sysop 0 #1 October 17, 2007 SpeedFlying is very young kind of sport. It has only 3 years old. Although many people say that the start from the slope is "reinvent the wheel", but we know indeed, that this is not invention, but evolution inside of two kinds of sport: paragliding and skydiving sport. The main point of this sport is to glide on the wing along the slope, passing trough the air gates that have height only 1.5 meters on the speed 100 km/h on the relief with the different angle of the slope. On this kind of sport we have our own downhill, slalom, cross-country and freeride. In this moment this sport is contained about two hundred sportsmen and students. Manufacturers are already about ten. Speedflying has another raisin - you can fly the whole of the year. On summer the pilots can fly, pushing away from foot. On winter pilots flies with skis, snowboards and ski-boards. During two years AEROS company has kept a close watch on the tendency of development this new kind of sport. Today we are ready to propose you a special wing for this new and rapid upcoming sport and the kind of active rest. AEROS Ballistic - More info about wing and order here: http://ballistic.speedflying.ru -------- Ballistic 115 already in California. It will accessible for test-drive at 20-21 October in Lake Isabella, during GL/SpeedFlying summit. Ask Alex Dvoryn! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pendragon 1 #2 October 17, 2007 Is this the same Aeros from the Ukraine that's being making hang gliders for years? Those guys made some good stuff.-- BASE #1182 Muff #3573 PFI #52; UK WSI #13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packing_jarrett 0 #3 October 18, 2007 That looks like a nice wing. I'm curious how it would compare to a nano. I'd imagine that the x-brace design would make it heavier to get off the ground.Na' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 254 #4 October 18, 2007 Wing loading seems low for a cross brace. Is this aimed at 1000 jump plus ability pilots like skydiving cross braces or does the wing loading work differently for GL??Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sysop 0 #5 October 18, 2007 QuoteIs this the same Aeros from the Ukraine that's being making hang gliders for years? Yep! It's paragliding department of AEROS company. Min wingload 1.4 we set for normal collapse resistant, but i'm flying with 1.1 in good aerology conditions sometime. 1.6 - safe wingload for easy launch in calm weather. I work with 1.8-2.0 wingload usualy for bladerunning. I attach noise photo. 85 ft. QuoteI'd imagine that the x-brace design would make it heavier to get off the ground. http://www.dropzone.com/videos/Swooping/index.html Here 3 my last movie with Ballistic's and other skydiving canopies. You can see how it inflate and work for launch. BTW: We launched 97 and 145 ft. Ballistic from 3300m ASL with 5-7 mph wind - very easy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #6 October 18, 2007 QuoteIs this the same Aeros from the Ukraine that's being making hang gliders for years? Those guys made some good stuff. Rich, I've got a 105 version of the Ballistic and it's seriously good fun - I'll bring it up to Hib next time I'm in the area if you fancy a look? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathtrap 0 #7 October 22, 2007 I'm just curious....... Do you work for the company? It appears so when you say that "WE are ready to propose you a special wing for this new and rapid upcoming sport and the kind of active rest" Your post looks a lot like advertising for the products. I thought advertising products was forbidden in the forums and I have seen moderators jump in quickly because of that. I'm really surprised they're letting you do it. hmmmm.. I've done a little speed flying myself and the minimal air intake on the nose looks like it would make it pretty difficult to kite up in low winds. just my observations, where are you moderators, I've been jumped on way too many times, not fair! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sysop 0 #8 October 22, 2007 Quote I've done a little speed flying myself and the minimal air intake on the nose looks like it would make it pretty difficult to kite up in low winds. You need to try it in calm. You will be pleased! www.speedflying.ru Mountian Fly School Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #9 October 22, 2007 The post, while close to advertising, isn't breaking any rules (yet) IMO. I don't know if the OP works for the manufacturer, but providing product awareness isn't something I frown on. I'd offer the same respect to PD, Daedalus, Icarus or any other manufacturer who doesn't try and turn this into their personal pimping ground. Now, if it becomes excessive, or if the poster blatently tries to make this a sales post, I'll delete it promptly. In the meantime I have deleted some of the more obvious 'pimping' Blues, Ian Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #10 October 22, 2007 QuoteIn the meantime I have deleted some of the more obvious 'pimping' Which is why I make it my rule to only "Medium Pimp."---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathtrap 0 #11 October 22, 2007 Fair enough.......thanks for your answer, medium pimping.....check. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathtrap 0 #12 October 22, 2007 Sysop, You never did answer though. Do you work for the company or just a raging advocate for their products. Just want to know if I can come to you when I want to try and buy, if you are an official representative for the company. thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sysop 0 #13 October 23, 2007 Yep! I'm testpilot of Aeros Speedgliders and official representative company for speedflying market and competitions.www.speedflying.ru Mountian Fly School Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sysop 0 #14 January 31, 2008 Year in air! