Bealio 0 #1 November 6, 2015 A co-worker was showing me a picture from his tandem jump. I noticed it was a selfie and asked him about it. He told me that during freefall, he pulled out his phone from his pocket and took a selfie. I thought it was hilarious and wanted to know if this happens a lot now a days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maggyrider 10 #2 November 6, 2015 It's not hilarious or great - this is plain stupid and dangerous. Apart from the distraction added by handling his phone, think of what would have happened to him (or his tandem master) if the phone slipped from his hands. Think of what would have happened if the phone hit somebody on the ground. Getting hit in the face or in your head by a phone at freefall speed? Absolutely hilarious... And to answer your question - things like this tend to happen more and more. I've had numerous discussions about why it's not possible to bring your own phone or camera on a tandem skydive. I've had people show up with meter-long selfie-sticks. I've have had tandem passengers try to smuggle Gopros into the airplane, even though we strictly forbid it. Social media show people a lot of stupid things and as most people are not used to thinking on their own, they try to recreate everything that might generate a few likes and online-attention without considering the possible consequences.Nice words are not always true - and true words are not always nice. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealio 0 #3 November 6, 2015 It is hilarious and great, you're just jealous you didn't think of it first! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 149 #4 November 6, 2015 BealioIt is hilarious and great, you're just jealous you didn't think of it first! Um... no. Is stupid and reckless. JWAlways remember that some clouds are harder than others... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsalnukt 1 #5 November 6, 2015 dumb. The TM should never have let that happen. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #6 November 6, 2015 tsalnuktdumb. The TM should never have let that happen. Yes because we let our students take cellphones on jumps for this exact purpose. More likely the student was a douche nozzle, and despite being told to empty their pockets fully they snuck their phone on to the jump and pulled it out unannounced and unplanned."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chutem 0 #7 November 6, 2015 DougH***dumb. The TM should never have let that happen. Yes because we let our students take cellphones on jumps for this exact purpose. More likely the student was a douche nozzle, and despite being told to empty their pockets fully they snuck their phone on to the jump and pulled it out unannounced and unplanned. Would the pilot be in jeopardy of an enforcement action/lawsuit if the phone was dropped and caused injury/damage? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,329 #8 November 6, 2015 chutem******dumb. The TM should never have let that happen. Yes because we let our students take cellphones on jumps for this exact purpose. More likely the student was a douche nozzle, and despite being told to empty their pockets fully they snuck their phone on to the jump and pulled it out unannounced and unplanned. Would the pilot be in jeopardy of an enforcement action/lawsuit if the phone was dropped and caused injury/damage? "It Depends." (stock answer to just about any legal question, thanks Prof Schaefer) If the DZ has a policy of "empty your pockets, no phones or cameras on the jump", and this "douche nozzle" student violated that policy and snuck the phone on the jump, then probably not."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justme12001 0 #9 November 6, 2015 Like all the others have said...not hilarious or great! And I promise, your friend is not the first to think about or to do it. He's just another asshat that thinks he can do whatever he wants and didn't think about possible consequences. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealio 0 #10 November 7, 2015 He's a coworker, not a friend. I don't have friends because I laugh at skydive selfie pictures and think they're great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpsalot-2 2 #11 November 7, 2015 I call Bull Shit. I don't believe it ever happened. There is no way a Tandem instructor would let a student move their arms back toward their pockets ( aka - toward the handles ). Show the picture.Life is short ... jump often. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealio 0 #12 November 8, 2015 I was thinking the same thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pobrause 6 #13 November 8, 2015 As far as my admittedly limited experience with selfis goes, this is a frame grab from an outside video. Also possible is a selfi stick with a wide angle cam mounted but that would connote that the TM was ok with it in the first place. The first one is the most likely which would imply that either you got trolled or we ------------------------------------------------------- To absent friends Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealio 0 #14 November 8, 2015 I think you might be right. It doesn't really look like a phone picture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #15 November 8, 2015 jumpsalot-2I call Bull Shit. I don't believe it ever happened. There is no way a Tandem instructor would let a student move their arms back toward their pockets ( aka - toward the handles ). Show the picture. ........................................................ Students invent stupid stuff every day. They often do stupid stuff faster than instructors can react. They often do stupid stuff that never crossed the instructors' mind. How do you expect an instructor to cancel a stupid move that he has never heard of before? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimjumper 25 #16 November 8, 2015 If you've never had a student surprise you with something stupid I'd think you hadn't been doing tandems very long. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tred 0 #17 November 9, 2015 yea if I move my phone at all during a picture it comes out blurry, I couldn't imagine a good picture at 120 from a phone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justme12001 0 #18 November 9, 2015 Yep, looks like outside video to me or an outside still, but probably a screen grab. It looks to me like the videographer is spinning the tandem pair, hence the "lean to one side" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 615 #19 November 9, 2015 I can. I have. Even allowed a few tandem students to bring one so long as there was a wrist strap. Didn't bother me, distract me, nor them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMFin 0 #20 November 9, 2015 A year ago we did some skydive clashing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9PUsPlqzB8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealio 0 #21 November 10, 2015 I interrogated my coworker at work today. He was trolling me. That bastard! I still would like to know if any instructors have encountered the situation my coworker made up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShotterMG 0 #22 November 10, 2015 It happened to me. Girl took it out during free fall. I thought it was hilarious and impressive. I have also heard of it happening one other time. Obviously not a good idea. But students do the darnedest things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealio 0 #23 November 11, 2015 At least one other person finds it hilarious. We can be friends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #24 November 13, 2015 normiss I can. I have. Even allowed a few tandem students to bring one so long as there was a wrist strap. Didn't bother me, distract me, nor them. we let our passengers take up their own go pros. I know there's a lot of debate on that, but it's usually no big deal. I had one student who had $hit body position on exit trying to get a great selfie, but lesson learned. I'll have 'em grab the harness better next time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 615 #25 November 13, 2015 After one really bad body position student I pretty much fought with to get body position, I generally stopped worrying about the student and just out flew them. Long legs, long arms helped a LOT. I agree that the cameras are typically not an issue. I do prefer outside video as the best product for the jump IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites