SEREJumper 1 #1 October 14, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_-wbaY14GI Skip to 4:40 unless you want to see a lot of boring freefall. Anything unusual? Sure took his canopy a while to settle down...huh.We're not fucking flying airplanes are we, no we're flying a glorified kite with no power and it should be flown like one! - Stratostar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-SK- 0 #2 October 14, 2012 Human-assisted PC in tow FTW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEREJumper 1 #3 October 14, 2012 Thats the easy one (gonna get those last 4-5 seconds of free fall! ). Theres more, keep looking.. We're not fucking flying airplanes are we, no we're flying a glorified kite with no power and it should be flown like one! - Stratostar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #4 October 14, 2012 blocked in my countryYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-SK- 0 #6 October 14, 2012 Perhaps not the best way to stow the brakes? (image attached) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strife 0 #7 October 14, 2012 Quoteblocked in my country this works around it for me http://www.yt.g00p.com/watch?v=k_-wbaY14GI http://u2bp.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazyboy 0 #8 October 14, 2012 Container is open before he releases his pc...If your parachute fails to open, remember you have the rest of your live to fix it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #9 October 14, 2012 Ya don't want to be hanging on to them pilot chutes!Was he afraid he wasn't going to find it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #10 October 15, 2012 Seems like he's having an awful hard time with the potato chipping and wearing a hand camera..."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEREJumper 1 #11 October 15, 2012 Awesome handcam potato chipping...Check Holding on to your PC for 4+ seconds...Check Causing your container to come open while holding you PC...Check Either not stowing you brake properly, or having a brake release on opening...Check But it's a HALO!We're not fucking flying airplanes are we, no we're flying a glorified kite with no power and it should be flown like one! - Stratostar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #12 October 15, 2012 QuoteEither not stowing you brake properly, or having a brake release on opening...Check The brake was stowed. You can see that the cats eye is still in the vicinity of the guide ring, and that would not be down there if the canopy was packed with the brake unstowed. That said, look at the other side, there's a considerable loop of excess brake line, and it's been left to swing free in the breeze. I would call that a mistake. Hanging on the PC defies explanation. How or why the jumper could have thought this was a good idea in any respect is beyond me. I'm willing to accept that he was unaware that his container was opened when he pulled the PC, but that still leaves he problem of the bridle blowing around in the wind the whole time he's holding the PC. Have a look down below his cutaway handle. The text below the video reveals that for some reason he's wearing some sort of WWII uniform for the jump. and you can clearly see that the shirt has worked it's way out from under the pants and harness, and is on it's way toward coming out and blowing up over his cutaway handle. Combine that with the O2 bottle and hose, and the sloppy packing/brake setting, and you have one hell of a HALO jump on your hands. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #13 October 15, 2012 QuoteAwesome handcam potato chipping...Check Holding on to your PC for 4+ seconds...Check Causing your container to come open while holding you PC...Check Either not stowing you brake properly, or having a brake release on opening...Check But it's a HALO! Don't forget the whole VFR cloud clearance requirements."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #14 October 15, 2012 QuoteHanging on the PC defies explanation. How or why the jumper could have thought this was a good idea in any respect is beyond me. I'm willing to accept that he was unaware that his container was opened when he pulled the PC, but that still leaves he problem of the bridle blowing around in the wind the whole time he's holding the PC. I think there is a very good chance that he didn't realize he was holding on to the PC. Thick enough gloves, hackey between fingers... it would be easy to think you threw it when you're still holding it. ETA: Picture attached."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 261 #15 October 15, 2012 QuoteI think there is a very good chance that he didn't realize he was holding on to the PC. It does sort of look like that. Still, ya gotta be a bit clueless and/or have a crappy toss technique and/or be hypoxic for that. My first impression was that it looks like he hadn't jumped since about 1978... pull out that newfangled pilot chute and wave off with it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
excaza 1 #16 October 15, 2012 I would express some sort of concern that my chute hadn't started deploying after 5 seconds and at least looked over at my hand. That he didn't do either makes me think that it was intentional. Bizarre either way... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #17 October 15, 2012 QuoteI think there is a very good chance that he didn't realize he was holding on to the PC. Thick enough gloves, hackey between fingers... it would be easy to think you threw it when you're still holding it. I'm going to disagree with that idea. If you look, his hand is clearly clenched in a fist holding the PC and then is intentionally released when the PC departs. There is no head movement in concert with that action, to show that he might have seen his PC was still in his hand. It looks to me like he held it until he was going into the cloud (for some odd reason). I'd like to add another 'squawk' to the video review, that being what appears to be loose excess legstrap blowing around in between his legs. Nothing but more sloppy airmanship on his part. On the upside, he managed to make sure his camera was turned on. Someone mentioned the cloud bust, but I'm willing to give him a pass on that. The layer is fairly broken as seen in the video, and if he hit a 'cloud' instead of a 'break' from 29k ft, that's an honest mistake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #18 October 15, 2012 Clothing choice indicates possible hypoxia before he put the rig on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shredex 0 #19 October 15, 2012 It almost looks like they pulled off the risers from the 3 ring system then slid the toggles up the risers then put it back on...rendering the toggles almost useless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #20 October 15, 2012 He's using a pull-out, not a throw out. You see that in SEREJumper's picture above. Hence, he knows when the container opens. AFAIK, techniques for pull-out and throw-out are a little different if only for the reason of making sure the pin actually gets pulled. I agree maybe not to the length of time that this jumper shows.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #21 October 15, 2012 QuoteHe's using a pull-out, not a throw out No sir. If that was a pull-out, he would be holding a pud with the PC trailing behind the pud at the end of a lanyard. Also, all of the pull outs I have jumped have the PC attached to the bridle at the base, not the apex, so once the PC is in the wind it inflates and pulls the pud right out of your hand. He's holding onto a handle attached directly to the apex of the PC, just like a throw out. This explains why he is even able to trail it for so long without the PC inflating and being pulled out of his hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIGGER160 0 #22 October 15, 2012 Thank you Robert, however I doubt Jeff Napier or anyone else for that matter will be calling out Mike on this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Divalent 89 #23 October 16, 2012 QuoteQuoteHe's using a pull-out, not a throw out No sir. If that was a pull-out, ... I think this image shows it is throw out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Polite 0 #24 October 16, 2012 Whether it is a pull out or not it's pretty stupid to intentionally hang on to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #25 October 16, 2012 QuoteHe's using a pull-out, not a throw out. You see that in SEREJumper's picture above. Hence, he knows when the container opens. AFAIK, techniques for pull-out and throw-out are a little different if only for the reason of making sure the pin actually gets pulled. I agree maybe not to the length of time that this jumper shows. Pop, look at this picture closely, you can see the curved pin. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=135750; His O2 mask doesn’t fit. It is riding up over his shin. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