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nEXA3sx6Hswww.speedflying.ru Mountian Fly School Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #15 January 31, 2008 Wow! Me likey! Me want one! ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #16 February 2, 2008 QuoteSpeedFlying is very young kind of sport. It has only 3 years old. Although many people say that the start from the slope is "reinvent the wheel", but we know indeed, that this is not invention, but evolution inside of two kinds of sport: paragliding and skydiving sport. The main point of this sport is to glide on the wing along the slope, passing trough the air gates that have height only 1.5 meters on the speed 100 km/h on the relief with the different angle of the slope. On this kind of sport we have our own downhill, slalom, cross-country and freeride. In this moment this sport is contained about two hundred sportsmen and students. Manufacturers are already about ten. Speedflying has another raisin - you can fly the whole of the year. On summer the pilots can fly, pushing away from foot. On winter pilots flies with skis, snowboards and ski-boards. During two years AEROS company has kept a close watch on the tendency of development this new kind of sport. Today we are ready to propose you a special wing for this new and rapid upcoming sport and the kind of active rest. AEROS Ballistic - More info about wing and order here: http://ballistic.speedflying.ru -------- Ballistic 115 already in California. It will accessible for test-drive at 20-21 October in Lake Isabella, during GL/SpeedFlying summit. Ask Alex Dvoryn! what is different between the AEROS Ballistic, and the Daedalus JVX? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sysop 0 #17 February 2, 2008 Quotewhat is different between the AEROS Ballistic, and the Daedalus JVX? Another geometry of profile and span, skin matherial, lines matherial. It's the speedflying/speedriding wing only.www.speedflying.ru Mountian Fly School Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hparrish 0 #18 February 3, 2008 Okay then how similar is it to the Daedelus GLX or GLS then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #19 February 4, 2008 the profile and span are different? do you mean the chord and span? or just the profile and span? what exactly, are the differences? I understand that different materials and lines were used. I guess my question is better stated as this. Is it a COPY of the Daedalus JVX? or did you use the JVX as a guideline, and made some changes? OR, was the JVX not used at all to come up with this design? I know your english is not the best, so no worries! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sysop 0 #20 February 4, 2008 Hi Marks! We use JVX and VX basic geometry as guideline for chord and span, but use our design to aspect ratio. We also set profile when we get guideline between GLX and Velo. It's very similiar to JVX, but only by photos. You can look "how this wing inflate in calm conditions" with semi-close nose: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOwfCfscg1w We use one of the best paragliding matherial for surface: Pocher Sport, and paragliding lines - Technora 1.5mm. I have few wings wich i use during year - it's still in very good conditions.www.speedflying.ru Mountian Fly School Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #21 February 5, 2008 Quote Hi Marks! We use JVX and VX basic geometry as guideline for chord and span, but use our design to aspect ratio. We also set profile when we get guideline between GLX and Velo. It's very similiar to JVX, but only by photos. You can look "how this wing inflate in calm conditions" with semi-close nose: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOwfCfscg1w We use one of the best paragliding matherial for surface: Pocher Sport, and paragliding lines - Technora 1.5mm. I have few wings wich i use during year - it's still in very good conditions. it is my understanding, that chord and span = aspect ratio. so what do you mean by "but use our design to aspect ratio."? Quote We also set profile when we get guideline between GLX and Velo. is the profile thinner or thicker than the JVX? Quote You can look "how this wing inflate in calm conditions" with semi-close nose: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOwfCfscg1w that is quick inflation, I made your link a clickyone other question, what is some of the things that were changed to make this wing a groundlaunch wing? thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sysop 0 #22 February 5, 2008 Quoteit is my understanding, that chord and span = aspect ratio. so what do you mean by "but use our design to aspect ratio."? it's some more wide wing than GLX, our aspect ratio is 2.81 Quoteis the profile thinner or thicker than the JVX? 2.5% thinner than JVX profile and more acute. Quoteone other question, what is some of the things that were changed to make this wing a groundlaunch wing? Ballistic has rigidity on nervures near nose as paraglide. They provide an opportunity to inflate the wing without sticking the nose. It's a matherial of Porcher Marine and usualy use for hanggliding surface.www.speedflying.ru Mountian Fly School Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirill 0 #23 February 7, 2008 Ballistic ski-launch expedition to Mountain Shoria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sxSXosjUbo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfi 0 #24 March 2, 2008 hello boys and girls if you are intressted in canopy groundlaunch??? LOOK AT www.canopygroundlaunch.com have a nice day Wolfi from tyrol (austria) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
