Flexible Pins

[TomAiello 25]

Does anyone have any experience/insight/feedback on using yellow cable (i.e. cutaway cable) to close the container?

I've seen some European freeflyers using this setup, ostensibly because it makes a premature container opening less likely. I've also seen some Russian BASE rigs that use it (so far, so good, but Russia is one crazy country).

Any thoughts?

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[AggieDave 6]

Tom, we had a pretty good discussion about this about 6-9 months ago, the pros/cons were fairly well discussed, although I can't remember all of them, I just remember coming to the conclusion that I was going to stick with a normal closing pin.

If you do a search you'll probably come up with the thread, I know I posted to it, if it helps your search any.

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[rmcvey 0]

Basically i think it started as alot of european rigs a few years back were crap for freeflying. The racer style main flap was common on a few rigs for most skydivers and when freeflying became common people were finding themselves under canopies
before they wanted, so a few mods were conconcted
to make the more common rigs safer. One was two "walrus teeth" on the main flap which tucked back up/under the bottom flap (like a javelin flap)
One other was the two teflon cables for a pin and bridle covers.

Ive not heard any problems regarding them.
I would be interested to know if there is a difference between the force needed to open the container compared to a conventional curved pin.

[AndyMan 7]

If you search the forums, you'll find some good discussions about this.

If I remember Correctly, Bill Booth finally chimed in and strongly recomended that if you're going to do this, don't use the yellow cuttaway cable, you should use a black teflon cable.

Ah, here it is: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=37598

also, read this: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=113117 - Bill Booth's comments in this thread.

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[weid14 0]

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If you search the forums, you'll find some good discussions about this.

If I remember Correctly, Bill Booth finally chimed in and strongly recomended that if you're going to do this, don't use the yellow cuttaway cable, you should use a black teflon cable.

Ah, here it is: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=37598

also, read this: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=113117 - Bill Booth's comments in this thread.

_Am

FWIW... there's a highly experienced camera flier that jumps the cable type closing system, and uses the black cable. A rigger has been playing with the design a bit to make the cable easier to replace. It is a pretty slick set up.

[indyz 1]

In addition to what everybody else posted, Gary Peek/PCPRG did some reasearch into this: Using a flexible cable closing pin on an experienced skydiver's rig.

[3fLiEr 0]

I use this on my skydiving rig - had no problems except you have to really keep an eye on the closing loop - some loops were lasting me less than 10 jumps.

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[QuickDraw 0]

What about using a elongated ring (like a paper-clip) through the gromet, would that help ?

Just a thought.....

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[bobsoutar 0]

I think that cables are only used on a pullout deployment system. Presumably you could use a longer straight pin though.