cobaltdan 0 #1 November 27, 2007 QuoteNot to get too off topic here, but when my husband ordered a brand new 135 Cobalt and received a Radical and I called you about it, are you saying you gave me innaccurate info? No, the information was accurate for the canopy supplied to your husband. Atair Europe has since further developed the canopy for higher performance based on customer requests.Daniel Preston <><> atairaerodynamics.com (sport) atairaerospace.com (military) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nicolesheridan 0 #2 November 27, 2007 He is currently selling that canopy. Just to verify....it is accurate to tell any prospective buyer that his Radical (manufactured in 2006) is the same as the Cobalt? Thank you for clarifying and I'm glad that I can point anyone who is unsure to your post. __________________________________________________"People often say that this or that person has not yet found himself. But, the self is not something that one finds. It is something that one creates"- Thomas Szasz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ianmdrennan 2 #3 November 27, 2007 Split this into it's own thread so the differences, if any, can be discussed here. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites phoenixlpr 0 #4 November 27, 2007 I was told that Cobalt not in production anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cobaltdan 0 #5 November 28, 2007 Atair Aerodynamics manufacturers the cobalt, competition cobalt, Onyx and X-1 canopies. What you were told was probably misconstrued from a statement that production of these canopies was shifted from Europe to the US... Nothing has been discontinued and sales has been steadily rising for years.Daniel Preston <><> atairaerodynamics.com (sport) atairaerospace.com (military) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dploi 0 #6 November 28, 2007 QuoteAtair Aerodynamics manufacturers the... OnyxStill? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JanuszPS 0 #7 November 30, 2007 Nicole, Why want you go there: http://www.basetroll.com/products.html and ask yourself giving the serial number and other relevant information? Later you can post the answer. Stane speaks English. I think that Radical is only made in Europe. Regards JanuszPSBack to Poland... back home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkymonkeyONE 3 #8 December 1, 2007 the Radical is only made by the "real" Atair: Stane and Magdelena. It's positively not the same canopy as the Impulse/Space/Alpha/Cobalt. The only two I have ever seen are routinely jumped by James Boole and Robi Pecnic of Phoenix Fly (the wingsuit company). Both of those guys get fantastic openings in their wingsuits and swoop the piss out of their canopies. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dharma1976 0 #9 December 1, 2007 Quotethe Radical is only made by the "real" Atair: Stane and Magdelena. It's positively not the same canopy as the Impulse/Space/Alpha/Cobalt. The only two I have ever seen are routinely jumped by James Boole and Robi Pecnic of Phoenix Fly (the wingsuit company). Both of those guys get fantastic openings in their wingsuits and swoop the piss out of their canopies. Chuck hmmm do they have a demo program??? I have been hearing of this radical lately a lot Davehttp://www.skyjunky.com CSpenceFLY - I can't believe the number of people willing to bet their life on someone else doing the right thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydivejunky 0 #10 December 3, 2007 Actually I've jumped the radical from atair a few times .. from the guys that make the cobalt. Fun canopy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Pendragon 1 #11 December 3, 2007 From what I remember being told, the Radical is elliptical at the front, but only tapered at the back, to give better heading performance. Can't remember anything else. James always got nice swoops out of it; I think he was jumping a 99, so nicely loading it. -- BASE #1182 Muff #3573 PFI #52; UK WSI #13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IMGR2 0 #12 December 4, 2007 Quote the Radical is only made by the "real" Atair: Stane and Magdelena. It's positively not the same canopy as the Impulse/Space/Alpha/Cobalt. The only two I have ever seen are routinely jumped by James Boole and Robi Pecnic of Phoenix Fly (the wingsuit company). Both of those guys get fantastic openings in their wingsuits and swoop the piss out of their canopies. Chuck I have one! And I actually won a swoop meet with it last year. heehee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IMGR2 0 #13 December 4, 2007 Quote Actually I've jumped the radical from atair a few times .. from the guys that make the cobalt. Fun canopy! Wow! Your avatar looks alot like my new canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
nicolesheridan 0 #2 November 27, 2007 He is currently selling that canopy. Just to verify....it is accurate to tell any prospective buyer that his Radical (manufactured in 2006) is the same as the Cobalt? Thank you for clarifying and I'm glad that I can point anyone who is unsure to your post. __________________________________________________"People often say that this or that person has not yet found himself. But, the self is not something that one finds. It is something that one creates"- Thomas Szasz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #3 November 27, 2007 Split this into it's own thread so the differences, if any, can be discussed here. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #4 November 27, 2007 I was told that Cobalt not in production anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaltdan 0 #5 November 28, 2007 Atair Aerodynamics manufacturers the cobalt, competition cobalt, Onyx and X-1 canopies. What you were told was probably misconstrued from a statement that production of these canopies was shifted from Europe to the US... Nothing has been discontinued and sales has been steadily rising for years.Daniel Preston <><> atairaerodynamics.com (sport) atairaerospace.com (military) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dploi 0 #6 November 28, 2007 QuoteAtair Aerodynamics manufacturers the... OnyxStill? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JanuszPS 0 #7 November 30, 2007 Nicole, Why want you go there: http://www.basetroll.com/products.html and ask yourself giving the serial number and other relevant information? Later you can post the answer. Stane speaks English. I think that Radical is only made in Europe. Regards JanuszPSBack to Poland... back home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #8 December 1, 2007 the Radical is only made by the "real" Atair: Stane and Magdelena. It's positively not the same canopy as the Impulse/Space/Alpha/Cobalt. The only two I have ever seen are routinely jumped by James Boole and Robi Pecnic of Phoenix Fly (the wingsuit company). Both of those guys get fantastic openings in their wingsuits and swoop the piss out of their canopies. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dharma1976 0 #9 December 1, 2007 Quotethe Radical is only made by the "real" Atair: Stane and Magdelena. It's positively not the same canopy as the Impulse/Space/Alpha/Cobalt. The only two I have ever seen are routinely jumped by James Boole and Robi Pecnic of Phoenix Fly (the wingsuit company). Both of those guys get fantastic openings in their wingsuits and swoop the piss out of their canopies. Chuck hmmm do they have a demo program??? I have been hearing of this radical lately a lot Davehttp://www.skyjunky.com CSpenceFLY - I can't believe the number of people willing to bet their life on someone else doing the right thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivejunky 0 #10 December 3, 2007 Actually I've jumped the radical from atair a few times .. from the guys that make the cobalt. Fun canopy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pendragon 1 #11 December 3, 2007 From what I remember being told, the Radical is elliptical at the front, but only tapered at the back, to give better heading performance. Can't remember anything else. James always got nice swoops out of it; I think he was jumping a 99, so nicely loading it. -- BASE #1182 Muff #3573 PFI #52; UK WSI #13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMGR2 0 #12 December 4, 2007 Quote the Radical is only made by the "real" Atair: Stane and Magdelena. It's positively not the same canopy as the Impulse/Space/Alpha/Cobalt. The only two I have ever seen are routinely jumped by James Boole and Robi Pecnic of Phoenix Fly (the wingsuit company). Both of those guys get fantastic openings in their wingsuits and swoop the piss out of their canopies. Chuck I have one! And I actually won a swoop meet with it last year. heehee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMGR2 0 #13 December 4, 2007 Quote Actually I've jumped the radical from atair a few times .. from the guys that make the cobalt. Fun canopy! Wow! Your avatar looks alot like my new canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
