skydiverek 54 #1 January 8, 2012 Are there snaps on new Velocities (so that you can snap/connect the slider to the canopy)? I was told there are four plastic snaps on the Velocity slider now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #2 January 8, 2012 On the Competition Velocity, yes. I don't know if the regular ones now have them tooPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psychonaut 0 #3 January 9, 2012 The last new velo someone picked up at my dz had them, and I'm pretty sure it's not a comp. Can't be 100% sure though.Stay high pull low Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SRI85 0 #4 January 9, 2012 I know someone who had just bought 2 new Velos. They both have snaps on them. Non comp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 54 #5 January 9, 2012 And what is the reason for this (to prevent unwanted slider movement during packing and line stretch?), and why only on Velos? (if this is the case)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #6 January 9, 2012 can anybody post pictures of that ? I have never jumped a Velo or seen them snaps. also could someone give explanations on the use and the reason for these snaps.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #7 January 9, 2012 Quotealso could someone give explanations on the use and the reason for these snaps There are plasic snaps on the bottom skin of the canopy and also on the four corners of the slider. During packing, with the slider all the way up and quartered, the snaps line-up and snapping it into place just helps to hold it in position. As to why, and why only on the Velos, I have no 'official' info, and haven't even 'heard' anyting, but I have a guess. My guess is two-fold, for starters, in case you didn't know, Velos have fairly large sliders in comparison to the size of the canopy, and that's because they would hammer open with a smaller slider. So in order to prevent them from hammering open (even occasionally), they snap the slider in palce. My other guess is that it has something to do with the nature of an 'uncontrolled' opening on a highly loaded, high performance canopy. A high WL and HP canopy will 'magnify' any problems during the opening, and a spinner/mal on a little Velo can be a big deal, so the snaps are other layer of 'protection' from that. Back to confirmed, PD approved news (at least as of last year) you can have snaps added to a Velo that was built without them. I was offered snaps during a reline this time last year, I declined, but the offer was there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #8 January 9, 2012 they don't do anything. they mess up my pack job.Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamT 0 #9 January 9, 2012 They are kind of like a paint by numbers set. Just in case you forget where your slider is supposed to go they are there to remind you . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichLees 0 #10 January 9, 2012 they're great on the VC and I want them on my regular Velo at next lineset Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #11 January 10, 2012 My non comp-velo came with them last June. They did nothing to prevent the hard opening that caused a disk injury in my neck. Yet more packing 'voodoo', if you ask me. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #12 January 11, 2012 snaps makes it harder to quarter the slider and stay quartered. if you want a soft opening get a bigger slider.Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt3sa 0 #13 January 12, 2012 I had them installed on mine. One of them broke within the first few jumps and the cost to ship it back isn't worth it. I didn't notice any differences in anything other than an extra step for packing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #14 January 12, 2012 it is sooo funny to see someone go, ooohh the snaps makes it open so much nicer. okay, obviously placebo works for ya.Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #15 January 12, 2012 Actually, it does help people who don't pack carefully enough to keep their slider in place - and you'd be surprised how many of those there are. So, maybe it DOES work for them Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #16 January 12, 2012 Quote Actually, it does help people who don't pack carefully enough to keep their slider in place - and you'd be surprised how many of those there are. So, maybe it DOES work for them So it works for you, then... --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 369 #17 January 12, 2012 Quote Actually, it does help people who don't pack carefully enough to keep their slider in place - and you'd be surprised how many of those there are. So, maybe it DOES work for them I think Ian's talking about me. King of the trash pack, but still never packed my own mal.I guess I should be glad my new 103 has snaps.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #18 January 12, 2012 Quote I guess I should be glad my new 103 has snaps. i read this as : I should be glad mine has 103 snaps scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 369 #19 January 12, 2012 Quote Quote I guess I should be glad my new 103 has snaps. i read this as : I should be glad mine has 103 snaps Sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiivvveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllll.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
angryelf 0 #20 January 13, 2012 When I started demoing Velos last summer I got a demo (Standard Velo 111) from PD that had the snaps. I used them on some jumps, didn't on others. Didn't notice any difference. I wound up buying a 103, have an RDS slider for it. Snaps on slider, not on canopy. I talked to PD, they told me the snaps were developed for the Comp Velo and that they had started putting them on all the Velos now. As a rigger I suspect they started this due to the extra weight/stiffness of the RDS (cutaway cables in the lead and trail edges) slider. In my experience (30 plus jumps with the Velo 103/RDS setup) it is (somewhat) harder to control the silder in the packjob because it doesn't like to lay flat inside the canopy. I have had one hard opening out of all of them, I know it was because of lacking slider control. The easy answer is taking care in packing, the snaps don't contribute a lot in my opinion. PD knows a hell of a lot more about Velo's than I do, though-so whatever... -Harry"Sometimes you eat the bar, and well-sometimes the bar eats you..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d100965 0 #21 January 13, 2012 If you used the Lookma RDS instead of the one PD "forces" you to have (when you buy a comp VC), then you wouldn't have any of them problems to begin with, thus no need for snaps. Plus you'd be able to remove it quicker under canopy due to it having only 1 handle in the middle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichLees 0 #22 January 13, 2012 my LookMa has two handles :-( but I find it easier to put back on than the PD one. and I probably won't put snaps on at re-lining because I can be bothered with getting snaps on the LookMa or with getting a PD slider Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markovwgti 0 #23 January 13, 2012 From my experience the snaps have made the canopy take much longer to open on a regular velo. I didnt like it and stopped using it! But on the other hand on my Comp Velo i do use them all the time! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d100965 0 #24 January 14, 2012 Shouldn't have bought the 2 handled removeable/collapsible version. Over-engineered Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 54 #25 February 27, 2012 Magnets can be used on slider, too: http://images2.freshpatents.com/pdf/US20080308680A1.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites