during a turn anymore. I teach the technique to everyone that I see sinking out of formations when duringa turn. Never heard it referred to as a paddle turn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 7 #9 May 16, 2005 QuoteI got the impression its when instead of dipping and elbow, you use the forarm and the hand combined with a knee turn to create a inplace turn? It seems Im not the only one who is a little sceptical about this?! Ignore the legs for a second. Lets say you are flying the mantis. Your arms will be like this ( /\ ) OK they will actually be at 45 degrees relative to the ground, but you get the idea. If you are turning left you can leave your left arm where it is and move the right lifting the elbow up while moving the hand down so that the center of rotation on your arm is in the middle of your forearm. You then get this ( // ). If both your left arm and right arm are both at 45 degrees like that, it is the most input you can put in...(well there is chest as well but we are just talking arms.) Anything less than 45 degrees and you are not spilling the most amount of air...Anything more than 45 degrees and you are spilling too much air."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
